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Old 01-05-2006, 07:21 AM
Graham Hughes
 
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Default Re: have only DV-AVI(PAL) cature option - I need DV-AVI NTSC

See here
http://www.myvideoproblems.com/Probl...ngUnderSP2.htm

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Graham Hughes
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"Big Al" <Big Al@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ABFA18D7-6FE0-4F48-A2E4-B8F983B75FAF@microsoft.com...
>I have a feeling this is the problem with my rather old Canon MV20i DVC.
>The
> movie capture is blocky garbled, like it is forcing capture in NTSC mode
> while the cam is PAL output. This is through Firewire, Win XP home, SP2.
> Maybe there is no fix for this?
>
> "Peter" wrote:
>
>> I got out my Panasonic: I knew one of the interfaces on it was busted and
>> as
>> I said, I thought it was the ILink -- I wanted to try the USB interface
>> on
>> it. Oh joy! On further examination it turns out that the USB plug is
>> the
>> busted one! Ilink interface is intact.
>>
>> So I set it up. MM recognises the Panasonic, capture wizard recognises
>> it
>> as NTSC and capture works perfectly!!
>>
>> So, as surmised by Cari above, the PAL land Sony, borrowed from a friend,
>> seems to tell the computer to expect PAL but then DOES NOT correctly
>> convert
>> NTSC to PAL for DV transfer. I did not find a way to configure the Sony
>> to
>> pass the NTSC signal its ILink interface, though I did not bust a gut
>> after I
>> got the Panasonic working.
>>
>> Rehan: thanks for your suggestion to use a different capture app: I did
>> try
>> WinDV, without success.
>>
>> Is there a good white paper or document that explains why PAL or NTSC are
>> used to encode DV recordings at all? I would have thought this was not
>> necessary.
>>
>> It also seems that camcorder manufacturers have only gone half way with
>> their interoperability work.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>>
>> > I'm guessing that your digital camcorder cannot really convert PAL to
>> > NTSC.
>> > It can put out an image which your TV can see, but it's not really a
>> > PAL
>> > stream. It is doing what nearly all European VCRs do which is put out
>> > a
>> > signal that a PAL tv can correctly interpret, but it isn't really PAL
>> > or
>> > NTSC, just somewhere in between.
>> >
>> > You'll need to:
>> > Either find an NTSC digital camcorder and use that
>> > or
>> > Get that iLink fixed on the Panasonic.
>> > --
>> > Cari
>> > (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)
>> >
>> > "Peter" <Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:F54C1611-DD0E-4599-83A1-C593754C740F@microsoft.com...
>> > > OK. I have a Sony HC hat plays a DV cassette perfectly. There is a
>> > > little
>> > > 'NTSC' symbol on the view screen when I play the tape. I did not
>> > > record
>> > > the
>> > > tap with this camcorder, though. I recorded it on a Panasonic, but
>> > > the
>> > > iLink
>> > > is busted on that camcorder.
>> > >
>> > > So I set up I link, open Movie Maker. It recognises the Sony, no
>> > > problem.
>> > > I go to capture and choose DV-AVI. I see in 'setting details'...
>> > > video
>> > > format PAL.
>> > >
>> > > This remains even if I select 'NTSC' on Tools > Options > Advanced.
>> > > Nor
>> > > does this setting bring up an NTSC option.
>> > >
>> > > During capture, video file size increases as I would expect it to
>> > > etc.
>> > > etc.
>> > > Preview video is garbled.
>> > >
>> > > If it try the capture without preview, the resulting clip is
>> > > identical.
>> > >
>> > > Going back to the capture wizard, I select 'other settings' and the
>> > > drop
>> > > down will only offer DV-AVI (PAL) which gives the same results as
>> > > above.
>> > >
>> > > I did read another post on the forum of an individual who had the
>> > > 'opposite'
>> > > problem to mine, though I did not see a resolution to his problem.
>> > >
>> > > FYI: PC (XP Home Edition), camcorder bought in the US, though I do
>> > > now
>> > > live
>> > > in PALland. I did upgrade to SP2 while living in PALland, though I
>> > > do not
>> > > see what incidence this could have.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > > Peter
>> > >
>> > > "Graham Hughes" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> More info would help.
>> > >> Set up with what?
>> > >> Is the camcorder an NTSC model?
>> > >> Where are you based, in NTSC land or PAL land?
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Graham Hughes
>> > >> MVP Digital Media
>> > >> www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
>> > >> www.dvds2treasure.com
>> > >> www.simplydv.com
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "Peter" <Peter@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:06C1CA2D-F2C3-428E-8FBD-ED94FCA8FCBF@microsoft.com...
>> > >> > hi - all seem to be well with the setup, except for the difficulty
>> > >> > in
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > title. can anyone help me out with this ? the DV cassette is in
>> > >> > NTSC
>> > >> > but
>> > >> > I
>> > >> > can't enable that format for capture in Movie Maker. capture is
>> > >> > possible
>> > >> > but
>> > >> > shows as wierd colored blocks.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > thanks
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Peter
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >



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