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Old 01-05-2006, 04:32 PM
Don Varnau
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Total ActiveX rejection - Windows XP SP2

Hi,
Did you delete the Temporary Internet Files *folder* or just clear out the
files? The TIF folder may be corrupted. Deleting it will allow a new one to
be created. And, the TIF folder (cache) will be less prone to corruption if
you keep it below 100 MB. 50-60 MB is large enough, but not too large for
most users.

Don
[MS MVP- IE]


"jomuir" <jomuir[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5D22FDC7-5452-493C-8918-57A5CC45F13F@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> Still not joy!! I had to reduce the size to get it to 50MB, it was
> automatically set over 2000MB......deleted the files and moved the slider
> (about to move it back) but still no joy.
>
> Thanks again.


> "Don Varnau" wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Try deleting the Temporary Internet Files folder for the affected user
> > account. Make sure that you can see hidden files (Folder Options> View)

Then
> > login as another user with administrator privileges, or from the

machine's
> > default administrator account (startup in safe mode) and delete the

affected
> > TIF folder from Windows Explorer. It will be at [C:\Documents and
> > Settings\username\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files]
> >
> > 315222 - A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=315222
> >
> > You would not be able to delete this folder when logged in as
> > yourself- it's "In use." You should be able to delete it from the
> > Administrator account.
> >
> > It's often recommended that the TIF folder size be set to about 50 MB.
> > That's set at Internet Options> General> Temporary Internet Files>

Settings.
> >
> > Also, delete any cookies from Microsoft or Crucial. In Internet Options>
> > Privacy, set the slider to Accept all (briefly- as a test ) or put these

two
> > sites in the Always allow list.


> > "jomuir" <jomuir[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:8F2C0308-78D2-4524-BC76-C80DEE429F9E@microsoft.com...
> > > "Require server verification" was and is unchecked.
> > >
> > > Remove any "damaged" objects. Remove any objects - nothing was listed

as
> > > damaged and nothing from microsoft or crucial listed at all, just the
> > > following:-
> > > Java Runtime Enviroment 1.5.0 (3 0f them all the same version, one

4KB,
> > the
> > > other 2 noneKB)
> > > MsnMessenger SetupDownloadControl Class
> > > Shockwave Active Control
> > > Shockwave Flash Object
> > > Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool
> > >
> > > All of these have the status of "Installed"
> > >
> > > 3rd party products that could be causing problem (but where on my

other pc
> > > before I did a rebuild on this one, so should not be) are:-
> > >
> > > Microsoft Antispyware
> > > AVG Free Edition Antivirus
> > > Linksys Wireless router (this lets my old pc download activeX and my

work
> > > Notebook)
> > >
> > > I turned off the above 2 and still could not get it to work - however

I
> > was
> > > not asked if I wanted to install ActiveX ("This site might require

> > the...")
> > > on the toolbar, it just went straight to "Your security settings do

not
> > allow
> > > Web sites to use ActiveX......"
> > >
> > > Same thing when I activeted them again.......on the office.microsoft

> > update
> > > site I am not even getting the notification tool bar anymore, it gets

to
> > 10%
> > > then stops.


> > > "Don Varnau" wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > In Internet Options> Security> Trusted Sites> Sites, "Require server
> > > > verification" should be unchecked.
> > > >
> > > > Internet Options> General> Temporary Internet Files> Settings> View

> > Objects,
> > > > choose Details view. Remove any "damaged" objects. Remove any

objects
> > from
> > > > crucial.com or microsoft/office update.
> > > >
> > > > Are you sure that a third-party security/ad-blocking program isn't

> > blocking
> > > > scripts, scripting, active content?


> > > > "jomuir" wrote in message
> > > > news:63686B62-0D70-41F8-A6B4-AC3FAC8EA1FD@microsoft.com...
> > > > > 4 values are correct, added both to trusted site and still no luck
> > > > (however
> > > > > it did seem to take longer to say no - I thought it was working!!)
> > > > >
> > > > > And the *allow active content to run in files on My computer was

> > already
> > > > > ticked.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Could this be something more to do with Windows than Internet

> > Explorer - I
> > > > > have no idea, just trying to figure it out!!

