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Old 01-05-2006, 07:21 AM
Big Al
 
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Default Re: have only DV-AVI(PAL) cature option - I need DV-AVI NTSC

I have a feeling this is the problem with my rather old Canon MV20i DVC. The
movie capture is blocky garbled, like it is forcing capture in NTSC mode
while the cam is PAL output. This is through Firewire, Win XP home, SP2.
Maybe there is no fix for this?

"Peter" wrote:

> I got out my Panasonic: I knew one of the interfaces on it was busted and as
> I said, I thought it was the ILink -- I wanted to try the USB interface on
> it. Oh joy! On further examination it turns out that the USB plug is the
> busted one! Ilink interface is intact.
>
> So I set it up. MM recognises the Panasonic, capture wizard recognises it
> as NTSC and capture works perfectly!!
>
> So, as surmised by Cari above, the PAL land Sony, borrowed from a friend,
> seems to tell the computer to expect PAL but then DOES NOT correctly convert
> NTSC to PAL for DV transfer. I did not find a way to configure the Sony to
> pass the NTSC signal its ILink interface, though I did not bust a gut after I
> got the Panasonic working.
>
> Rehan: thanks for your suggestion to use a different capture app: I did try
> WinDV, without success.
>
> Is there a good white paper or document that explains why PAL or NTSC are
> used to encode DV recordings at all? I would have thought this was not
> necessary.
>
> It also seems that camcorder manufacturers have only gone half way with
> their interoperability work.
>
> Peter
>
> "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
> > I'm guessing that your digital camcorder cannot really convert PAL to NTSC.
> > It can put out an image which your TV can see, but it's not really a PAL
> > stream. It is doing what nearly all European VCRs do which is put out a
> > signal that a PAL tv can correctly interpret, but it isn't really PAL or
> > NTSC, just somewhere in between.
> >
> > You'll need to:
> > Either find an NTSC digital camcorder and use that
> > or
> > Get that iLink fixed on the Panasonic.
> > --
> > Cari
> > (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)
> >
> > "Peter" <Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:F54C1611-DD0E-4599-83A1-C593754C740F@microsoft.com...
> > > OK. I have a Sony HC hat plays a DV cassette perfectly. There is a
> > > little
> > > 'NTSC' symbol on the view screen when I play the tape. I did not record
> > > the
> > > tap with this camcorder, though. I recorded it on a Panasonic, but the
> > > iLink
> > > is busted on that camcorder.
> > >
> > > So I set up I link, open Movie Maker. It recognises the Sony, no problem.
> > > I go to capture and choose DV-AVI. I see in 'setting details'... video
> > > format PAL.
> > >
> > > This remains even if I select 'NTSC' on Tools > Options > Advanced. Nor
> > > does this setting bring up an NTSC option.
> > >
> > > During capture, video file size increases as I would expect it to etc.
> > > etc.
> > > Preview video is garbled.
> > >
> > > If it try the capture without preview, the resulting clip is identical.
> > >
> > > Going back to the capture wizard, I select 'other settings' and the drop
> > > down will only offer DV-AVI (PAL) which gives the same results as above.
> > >
> > > I did read another post on the forum of an individual who had the
> > > 'opposite'
> > > problem to mine, though I did not see a resolution to his problem.
> > >
> > > FYI: PC (XP Home Edition), camcorder bought in the US, though I do now
> > > live
> > > in PALland. I did upgrade to SP2 while living in PALland, though I do not
> > > see what incidence this could have.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > "Graham Hughes" wrote:
> > >
> > >> More info would help.
> > >> Set up with what?
> > >> Is the camcorder an NTSC model?
> > >> Where are you based, in NTSC land or PAL land?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Graham Hughes
> > >> MVP Digital Media
> > >> www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
> > >> www.dvds2treasure.com
> > >> www.simplydv.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Peter" <Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:06C1CA2D-F2C3-428E-8FBD-ED94FCA8FCBF@microsoft.com...
> > >> > hi - all seem to be well with the setup, except for the difficulty in
> > >> > the
> > >> > title. can anyone help me out with this ? the DV cassette is in NTSC
> > >> > but
> > >> > I
> > >> > can't enable that format for capture in Movie Maker. capture is
> > >> > possible
> > >> > but
> > >> > shows as wierd colored blocks.
> > >> >
> > >> > thanks
> > >> >
> > >> > Peter
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >

> >
> >
> >
> >

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