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Old 01-05-2006, 04:38 PM
Rick Chauvin
 
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Default Re: Three issues with FTP browsing in Internet Explorer 6 SP1 (Windows 98 SE)

Ivan Bútora wrote:
> Rick,
>
> thanks for your reply! See my responses inline.


Back on SE now, and mine are inline too

>
>
>> ..When that box is UnChecked that ftp site looks like this (my
>> screenshot) http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/7...checked0wk.gif
>> (which I assume is what you mean by HTML based)
>>
>> ...and when the box is CheckMarked - that ftp site looks like this:
>> (my screenshot)
>> http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/5...checked8as.gif
>> (which is I assume what you mean by Explorer like)

>
> Hmm, on my machine, it was the other way around. Well, as long as on


Interesting.. I know that some of the IE Cumulatives often changed things around
there and so depending on which IE you have installed on that maybe could be the
reasons I'm guessing?

> your 9x machine it's OK, then there's nothing to worry about -
> apparently just some quirk on my system.
>
> I actually found the relevant registry settings and fixed it. Just FYI,
> the setting is determined in this Registry key
> (HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Ftp) by the "Use Web Based FTP"
> value.
>
> My problem was that under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet
> Explorer\AdvancedOptions\BROWSE\FTPUI, I had the "yes" for
> "CheckedValue" and "no" for "UnCheckedvalue", i.e. the reverse
> configuration.
>
> So, problem fixed!



Great then, although you have to wonder why it was switched in the first place,
unless as I said it's which Culm or ver IE you have installed


>> Only the "CopyToFolder" works for me too, but just a 'Copy' does not
>> work and I don't think it's suppose to either, same as why the 'Cut'
>> does not work since the ftp site is not really on your own local
>> network, even though that view may make it look like it is, but it's
>> actually read only, etc, in that case.

>
> OK, so same behavior for you. I do think this is bad implementation by
> Microsoft. If "Copy" is not supposed to work, it should be greyed out on
> the Edit menu. Note that Cut is greyout out, while Paste is available if
> you have something on the clipboard.



Yep I can't disagree with you on that, but that's the way it is on mine too so it
must be universal. I've never paid any attention to it actually since as mentioned I
only use an ftp client to do all my ftp work, but I do agree for the quickies it's
convenient to use the stock one.


> I will check an XP machine tomorrow to see if the same quirk exists.
>
>
>> If I double click a 'file' (not txt file though) within a second a
>> 'File Download' 'Prompt' will pop up just the same as if I was to do a
>> "SaveTarget" on a file at a website (note though 'SaveTarget' is not
>> available in this particular view)
>>
>> Now if you computer is not letting you download a file like I just did
>> with the File Download prompt when double clicking it, then you have
>> something blocking that action is all; maybe you have restricted zone
>> settings set, or IO options for downloading in that zone blocked, or a
>> particular site in your Host file, or a dozen other mentions that could
>> block it, then you will get a this page cannot be displayed

> prompt - until
>> you turn off what's blocking that site or its download function in that
>> way.

>
> Actually, when I browse an FTP site anonymoulsy (such as ftp.adobe.com),
> I have the same behavior as you. (It should be noted that Internet
> Explorer here still behaves as a web browser despite the "local"
> Exlporer interface - i.e. IE opens .htm files or .txt files itself
> rather than passing them on to the default application, as Explorer
> would when browsing local folders. I will verify later today that the
> behavior is the same on an XP system.)
>
> My problem with "The page cannot be displayed" happens when I am logged
> into an FTP site with a user name and password. In such case, the
> address has the syntax "ftp://user@site", and this might be giving
> Explorer some problems. I believe that an XP system handles this
> correctly, and will also verify this later today.



I never logged on a site with the stock ftp and it's set as anonymous log in and if a
site wouldn't let me in that way then I would just use my cuteftp client to that kind
of action anyway, especially when maintaining my website uploading files etc that's
the only thing I will use..


>> As far as I can tell Ivan the way mine works anyway, everything seems
>> to be working normal for what a 9x box is suppose to do; although you
>> know it was never meant to be a fast, efficient, nor secure way to deal
>> with accessing ftp sites. I don't really ever use the stock ftp
>> functions in 9x/2K/XP though and always use a separate program (I have
>> and like CuteFTP) ..but naturally everyone has their own favorite that
>> they like to use.

>
> I also don't use the Microsoft FTP interface for advanced functions (I
> currently use FAR file manager with the FTP plugin), but sometimes it
> comes in handy. It appears to me there are some quirks on a 9x system,
> but in order to make this claim I have to check an XP system, which I
> will do, and post back with my findings later today.
>
> I appreciate your response and feedback!


YW, always glad to help,
Rick
...I see from my other replies that I need to install OEQuotefix on my other OS's too.
That is such a great program I can't say enough about it for what it does for lining
up the quotes in OE & O to look in order.

>
> Ivan








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