Father Kodak wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:32:13 -0800, Paul Allen <"paul dot l dot allen
> at comcast dot net"> wrote:
>
> re
>>> of Elephantiasis in the same timeframe.
>> It wasn't about money, but rather about preventing Microsoft from
>> flooding the market with their proprietary version of Java. Sun
>> won, big time, although it's not clear what that win means for
>> their long-term survival. Java's on what, it's third GUI toolkit?
>> I was just thinking about learning Swing, and now it's out and
>> something else is in. That's a platform without a long-term
>> strategy. :-(
>>
>> Paul Allen
>
> Unfortunately, yes. The problem for Sun has always been that deep
> down Scott McNealy is a hardware guy. That is what gets his interest,
> not software.
>
> On top of all that, it is hard for the Java programs at Sun to
> justify their existence unless they can "monetize" Java.

Java Server Pages, anyone? Java on databases, like Oracle?
>
> And you also see some of the confusion in the strategy about such
> issues as exactly who controls the future of Java.
>
> Now, a whole 'nother story is the confusion regarding Solaris X86, but
> we'll save that one for a different flame war.

Dey doin ok, esp hitching onto the Open Office cattle train.