> >
> > > > > "Don Varnau" wrote:
> > > > > > This script should be safe and will only offer a fix if the

registry
> > > > values
> > > > > > are incorrect:
> > > > > > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip

(KB896688_fix.exe;
> > a
> > > > small
> > > > > > VB app that checks the 4 values and offers a repair option if

any of
> > > > them
> > > > > > are incorrect)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Other possibilities:
> > > > > > Place those sites in Trusted Sites with a wildcard, such as:
> > > > > > *.crucial.com
> > > > > > *.microsoft.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A longshot, but try...
> > > > > > Internet Options> Advanced> Security> check "Allow active

content to
> > run
> > > > in files on My Computer ."

> >
> > > > > > "jomuir" <jomuir[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:CD0634DA-59E8-43E5-BF90-C1010D0EADF5@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you for your quick reply!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I tried the first bits in No.1 and unfortunately that did not

> > work, I
> > > > did
> > > > > > > not try number 2 as it points me to:-
> > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216434/
> > > > > > > and it the bottom where is states what it applies to it does

not
> > cover
> > > > > > > Internet Explorer 6.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any other ideas that might help? Should I do point 2 anyway

> > (presume
> > > > > > it will
> > > > > > > cause no harm to my pc?)

> >
> > > > > > > "Don Varnau" wrote:
> > > > > > > > A recent security update may be causing this. Here's a

repost of
> > a
> > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > from PA Bear:
> > > > > > > > - - - -
> > > > > > > > See:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet

> > Explorer
> > > > due to
> > > > > > > > defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative security

> > update
> > > > 896688
> > > > > > > > (MS05-052) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909889
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Fix: http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip

(OLEFix.reg)
> > or
> > > > > > > > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip

> > (KB896688_fix.exe;
> > > > a
> > > > > > small
> > > > > > > > VB app that checks the 4 values and offers a repair option

if
> > any of
> > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > are incorrect)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2. A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may not

> > load as
> > > > > > > > expected in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth

changes
> > > > introduced
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > cumulative security update 896688 (MS05-052)
> > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909738
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > > > > > > > - - - - - -

> >
> > > > > > > > "jomuir" wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news0B15815-FE65-45AA-A265-698EE7BF573B@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > I cannot access any site with Active X after doing a

rebuild
> > with
> > > > > > > > the latest
> > > > > > > > > version of Windows XP SP2.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If I go to http://www.crucial.com/uk/systemscanner/ (try

and
> > run
> > > > > > scanner)
> > > > > > > > OR
> > > > > > > > > to

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/of...e/default.aspx
> > > > (try and run
> > > > > > > > > check for updates) I get the tool bar:- "This site might

> > require
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > following ActiveX control: Name. From: Publisher. Click

here
> > to
> > > > > > > > install..."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So click install Active X
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Then I get "Your security settings do not allow Web sites

to
> > use
> > > > > > ActiveX
> > > > > > > > > controls installed on your computer. This page may not

display
> > > > > > correctly.
> > > > > > > > > Click here for optionsâÃ

¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚¦"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I cannot get passed this? I have put all security settings

in
> > IE
> > > > > > to low,
> > > > > > > > > enabled everything..... then after installing other

software
> > etc I
> > > > > > stopped
> > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > firewalls (hardware and software) even stopped Antivirus

on
> > the
> > > > off chance!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nothing!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Even found a site that said they had solved the issue by:-
> > > > > > > > > > 1. Click Start ->Run and type "regsvr32 Softpub.dll"

> > (without
> > > > double
> > > > > > > > > > quotes)
> > > > > > > > > > 2. Click okay to register it
> > > > > > > > > > 3. Do the same re-registration process with the rest of

> > these
> > > > ..dll
> > > > > > > > files:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 softpub.dll (as mentioned above)
> > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 wintrust.dll
> > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 initpki.dll
> > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 urlmon.dll
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 4. Restart your computer and try the update site again

(or
> > other
> > > > > > sites
> > > > > > > > > > requiring ActiveX to be enabled).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also tried:-
> > > > > > > > > 1. Click Start, click Run, type cmd in the Open box, and

then
> > OK.
> > > > > > > > > 2. At the command prompt, type the following commands, and

> > press
> > > > ENTER
> > > > > > > > after
> > > > > > > > > each command:
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u softpub.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u wintrust.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u initpki.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u dssenh.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u rsaenh.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u gpkcsp.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u sccbase.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u slbcsp.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u mssip32.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u cryptdlg.dll
> > > > > > > > > exit
> > > > > > > > > Note Click OK if you are prompted.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Note Microsoft Windows 2000 does not include the

