If your saying you had an winxp installation together with programs
installed on F: which is no longer functioning as a bootable drive,
allthough you can boot from C: and read/write to F
Then any apps that were installed on F will have to be reinstalled to
wherever.
You cannot move apps from one win installation to another. You can only move
data.
"RealtorJohn" <MSnewsgroup@pamgrice.com> wrote in message
news:E93B3F65-3D77-45C3-AC94-07ACF5ED60A0@microsoft.com...
> You can reach me directly at realtorjohn@pamgrice.com if it would be
easier.
>
> I have 3 functioning drives. Meaning I can read and write to all 3. A
160GB
> SG is rives C: & D:; a 120GB WD is F:, was c: when installed XP,; and 2
80GB
> SG is mirrored and designated E:.
>
> Windows XP is setup and working on the C: and E: drives, it is setup on
the
> F: drive but not working, I was going to repair that installation and as I
> have already copied all to the program folders to the users on the C: & E:
> drives, I was hoping to use the transfer option and transfer all of the
> program function to the C: & E: drives so that in the future I could have
an
> instant fall back on another system should the E: fail. Of course I would
> back up the data files to the systems on C: & F: daily. I could also use
> Norton Windoctor to correct any regestry errors.
>
> Just sorry that MS not longer allows windows to see already installed
> programs when you are forced to reinstall Windows!
> --
> Thanks in advance,
> Realtor John
>
> "DL" wrote:
>
> > I'm a bit confused by your setup, but assuming
> > you have a functioning C drive containing the win installation and
> > functioning raid drives containing data and / or apps that were
installed
> > with this win setup.
> > Any apps on F wiill have to be reinstalled to wherever.
> >
> > On a personal note I think you are making life too complicated.
> > By all means config your system to use raid mirror with the two 80gb
drives.
> > Disconect all other hd's, Partition these to C: win + apps, D: data and
> > install win and apps.
> > Once up and running, connect the other hd and use this as a backup of
either
> > data only or with a third party tool eg Acronis as a full sys/data
backup
> > NB If you have a sys backup and the origonal sys is corrupted so may
your
> > backup.
> >
> > "RealtorJohn" <MSnewsgroup@pamgrice.com> wrote in message
> > news:1C9C2BE7-CDB9-4B86-ACDA-2EB74DF2B4D9@microsoft.com...
> > > OK I get the message, That is kinda what I expected so I planned to
use
> > the
> > > Other 2 drives as backups once I got my system running smoothly.
> > >
> > > So how can I get all my programs that were installed on the F: drive
to
> > run
> > > on my mirror drive and the C: drive.
> > > --
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > Realtor John
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > >
> > > > DL wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > A mirror raid is not an altenative to a backup.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Absolutely right. Mirroring is used to provide reduncancy in a
situation
> > > > where downtime can't be tolerated. Backup is still required to
provent
> > loss
> > > > of data in situations where both the original and mirror are lost
> > > > simultaneously.
> > > >
> > > > For the average user (certainly almost every home user) mirroring
not
> > only
> > > > isn't required, it isn't even a good idea.. It provides a false
sense of
> > > > security, and suffers from the same weaknesses as backup to a
> > non-removable
> > > > hard drive--it leaves you susceptible to simultaneous loss of the
> > original
> > > > and backup to many of the most common dangers: severe power
glitches,
> > nearby
> > > > lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> > > > Please reply to the newsgroup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Depending on the raid controler, if a hd fails the system may not
> > > > > report which hd has failed, and it may go down. It also maybe that
> > > > > you cannot reboot untill you split the raid and disconnect the
failed
> > > > > HD, once you have determined which HD has failed.
> > > > > After experiencing many problems with onboard raid, as supplied on
> > > > > many mobos, I purchased a reasonably high end raid card ($380) I
know
> > > > > this unit will show which HD has a problem and will continue
running
> > > > > the sys when a HD fails. I also added a third hot swap HD which
the
> > > > > card will automatically use to rebuild if one fails.
> > > > > PS I still have onsite/offsite backups
> > > > >
> > > > > "RealtorJohn" <MSnewsgroup@pamgrice.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:21C1C273-A929-4D26-8F95-9FD672D63234@microsoft.com...
