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Old 01-05-2006, 05:13 PM
PA Bear
 
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Default Re: KB823353 Cumulative Security Update Outlook Express

> I never had 823353 in my installed components, it never appeared in
> add/remove


Yes, I understand that. I had my reasons for asking what I did though.

> With 897715 and 887797 uninstalled the versions are :
>
> msoe.dll 6.00.2800.1437
> inetcomm.dll 6.00.2800.1441


Installing 823353 (Yes, I know, but bear with me) *gives* you those versions
of those files.

Why did it happen? Known issues with OE Updates and Windows Update
notwithstanding (I think we've ruled this out), I suspect it was caused by
problems already present on the machine when you installed WinXP SP2 a while
ago.

Short answer: You're only going to fix this by Repairing or Reinstalling OE
per http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318378...or backing up for personal
data, formatting and reinstalling WinXP.

Best of luck.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org


dimie71 wrote:
> PA Bear,
>
> Antivirus was not active during the procedure.
>
> As I said in my previous message, after the procedure it went down to
> msoe.dll version 6.00.2800.1437.
>
> Therefore with unistalling 897715, reboot, unistalling 887797, reboot, the
> version is
> msoe.dll version 6.00.2800.1437.
>
> Something you didnt get right cause perhaps it was not so clear.
> I never had 823353 in my installed components, it never appeared in
> add/remove, it just came up in WINDOWS UPDATE and it would never
> install... The procedure in windows update would report that it had
> successfully installed 823353 but it would never appear as installed in
> add/remove, it would only appear every time in windows update!
>
> So...
>
> With 897715 and 887797 uninstalled the versions are :
>
> msoe.dll 6.00.2800.1437
> inetcomm.dll 6.00.2800.1441
>
> And something else. I said that I dont want to install SP2 for the
> annoying messages. That means that I will definately not install
> SP2...Therefore I dont care if SP2 is in anyway affected by the specific
> problem I have right now because I am not interested in installing it for
> the reasons I described before...Omg, remembering how annoying it was, I
> wouldnt even bother and I also do not recommend that SP2 is installed if
> you have your own firewall!
>
> Hey, thanks for all your effort so far!
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
> > Please include all of previous message(s) in your replies to the
> > newsgroup.
> >
> > Did you do all this with OE and your anti-virus application closed
> > throughout?
> >
> > What versions are MSOE.DLL and INETCOMM.DLL now?
> >
> > If you uninstall 897715, reboot, uninstall 887797 & reboot, is 823353
> > found in Add/Remove Programs? If so, uninstall it & reboot, then post
> > back with the then-current versions of MSOE.DLL and INETCOMM.DLL.
> >
> > I would not install SP2 while this problem persists.
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
> >
> > dimie71 wrote:
> > > Thanks for your answer PA Bear.
> > > Unfortunately it didnt work.
> > > Here is the result.
> > >
> > > 1. Unistalled 887997 and rebooted. Checked windows update and the only
> > > result I had was 823353, still downloaded, reinstalled, still came up
> > > in the next check.
> > >
> > > 2. Tried from Step 2a and below.
> > >
> > > msoe.dll (of course not msimn.exe !) version was 6.00.2800.1437
> > >
> > > I thought what the heck, will try it anyway (wasnt a good thought
> > > after all). Managed to install 823353 manually!
> > > Managed to install 887797 manually.
> > > Managed to install 897715 manually.
> > >
> > > After all the reboots, I returned to windows update and found out that
> > > 823353 was still waiting fom me there!!!
> > >
> > > Was that caused from the msoe.dll version? I mean, if it was
> > > 6.00.2800.1409 or earlier, would it work?
> > > How do I get to the versions of msoe.dll that will make it work?
> > > (assuming thats the case here)
> > >
> > > About your suggestion for WinXP SP2, well used to run SP2, I was
> > > terribly annoyed by the continueing messages concerning my firewall
> > > (unfortunately I havent met anybody who can disable that warning),
> > > removed SP2, WinXP kept crashing after the roll back, tried multiple
> > > ways of repairing, all failed, so I decided I will stick with SP1
> > > which is fine so far (after I reinstalled WinXp)
> > > I have my own purchased antivirus&firewall software so SP2 was really
> > > a pain in the butt.
> > > Would move on to SP2 if that annoying firewall message could go away.
> > >
> > > "PA Bear" wrote:
> > > > > msoe.dll version 6.00.2800.1478
> > > >
> > > > 1. Uninstall 887797 ('Windows XP - KB887797'?) via Add/Remove
> > > > Programs and reboot.
> > > >
> > > > 2a. Assuming MSOE.DLL (not Outlook Express/MSIMN.EXE) is now
> > > > v6.00.2800.1409 or earlier (i.e., v6.00.2800.1123 or
> > > > v6.00.2800.1106), install (KB)823353 manually using the file
> > > > downloaded from
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> > > >
> > > > 2b. Optional: Reboot and install KB887797 via
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...6-a1a3da675baf
> > > >
> > > > 3. Reboot and (re)install (KB)897715 manually using the file
> > > > downloaded from
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...d-28502b3d2518
> > > >
> > > > Alternatively, after #1 above, check in at Windows Update and
> > > > install whatever OE Cumulative Update is now offered and reboot.
> > > > Then return to Windows Update to see if another one's now offered
> > > > you.
> > > >
> > > > OT: I'd get WinXP SP2 installed ASAP, too.

> > <paste>
> > dimie71 wrote:
> > > I have a similar but somehow different problem with this update.
> > > Like most people said it keeps coming back, update finds it already
> > > downloaded, reinstalls everytime and next time its still there.
> > > I tried all possible solutions described in here so far, none worked.
> > > I get some other error messages as if I am not running Outlook
> > > Express 6 or 6 SP1.
> > >
> > > First of all i unistalled the update KB897715 and tried to install
> > > through windows update but also manually (by downloading the file)
> > > the update KB823353. Still it didnt work.
> > >
> > > When I try to install the update by executing the file I get this
> > > message
> > > > This update requires Outlook Express 6 Service Pack 1 to be
> > > > installed.
> > >
> > > When I try to install the version for thats for Outlook Express 6
> > > without SP1, I get a message saying :
> > > This update requires Outlook Express 6 to be installed !!!
> > >
> > > Ok, here's some info you might find useful before you ask for them
> > >
> > > Running WinXP Pro SP1.
> > > At the about screen of Outlook Express, its version 6 (I already knew
> > > that...).
> > > More specifically its 6.00.2800.1123 (after unistalling the KB897715,
> > > dont know if it was different before).
> > > msoe.dll version 6.00.2800.1478

> > <snip>


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