Sccbase.dll
> > file.
> > > > If
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > are running a version of Windows 2000, omit the

Sccbase.dll
> > file.
> > > > > > > > > 3. Restart your computer.
> > > > > > > > > 4. Click Start, click Run, type cmd in the Open box, and

then
> > > > click
> > > > > > OK.
> > > > > > > > > 5. At the command prompt, type the following commands, and

> > press
> > > > ENTER
> > > > > > > > after
> > > > > > > > > each command:
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 softpub.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 wintrust.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 initpki.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 dssenh.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 rsaenh.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 gpkcsp.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 sccbase.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 slbcsp.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 mssip32.dll
> > > > > > > > > regsvr32 cryptdlg.dll
> > > > > > > > > exit
> > > > > > > > > Note Click OK if you are prompted.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Still did not work - Anyone any ideas?


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  #12  
Old 01-05-2006, 04:32 PM
jomuir
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Total ActiveX rejection - Windows XP SP2

yes, I changed the cahche to 50MB and Internet Options/General Delete
Cookies, Delete Files and Clear History. Then I logged out and signed in as
admin and deleted the actual folder. Rebooted and tried to access these sites
again, but with no joy.

Thanks
J

"Don Varnau" wrote:

> Hi,
> Did you delete the Temporary Internet Files *folder* or just clear out the
> files? The TIF folder may be corrupted. Deleting it will allow a new one to
> be created. And, the TIF folder (cache) will be less prone to corruption if
> you keep it below 100 MB. 50-60 MB is large enough, but not too large for
> most users.
>
> Don
> [MS MVP- IE]
>
>
> "jomuir" <jomuir[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5D22FDC7-5452-493C-8918-57A5CC45F13F@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Still not joy!! I had to reduce the size to get it to 50MB, it was
> > automatically set over 2000MB......deleted the files and moved the slider
> > (about to move it back) but still no joy.
> >
> > Thanks again.

>
> > "Don Varnau" wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > Try deleting the Temporary Internet Files folder for the affected user
> > > account. Make sure that you can see hidden files (Folder Options> View)

> Then
> > > login as another user with administrator privileges, or from the

> machine's
> > > default administrator account (startup in safe mode) and delete the

> affected
> > > TIF folder from Windows Explorer. It will be at [C:\Documents and
> > > Settings\username\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files]
> > >
> > > 315222 - A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP:
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=315222
> > >
> > > You would not be able to delete this folder when logged in as
> > > yourself- it's "In use." You should be able to delete it from the
> > > Administrator account.
> > >
> > > It's often recommended that the TIF folder size be set to about 50 MB.
> > > That's set at Internet Options> General> Temporary Internet Files>

> Settings.
> > >
> > > Also, delete any cookies from Microsoft or Crucial. In Internet Options>
> > > Privacy, set the slider to Accept all (briefly- as a test ) or put these

> two
> > > sites in the Always allow list.

>
> > > "jomuir" <jomuir[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:8F2C0308-78D2-4524-BC76-C80DEE429F9E@microsoft.com...
> > > > "Require server verification" was and is unchecked.
> > > >
> > > > Remove any "damaged" objects. Remove any objects - nothing was listed

> as
> > > > damaged and nothing from microsoft or crucial listed at all, just the
> > > > following:-
> > > > Java Runtime Enviroment 1.5.0 (3 0f them all the same version, one

> 4KB,
> > > the
> > > > other 2 noneKB)
> > > > MsnMessenger SetupDownloadControl Class
> > > > Shockwave Active Control
> > > > Shockwave Flash Object
> > > > Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool
> > > >
> > > > All of these have the status of "Installed"
> > > >
> > > > 3rd party products that could be causing problem (but where on my

> other pc
> > > > before I did a rebuild on this one, so should not be) are:-
> > > >
> > > > Microsoft Antispyware
> > > > AVG Free Edition Antivirus
> > > > Linksys Wireless router (this lets my old pc download activeX and my

> work
> > > > Notebook)
> > > >
> > > > I turned off the above 2 and still could not get it to work - however

> I
> > > was
> > > > not asked if I wanted to install ActiveX ("This site might require
> > > the...")
> > > > on the toolbar, it just went straight to "Your security settings do

> not
> > > allow
> > > > Web sites to use ActiveX......"
> > > >
> > > > Same thing when I activeted them again.......on the office.microsoft
> > > update
> > > > site I am not even getting the notification tool bar anymore, it gets

> to
> > > 10%
> > > > then stops.

>
> > > > "Don Varnau" wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > In Internet Options> Security> Trusted Sites> Sites, "Require server
> > > > > verification" should be unchecked.
> > > > >
> > > > > Internet Options> General> Temporary Internet Files> Settings> View
> > > Objects,
> > > > > choose Details view. Remove any "damaged" objects. Remove any

> objects
> > > from
> > > > > crucial.com or microsoft/office update.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you sure that a third-party security/ad-blocking program isn't
> > > blocking
> > > > > scripts, scripting, active content?

>
> > > > > "jomuir" wrote in message
> > > > > news:63686B62-0D70-41F8-A6B4-AC3FAC8EA1FD@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > 4 values are correct, added both to trusted site and still no luck
> > > > > (however
> > > > > > it did seem to take longer to say no - I thought it was working!!)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And the *allow active content to run in files on My computer was
> > > already
> > > > > > ticked.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could this be something more to do with Windows than Internet
> > > Explorer - I
> > > > > > have no idea, just trying to figure it out!!
> > >
> > > > > > "Don Varnau" wrote:
> > > > > > > This script should be safe and will only offer a fix if the

> registry
> > > > > values
> > > > > > > are incorrect:
> > > > > > > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip

> (KB896688_fix.exe;
> > > a
> > > > > small
> > > > > > > VB app that checks the 4 values and offers a repair option if

> any of
> > > > > them
> > > > > > > are incorrect)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Other possibilities:
> > > > > > > Place those sites in Trusted Sites with a wildcard, such as:
> > > > > > > *.crucial.com
> > > > > > > *.microsoft.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A longshot, but try...
> > > > > > > Internet Options> Advanced> Security> check "Allow active

> content to
> > > run
> > > > > in files on My Computer ."
> > >
> > > > > > > "jomuir" <jomuir[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:CD0634DA-59E8-43E5-BF90-C1010D0EADF5@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you for your quick reply!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I tried the first bits in No.1 and unfortunately that did not
> > > work, I
> > > > > did
> > > > > > > > not try number 2 as it points me to:-
> > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216434/
> > > > > > > > and it the bottom where is states what it applies to it does

> not
> > > cover
> > > > > > > > Internet Explorer 6.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any other ideas that might help? Should I do point 2 anyway
> > > (presume
> > > > > > > it will
> > > > > > > > cause no harm to my pc?)
> > >
> > > > > > > > "Don Varnau" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > A recent security update may be causing this. Here's a

> repost of
> > > a
> > > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > > from PA Bear:
> > > > > > > > > - - - -
> > > > > > > > > See:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet
> > > Explorer
> > > > > due to
> > > > > > > > > defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative security
> > > update
> > > > > 896688
> > > > > > > > > (MS05-052) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909889
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Fix: http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip

> (OLEFix.reg)
> > > or
> > > > > > > > > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip
> > > (KB896688_fix.exe;
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > small
> > > > > > > > > VB app that checks the 4 values and offers a repair option

> if
> > > any of
> > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > are incorrect)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2. A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may not
> > > load as
> > > > > > > > > expected in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth

> changes
> > > > > introduced
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > cumulative security update 896688 (MS05-052)
> > > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909738
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > > > > > > > > - - - - - -
> > >
> > > > > > > > > "jomuir" wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news0B15815-FE65-45AA-A265-698EE7BF573B@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > > I cannot access any site with Active X after doing a

> rebuild
> > > with
> > > > > > > > > the latest
> > > > > > > > > > version of Windows XP SP2.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If I go to http://www.crucial.com/uk/systemscanner/ (try

> and
> > > run
> > > > > > > scanner)
> > > > > > > > > OR
> > > > > > > > > > to

> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/of...e/default.aspx
> > > > > (try and run
> > > > > > > > > > check for updates) I get the tool bar:- "This site might
> > > require
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > following ActiveX control: Name. From: Publisher. Click

> here
> > > to
> > > > > > > > > install..."
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So click install Active X
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Then I get "Your security settings do not allow Web sites

> to
> > > use
> > > > > > > ActiveX
> > > > > > > > > > controls installed on your computer. This page may not

> display
> > > > > > > correctly.
> > > > > > > > > > Click here for optionsÃÃâ€*’¢à ƒÆ’Æ’

> ¢â€šÃ†šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ƚ¦"
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I cannot get passed this? I have put all security settings

> in
> > > IE
> > > > > > > to low,
> > > > > > > > > > enabled everything..... then after installing other

> software
> > > etc I
> > > > > > > stopped
> > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > firewalls (hardware and software) even stopped Antivirus

> on
> > > the
> > > > > off chance!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Nothing!!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Even found a site that said they had solved the issue by:-
> > > > > > > > > > > 1. Click Start ->Run and type "regsvr32 Softpub.dll"
> > > (without
> > > > > double
> > > > > > > > > > > quotes)
> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Click okay to register it
> > > > > > > > > > > 3. Do the same re-registration process with the rest of
> > > these
> > > > > ..dll
> > > > > > > > > files:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 softpub.dll (as mentioned above)
> > > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 wintrust.dll
> > > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 initpki.dll
> > > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 urlmon.dll
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 4. Restart your computer and try the update site again

> (or
> > > other
> > > > > > > sites
> > > > > > > > > > > requiring ActiveX to be enabled).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also tried:-
> > > > > > > > > > 1. Click Start, click Run, type cmd in the Open box, and

> then
> > > OK.
> > > > > > > > > > 2. At the command prompt, type the following commands, and
> > > press
> > > > > ENTER
> > > > > > > > > after
> > > > > > > > > > each command:
> > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u softpub.dll
> > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u wintrust.dll
> > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u initpki.dll
> > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u dssenh.dll

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:32 PM
Don Varnau
 
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Default Re: Total ActiveX rejection - Windows XP SP2

Hi,
Sorry. I don't know what to try next...

Maybe there's something in one of these articles that hasn't been tried:

818018- How to troubleshoot problems connecting to Windows Update [ActiveX]:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=818018
870700 - How to troubleshoot problems accessing secure Web pages with IE 6
[XP] SP2: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;870700

Don
[MS MVP- IE]

"jomuir" <jomuir[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4676C459-A722-470E-BC69-D7B0E58A7D63@microsoft.com...
> yes, I changed the cache to 50MB and Internet Options/General Delete
> Cookies, Delete Files and Clear History. Then I logged out and signed in

as
> admin and deleted the actual folder. Rebooted and tried to access these

sites
> again, but with no joy.
>
> Thanks
> J


> "Don Varnau" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > Did you delete the Temporary Internet Files *folder* or just clear out

the
> > files? The TIF folder may be corrupted. Deleting it will allow a new one

to
> > be created. And, the TIF folder (cache) will be less prone to corruption

if
> > you keep it below 100 MB. 50-60 MB is large enough, but not too large

for
> > most users.


> > "jomuir" <jomuir[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:5D22FDC7-5452-493C-8918-57A5CC45F13F@microsoft.com...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Still not joy!! I had to reduce the size to get it to 50MB, it was
> > > automatically set over 2000MB......deleted the files and moved the

slider
> > > (about to move it back) but still no joy.


Varnau" wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Try deleting the Temporary Internet Files folder for the affected

user
> > > > account. Make sure that you can see hidden files (Folder Options>

View)
> > Then
> > > > login as another user with administrator privileges, or from the

> > machine's
> > > > default administrator account (startup in safe mode) and delete the

> > affected
> > > > TIF folder from Windows Explorer. It will be at [C:\Documents and
> > > > Settings\username\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files]
> > > >
> > > > 315222 - A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP:
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=315222
> > > >
> > > > You would not be able to delete this folder when logged in as
> > > > yourself- it's "In use." You should be able to delete it from the
> > > > Administrator account.
> > > >
> > > > It's often recommended that the TIF folder size be set to about 50

MB.
> > > > That's set at Internet Options> General> Temporary Internet Files>

> > Settings.
> > > >
> > > > Also, delete any cookies from Microsoft or Crucial. In Internet

Options>
> > > > Privacy, set the slider to Accept all (briefly- as a test ) or put

these
> > two
> > > > sites in the Always allow list.