> > > > >> Let me straighten out any misconceptions. All of the current
drives
> > > > >> have only been installed on this machine.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I had a faulty HD from which no data coiuld be retreived, (sent
to a
> > > > >> recovery company), in the mean time I installed a SG 160GB and
> > > > >> installed XP and reloaded most of my programs. The damaged HD was
> > > > >> under warrenty so
> > > > >> WD sent me a refurbished HD that was the same model and size of
the
> > > > >> old one. I was intending to use the WD dirive strictly as backup
for
> > > > >> data, I didn't want to loose all of my data again.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> After about 3 weeks the SG 160GB XP installation started failing
and
> > > > >> I couldn't get it to repair. I then installed XP on the
refurbished
> > > > >> WD drive and reinstalled the HW and SW again.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In the meantime I investigated using a RAID configuration with a
> > > > >> mirror solution to try to avoid more down time, I depend on my
> > > > >> computer everyday I can't afford to have it unusable, it needs to
be
> > > > >> available 100% of the time. So I came up with the brilliant idea
of
> > > > >> multiple boots.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> My idea was to use the mirror drive as the main boot, and have
one
> > > > >> on each of the other drives, just in case.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Most of my programs had been installed on the F: drive, of couse
it
> > > > >> was the C: drive at the time. No fear I can use Norton Windoctor
to
> > > > >> change any designations to whatever they need to be changed to.
And
> > > > >> no there has not been a clean install on the F: drive. I read
DL's
> > > > >> responce and I will try to repair the XP installation before I
> > > > >> proceed any further.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I understand about having progams on a seperate partition or disk
is
> > > > >> not of much value now. It seems to me that W95 would reinstall
and
> > > > >> any programs on your HD would automatically be registered and
> > > > >> installed for use. What a crime that XP doesn't work that way.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thank you both, DL and Ken. I'll let you know how I make out.
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Thanks in advance,
> > > > >> Realtor John
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> RealtorJohn wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> I had a XP crash from which I couln't recover. I installed into
my
> > > > >>>> home built 2 80 GB SG drives and set them up as a RAID 1. I
still
> > > > >>>> have the drive with all of my programs that had been loaded
onto
> > > > >>>> it, XP just doesn't work. I am using PnP to put all of my
hardware
> > > > >>>> back into the new RAID 1 drive (E
setup.
> > > > >>>> My set up is:
> > > > >>>> ASUS P4C800 Deluxe MB
> > > > >>>> 1GB RAM
> > > > >>>> Built in USB ports (4 are activated)
> > > > >>>> Built in Network connection (RJ45 Port)
> > > > >>>> Built in Sound using Sound MAx software.
> > > > >>>> Uses Promise Fst Trak 378 Driver for the RAID
> > > > >>>> I have also make the system a multiple boot with an XP system
on
> > > > >>>> C:, E:, & F: C: is SG 160GB
> > > > >>>> D: is a 22GB portion of C:
> > > > >>>> E: is 2 SG 80 GB Raid 1 Mirrorred drives (I've had 2 crashes in
6
> > > > >>>> months) F:is a WD 120GB a rebuilt replacement for the the
original
> > > > >>>> failure.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> F: boot does not work and that is the disk with all of the
> > > > >>>> installed HW & SW
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Certainly there must be a way to have the progams already
installed
> > > > >>>> on F: to act as if they have been installed on the E: and D:
drives
> > > > >>>> without actually installing them.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I hope someone can tell me how to do this. It is most
distressing
> > > > >>>> to be required to reinstall about 50 (including utilities)
> > > > >>>> programs.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Are you saying that you have installed programs on F: and that
these
> > > > >>> programs had been installed under Windows XP, but Windows XP has
> > > > >>> since been cleanly reinstalled?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Sorry, but there is no way to use those installed programs, and
> > > > >>> they have to be reinstalled from scratch. Installed programs
(all
> > > > >>> but the very occasionl tiny program) have many components and
> > > > >>> references all over the operating system (in the registry and
> > > > >>> elsewhere).When you reinstalled Windows, all of this was lost.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> This is the main reason why having a separate drive or partition
for
> > > > >>> installed programs isn't really a useful thing to do.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> > > > >>> Please reply to the newsgroup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >