Hello daar Roland,

Vogel can be Dutch Swedish or German. It means bird in all three languages.
In my case it is German.

I just noticed the .nl in your E-mail address. :-)

However, I lived in a little town in Northwest Iowa, Orange City. Town was
full of Dutch people. They even have a Tulip Festival every year. The
richest people in town were also named Vogel. They are Dutch and own five
paint factories. ;-)

[[Vogel Paint and Wax was started in 1926 by Andrew Vogel in Orange City,
Iowa. He had immigrated from Holland back around 1910 with his parents. His
father was also a painter and paper hanger in Holland. When Andrew moved to
northwest Iowa he began farming.]]
http://www.diamondvogel.com/WhoAreWe.html

The Orange City Tulip Festival
http://www.octulipfestival.com/

Welcome to Orange City, Iowa!
http://www.orangecityiowa.com/

This is a town where you holler, "Hey, Van." And everybody looks. :-)

Just look at the list of surnames for Sioux County. Orange City is in Sioux
County. Scroll down to the Vs. :-) Van..., Vande..., Vanden..., Vander...
http://www.rootsweb.com/~iasioux/surname/sur_tz.htm

Heck, the Ts are full of Te..., Ten... and Ter... Plenty of surnames ending
in sma also. One of my best friends was a Van Klompenburg. Speaking of
klompen, Orange City even has a wooden shoe factory.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:YBMef.4661$X66.3641@fe69.usenetserver.com,
R.J.T. Plomp <rjtplomp@xs4all.nl> hunted and pecked:
> Yup, anything helps. I'm getting ahead in this world of classics. Maybe I
> should just get used to this new menu! ;-)
>
> Vogel sounds like a Dutch name.. I hope I'm not making an effort on
> writing this in my best English.. while all this time.. you're also
> understanding... dankjewel!
>
> Roland
>
>
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:uGxXBFl6FHA.3276@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Roland,
>>
>> NoSimpleStartMenu
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
>> Policies\Explorer
>> and/or
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
>> Policies\Explorer
>> Disables the new simple Start menu and forces the Classic Start Menu.
>> Same as this >> Group Policy editor (Gpedit.msc)
>> User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Start Menu and
>> Taskbar\Policy: Disable the new simple Start Menu
>>
>> ClassicViewState
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
>> Explorer\Advanced
>> and/or
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
>> Explorer\Advanced
>> Enables or disables Explorer Thumbnail View. Has nothing to do with the
>> Start Menu.
>>
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\
>> Explorer\StuckRects2 :-)
>>
>> Policy Settings for the Start Menu in Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;292504
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In news:FCicf.3447$Oe2.823@fe47.usenetserver.com,
>> R.J.T. Plomp <rjtplomp@xs4all.nl> hunted and pecked:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm building an unattended XP installation. With these three registry
>>> keys
>>> I'm able to setup my startmenu in Classicmode and with small icons:
>>>
>>>
>>
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Explor
>> er]
>>> "NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000001
>>>
>>>
>>
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Advanc
>> ed]
>>> "ClassicViewState"=dword:00000001
>>>
>>>
>>
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\StuckR
>> ects2]
>>>
>>
"Settings"=hex:28,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,06,00,00,00 ,03,00,00,00,6b,00,00,00,2
>> 2,\
>>> 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,8e,04,00,00,40,06,00,00,b0,04 ,00,00
>>>
>>> The first forces the menu in classic mode, in fact the simple mode is
>>> not a choice anymore in the GUI.
>>>
>>> The second doesn't do much I think (not sure). But when I leave the
>>> first key out, the second and third alone do nothing.
>>>
>>> The nineth binary value in the StuckRects2 key sets the small icons mode
>>> for the classic menu (derived that from earlier answers in this group)
>>>
>>> What I don't like about this solution is that I'm not able to set the
>>> menu
>>> back to simple mode anymore after applying this.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have better solutions?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Roland