> > > > "jomuir" <jomuir[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:8F2C0308-78D2-4524-BC76-C80DEE429F9E@microsoft.com...
> > > > > "Require server verification" was and is unchecked.
> > > > >
> > > > > Remove any "damaged" objects. Remove any objects - nothing was

listed
> > as
> > > > > damaged and nothing from microsoft or crucial listed at all, just

the
> > > > > following:-
> > > > > Java Runtime Enviroment 1.5.0 (3 0f them all the same version, one

> > 4KB,
> > > > the
> > > > > other 2 noneKB)
> > > > > MsnMessenger SetupDownloadControl Class
> > > > > Shockwave Active Control
> > > > > Shockwave Flash Object
> > > > > Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool
> > > > >
> > > > > All of these have the status of "Installed"
> > > > >
> > > > > 3rd party products that could be causing problem (but where on my

> > other pc
> > > > > before I did a rebuild on this one, so should not be) are:-
> > > > >
> > > > > Microsoft Antispyware
> > > > > AVG Free Edition Antivirus
> > > > > Linksys Wireless router (this lets my old pc download activeX and

my
> > work
> > > > > Notebook)
> > > > >
> > > > > I turned off the above 2 and still could not get it to work -

however
> > I
> > > > was
> > > > > not asked if I wanted to install ActiveX ("This site might require
> > > > the...")
> > > > > on the toolbar, it just went straight to "Your security settings

do
> > not
> > > > allow
> > > > > Web sites to use ActiveX......"
> > > > >
> > > > > Same thing when I activeted them again.......on the

office.microsoft
> > > > update
> > > > > site I am not even getting the notification tool bar anymore, it

gets
> > to
> > > > 10%
> > > > > then stops.

> >
> > > > > "Don Varnau" wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > In Internet Options> Security> Trusted Sites> Sites, "Require

server
> > > > > > verification" should be unchecked.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Internet Options> General> Temporary Internet Files> Settings>

View
> > > > Objects,
> > > > > > choose Details view. Remove any "damaged" objects. Remove any

> > objects
> > > > from
> > > > > > crucial.com or microsoft/office update.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you sure that a third-party security/ad-blocking program

isn't
> > > > blocking
> > > > > > scripts, scripting, active content?

> >
> > > > > > "jomuir" wrote in message
> > > > > > news:63686B62-0D70-41F8-A6B4-AC3FAC8EA1FD@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > 4 values are correct, added both to trusted site and still no

luck
> > > > > > (however
> > > > > > > it did seem to take longer to say no - I thought it was

working!!)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And the *allow active content to run in files on My computer

was
> > > > already
> > > > > > > ticked.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Could this be something more to do with Windows than Internet
> > > > Explorer - I have no idea, just trying to figure it out!!


> > > > > > > "Don Varnau" wrote:
> > > > > > > > This script should be safe and will only offer a fix if the

> > registry values are incorrect:
> > > > > > > > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip

> > (KB896688_fix.exe;
> > > > a
> > > > > > small
> > > > > > > > VB app that checks the 4 values and offers a repair option

if
> > any of them are incorrect)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Other possibilities:
> > > > > > > > Place those sites in Trusted Sites with a wildcard, such as:
> > > > > > > > *.crucial.com
> > > > > > > > *.microsoft.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A longshot, but try...
> > > > > > > > Internet Options> Advanced> Security> check "Allow active

> > content to run
> > > > > > in files on My Computer ."


> > > > > > > > "jomuir" <jomuir[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message
> > > > > > > > news:CD0634DA-59E8-43E5-BF90-C1010D0EADF5@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thank you for your quick reply!!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I tried the first bits in No.1 and unfortunately that did

not
> > > > work, I
> > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > > not try number 2 as it points me to:-
> > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216434/
> > > > > > > > > and it the bottom where is states what it applies to it

does
> > not cover Internet Explorer 6.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any other ideas that might help? Should I do point 2

anyway
> > > > (presume
> > > > > > > > it will
> > > > > > > > > cause no harm to my pc?)


> > > > > > > > > "Don Varnau" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > A recent security update may be causing this. Here's a

> > repost of


> > > > > > > > a message
> > > > > > > > > > from PA Bear:
> > > > > > > > > > - - - -
> > > > > > > > > > See:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1. ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet
> > > > Explorer
> > > > > > due to
> > > > > > > > > > defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative

security
> > > > update
> > > > > > 896688
> > > > > > > > > > (MS05-052) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909889
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Fix: http://patch-info.de/IE/Downloads/OLEfix.zip

