Hi. Today at work, I tested on both a 98 machine and an XP machine, and came up
with the following (inline):


--- In news:Osb5wpWEGHA.2388@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl, Rick Chauvin typed:


>>> Only the "CopyToFolder" works for me too, but just a 'Copy' does not
>>> work and I don't think it's suppose to either, same as why the 'Cut'
>>> does not work since the ftp site is not really on your own local
>>> network, even though that view may make it look like it is, but it's
>>> actually read only, etc, in that case.
>>
>> OK, so same behavior for you. I do think this is bad implementation by
>> Microsoft. If "Copy" is not supposed to work, it should be greyed out on
>> the Edit menu. Note that Cut is greyout out, while Paste is available if
>> you have something on the clipboard.
>
>
> Yep I can't disagree with you on that, but that's the way it is on mine too
> so it must be universal. I've never paid any attention to it actually since
> as mentioned I only use an ftp client to do all my ftp work, but I do agree
> for the quickies it's convenient to use the stock one.

As you mention in your other post, the "Copy" function does work in XP.
Additionally, XP has a "Cut" which works as well. The limitation for both of
these is that they only work for cutting/copying and pasting between the FTP
resource and local folders - i.e. if you copy/cut a file or folder on the FTP
resource, "Paste" will appear as greyed out when browsing the FTP resource, but
you can paste whatever is on the clipboard into a local folder in Explorer.
Probably doing a copy/cut/paste within an FTP would have required additional
programming by Microsoft, so that's why they chose this limited implementation.
Note that XP (and I assume also 2000?) also has a "Move to folder..." in
addition to the "Copy to folder..." function.

Now call me picky, but this is in my opinion a case of an inconsistent
implementation of a feature across platforms. I ask: WHY does the Copy work in
XP, but not 98? Is there some real reason other than laziness and a lack of
dilligence from MS programmers? I have a problem if Microsoft rolls out a
product (IE 6), but then one (albeit rather unimportant) "fetaure" of this
program is broken on a platform which is supposed to be supported. What's worse
is that this is NOT DOCUMENTED properly anywhere. When you think about the
move/delete large number of files issue, it's really the same mindset that
allows something like this to happen, except in the latter case that problem is
much more critical. I guess that's really my major problem with Microsoft - it
seems that if there is a critical problem that's out of "mainstream" attention,
it's just so hard to get MS to ackwoledge it; you have the feeling like there
are people behind closed doors who are not responsive and open about what they
do.


>> My problem with "The page cannot be displayed" happens when I am logged
>> into an FTP site with a user name and password. In such case, the
>> address has the syntax "ftp://user@site", and this might be giving
>> Explorer some problems. I believe that an XP system handles this
>> correctly, and will also verify this later today.
>
>
> I never logged on a site with the stock ftp and it's set as anonymous log in
> and if a site wouldn't let me in that way then I would just use my cuteftp
> client to that kind of action anyway, especially when maintaining my website
> uploading files etc that's the only thing I will use..

So actually on the 98 machine that I tested today this worked properly, i.e. I
was not getting "The page cannot be displayed" even when logged into an FTP
site. So it must just be on my machine that it happens (although I thought it
happened to me before on another machine back home in Slovakia). Any ideas on
what could be the cause?


> ..I see from my other replies that I need to install OEQuotefix on my other
> OS's too. That is such a great program I can't say enough about it for what
> it does for lining up the quotes in OE & O to look in order.

I agree, it's very good. Unfortunately it's no longer updated, and it would
definitely need updating - I find that sometimes OE-Quotefix freezes, and
additionally there are situations where both Outlook QuoteFix and OE-Quotefix do
NOT fix the quoting correctly. (We could do a whole thread on when such
situations arise, because there are so many scenarios depending on message
formatting, the e-mail clients involved, etc. Unfortunately such a discussion
woudl probably be pointless since the author has the code but seems to have
dropped any development of the programs, which, as you say, are otherwise
extremely helpful. I have contacted the author three times over the course of
the past few months, and have not gotten any response. I think it would be great
to have these two apps as an open source project.)

All the best,

Ivan