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Old 01-05-2006, 02:36 AM
Wesley Vogel
 
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Default Re: Defragmenter no longer works

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Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:C3E239C0-C572-4AD3-B54C-1818F00D3AD4@microsoft.com,
egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> Wesley:
>
> I'm happy with the crutch. Thanks for all your help.
>
> One final question: If not Norton, then what?
> --
> Ed
>
>
> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>
>> Well, Ed, this may sound like a crutch, but anytime that you need to
>> defrag, run it in Safe Mode. <shrug> At least it works. ;-)
>>
>> I have absolutely no idea about Speed Disk. I won't have *anything*
>> Norton or McAfee on my machine.
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In news:94EAA858-AC50-4D2C-898A-BEEE484A736A@microsoft.com,
>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
>>> Well, I ran Fefrag in Safe Made and it worked! While I was at it, I
>>> went ahead and defragged my hard drive, which took most of the
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>> Defrag in Windows, though, still does not work.
>>>
>>> As for uninstalling Speed Disk, I recently downloaded Norton SystemWorks
>>> and Firewall and thus don't have a CD from which I could reload Speed
>>> Disk after uninstalling it. But if Speed Disk is blocking Defrag, does
>>> it work the other way too?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ed,
>>>>
>>>> Find your XP CD and try sfc /scannow again.
>>>>
>>>> Start in Safe Mode and see if defrag works.
>>>>
>>>> To start the computer in safe mode
>>>>

>>

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d..._failsafe.mspx
>>>>
>>>> I just reread your first post. Get rid of Norton's Speed Disk. Just a
>>>> guess, but I bet that is what's causing the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Uninstall Norton's Speed Disk, reboot and try running defrag. If it
>>>> works and you really want Norton's Speed Disk, reinstall it, reboot and
>>>> see if Speed Disk and defrag work. You can than judge if Norton's
>>>> Speed Disk was causing any problem.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>>
>>>> Wes
>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>
>>>> In news:5C1FD4E5-47BD-4E71-A7F8-4BBC466627B2@microsoft.com,
>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
>>>>> Wesley:
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, here is the best I can do with your last set of instructions and
>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. When I enter defrag C: I get the usual response--Disk Defragmenter
>>>>> could not start....
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. The scannow sfc was a washout. I kept getting messages that said
>>>>> "Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to
>>>>> the DLL cashe. Insert XP CD now." Unfortunately, I could not find my
>>>>> XP CD after two hours of searching. It's been a while....
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. The Event Viewer showed quite a few errors under Applications and
>>>>> Systems, none under the other category.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. I went to the website with Registry Mechanic, downloaded it, and
>>>>> ran the trial version, which turned up something like 689 errors in
>>>>> the registry. Fixing them all required a purchase. Do you recommend
>>>>> such a purchase? It sells for $29.99, not bad if it works.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Finally, I ran the two regsvr32 files and both succeeded.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm open to further directions from you or any other computer pro such
>>>>> as yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now to bed. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for all your help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happens if you open a command prompt, type
>>>>>> defrag C:
>>>>>> and hit Enter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This will take a while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Open the Event Viewer...
>>>>>> Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK |
>>>>>> Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection
>>>>>> entries
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More info..
>>>>>> scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
>>>>>> http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wes
>>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In news:1B6E74D6-13EF-4160-8046-4A5114E98447@microsoft.com,
>>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
>>>>>>> Back to Wesley this time:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message,
>>>>>>> e.g., volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but
>>>>>>> when I click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response:
>>>>>>> "Disk Defragmenter could not start."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What does this tell you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What happens if you open a command prompt...
>>>>>>>> Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK |
>>>>>>>> Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter?
>>>>>>>> Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error
>>>>>>>> message, what's the message?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What happens if you...
>>>>>>>> Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK
>>>>>>>> Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an
>>>>>>>> error message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what
>>>>>>>> happens if you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wes
>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In news:539B0AC3-4FC9-48B1-A5B8-5D4DDCFFEDAA@microsoft.com,
>>>>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
>>>>>>>>> Marv:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I
>>>>>>>>> thought I ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's
>>>>>>>>> only 69K.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks anyway. Any other ideas?
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Marv" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> egleaves,
>>>>>>>>>> Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe.
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Marv
>>>>>>>>>> Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "egleaves" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and
>>>>>>>>>>> install dfrg.inf.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But Disk Defragmenter still does not work.....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not
>>>>>>>>>>> yet.....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any other suggestions?
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> \WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> %windir%\inf
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right click dfrg.inf and select Install
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;302347
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To display Hidden files and folders...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab
>>>>>>>>>>>> Check:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Display the contents of system folders
>>>>>>>>>>>> Show hidden files and folders
>>>>>>>>>>>> UNCheck:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Click Apply | Click OK
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they
>>>>>>>>>>>> are not typical items.]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wes
>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In news:3A218291-A71D-4AE0-AC2D-6E779CE49713@microsoft.com,
>>>>>>>>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and
>>>>>>>>>>>> pecked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Speed Disk says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please check to see if another application has the drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> locked."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> best responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes in the command prompts as suggested, but still no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> luck. (I was not able to find the windows\inf folder as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested--any suggestions?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virtual Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another
>>>>>>>>>>>>> writer, but still no luck.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people on this issue. My computer badly needs to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> defragmented.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed


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