> > (OLEFix.reg)
> > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/kb896688_fix.zip
> > > > (KB896688_fix.exe;
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > small
> > > > > > > > > > VB app that checks the 4 values and offers a repair

option
> > if
> > > > any of
> > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > > are incorrect)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2. A Web page that contains a custom ActiveX control may

not
> > > > load as
> > > > > > > > > > expected in Internet Explorer due to defense in depth

> > changes
> > > > > > introduced
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > cumulative security update 896688 (MS05-052)
> > > > > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909738
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > > > > > > > > > - - - - - -
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "jomuir" wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > >

news0B15815-FE65-45AA-A265-698EE7BF573B@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > > > I cannot access any site with Active X after doing a

> > rebuild
> > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > the latest
> > > > > > > > > > > version of Windows XP SP2.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If I go to http://www.crucial.com/uk/systemscanner/

(try
> > and
> > > > run
> > > > > > > > scanner)
> > > > > > > > > > OR
> > > > > > > > > > > to

> > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/of...e/default.aspx
> > > > > > (try and run
> > > > > > > > > > > check for updates) I get the tool bar:- "This site

might
> > > > require
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > following ActiveX control: Name. From: Publisher.

Click
> > here
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > install..."
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > So click install Active X
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Then I get "Your security settings do not allow Web

sites
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > > > > > ActiveX
> > > > > > > > > > > controls installed on your computer. This page may not

> > display
> > > > > > > > correctly.
> > > > > > > > > > > Click here for optionsÃÃ

‚¢Ã
> > ¢â€šÆšÃ‚¬Ã

ƒâ€šÃ‚¦"
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I cannot get passed this? I have put all security

settings
> > in
> > > > IE
> > > > > > > > to low,
> > > > > > > > > > > enabled everything..... then after installing other

> > software
> > > > etc I
> > > > > > > > stopped
> > > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > firewalls (hardware and software) even stopped

Antivirus
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > off chance!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Nothing!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Even found a site that said they had solved the issue

by:-
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Click Start ->Run and type "regsvr32 Softpub.dll"
> > > > (without double quotes)
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Click okay to register it
> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Do the same re-registration process with the rest

of
> > > > these
> > > > > > ..dll
> > > > > > > > > > files:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 softpub.dll (as mentioned above)
> > > > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 wintrust.dll
> > > > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 initpki.dll
> > > > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 urlmon.dll
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Restart your computer and try the update site

again
> > (or other sites requiring ActiveX to be enabled).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Also tried:-
> > > > > > > > > > > 1. Click Start, click Run, type cmd in the Open box,

and
> > then OK.
> > > > > > > > > > > 2. At the command prompt, type the following commands,

and
> > > > press ENTER
> > > > > > > > > > after
> > > > > > > > > > > each command:
> > > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u softpub.dll
> > > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u wintrust.dll
> > > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u initpki.dll
> > > > > > > > > > > regsvr32 /u dssenh.dll


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Old 01-05-2006, 04:32 PM
Robert Aldwinckle
 
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Default Re: Total ActiveX rejection - Windows XP SP2

"jomuir" <jomuir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:63686B62-0D70-41F8-A6B4-AC3FAC8EA1FD@microsoft.com...
>4 values are correct, added both to trusted site and still no luck (however
> it did seem to take longer to say no - I thought it was working!!)



Use the Privacy Report (e.g. press Alt-V,v)
to see if all the domains referred to are trusted.

Otherwise it may help to be more specific about your symptoms
while discussing a specific example. You can break down the
process of rendering a page by using maximal prompting,
e.g. by modifying the Security settings so that any setting which
is currently enabled is changed to a prompt.

In addition when a prompt occurs you will be able to take note
of any other changes which have happened between prompts.
In particular you can be more aware of changes in the Status bar,
Title bar, and Address bar; so it is a good idea to do your testing
in a maximized window to be able to capture as much of that information
as possible.

To provide maximum prompting safely I suggest you change only settings
which are currently Enabled (e.g. Green dot beside the Enable choice.)
The procedure I use then to do this is:
1. doubleclick on the security zone icon in the IE status bar
(to open the Security settings dialog)
2. click Default Level (to reset settings to Medium)
3. click on Custom Level
4. press P (finds the first/next Prompt choice)
5. if Enable for that option is green press Space
(changes the Enable choice to Prompt)
6. repeat to 4 through 5 to the end of the list.

When you are through testing repeat steps 1 and 2.


Note: the above diagnostic is especially useful when you know
what a successful sequence of prompts for a particular site should look like.
That's why I suggest discussing a particular example. Then others can
tell you where your sequence diverges from theirs. Etc.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:32 PM
jomuir
 
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Default Re: Total ActiveX rejection - Windows XP SP2

Not too sure what I am doing, but clicked on one of the initial links and
ended up looking through files (not making changes or saving anything!!):-

So in System Information/Tool/Dr Watson....Application error:-
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe c0000005 flash(1001CFD3)


Moire info:-
Application exception occurred:
App: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (pid=752)
When: 13/12/2005 @ 20:33:44.281
Exception number: c0000005 (access violation)

Could this have anythign to do withn it? I will continue to read through
both the replies...

Thanks



"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> "jomuir" <jomuir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:63686B62-0D70-41F8-A6B4-AC3FAC8EA1FD@microsoft.com...
> >4 values are correct, added both to trusted site and still no luck (however
> > it did seem to take longer to say no - I thought it was working!!)

>
>
> Use the Privacy Report (e.g. press Alt-V,v)
> to see if all the domains referred to are trusted.
>
> Otherwise it may help to be more specific about your symptoms
> while discussing a specific example. You can break down the
> process of rendering a page by using maximal prompting,
> e.g. by modifying the Security settings so that any setting which
> is currently enabled is changed to a prompt.
>
> In addition when a prompt occurs you will be able to take note
> of any other changes which have happened between prompts.
> In particular you can be more aware of changes in the Status bar,
> Title bar, and Address bar; so it is a good idea to do your testing
> in a maximized window to be able to capture as much of that information
> as possible.
>
> To provide maximum prompting safely I suggest you change only settings
> which are currently Enabled (e.g. Green dot beside the Enable choice.)
> The procedure I use then to do this is:
> 1. doubleclick on the security zone icon in the IE status bar
> (to open the Security settings dialog)
> 2. click Default Level (to reset settings to Medium)
> 3. click on Custom Level
> 4. press P (finds the first/next Prompt choice)
> 5. if Enable for that option is green press Space
> (changes the Enable choice to Prompt)
> 6. repeat to 4 through 5 to the end of the list.
>
> When you are through testing repeat steps 1 and 2.
>
>
> Note: the above diagnostic is especially useful when you know
> what a successful sequence of prompts for a particular site should look like.
> That's why I suggest discussing a particular example. Then others can
> tell you where your sequence diverges from theirs. Etc.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>
>
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:32 PM
Robert Aldwinckle
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Total ActiveX rejection - Windows XP SP2

"jomuir" <jomuir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:56979A88-AA6E-4327-9B2C-830C2CDE2D8E@microsoft.com...
> Not too sure what I am doing, but clicked on one of the initial links and
> ended up looking through files (not making changes or saving anything!!):-
>
> So in System Information/Tool/Dr Watson....Application error:-
> C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe c0000005 flash(1001CFD3)



Ok. I guess you have been reading some of my replies to others? ;}

This shows that the crashing module is flash
BTW was there no extension listed? E.g. flash.ocx perhaps?

Don already had you looking at View Objects to remove damaged ones.
Now that you know which one is involved in a crash perhaps you should
remove it too even if it doesn't show as damaged. After you remove it
and go to a site which features Flash content you should be prompted
to go to the Macromedia site (assuming it is still called that.) to download
the latest version of the plugin.


>
>
> Moire info:-
> Application exception occurred:
> App: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe (pid=752)
> When: 13/12/2005 @ 20:33:44.281
> Exception number: c0000005 (access violation)



This shows that you have found a drwtsn32.log (or viewed and copied
the first few lines of a dump using drwtsn32.exe). The most useful part
is the Stack Back Trace which follows the line prefixed by FAULT ->
(in an English dump). Please don't post a whole dump to the newsgroup.

In this case it would just be additional detail to show how the crash in
flash.ocx was occurring.


>
> Could this have anythign to do withn it? I will continue to read through
> both the replies...



Try getting rid of the Flash object you have now
and see if your symptoms change.

BTW I can find only an indirect reference to flash.ocx
using the Shockwave Flash Object Properties, General tab.
E.g. on mine I see ID: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000}
I had to take that CLSID, open RegEdit and do a find in there for a key
which is named that. Then expand that to show its InprocServer32 subkey.
That subkey contains a direct full reference to the flash.ocx module.


Good luck

Robert
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