I Norton 'Ghost'ed my C:\ boot drive onto a drive on my 2nd hd, on the 15th,
(a couple of days ago), after putting it off for WEEEEeeeeeks, and earlier
on tonight I was having a rummage around the web and went to
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083630/
and clicked on the "view trailer" link and stupidly? "permitted" several
ActiveX controls ....and added imdb.com into IE6's trusted sites zone
and into the "Web Content" list in my Norton firewall and allowed scripting
and almost everything else so that I could see the movie trailer. I then
got onto some other site ...videodetective.com I think it was.

I'm guessing that some sort of malicious IE6 plugin was installed, because
after I'd seen the wrong trailer !!!! I removed imdb.com from IE6 trusted
sites and from Norton firewall (so that my very high security settings were
restored), and ended up with my IE6 not working. i.e. IE6's white "Page
cannot be displayed."

There is so much thoughtless and maliciously configured crap out there, and
web site designers, and that huge industry in consumer statistics data
collection etc. who have all had free-reign to rummage around inside peoples
PC's, (as they have done for decades), are responsible for a growing number
of people who now simply don't want to get into web sites that give you a
"done" on IE6's status bar - and an empty browser window. We just go
somewhere else.

SOOOooooo I booted from Norton Ghost 9's recovery cd and restored my C:\
image from J:\ and all is hunky -dory !

.....so there you are, don't put off your Ghost'ing for WEEEEeeeeeeeks !! DO
IT NOW !

....and while you're at it, update your hosts file from
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

.....yank your IE6 and firewall security up to HIGH and don't drop it for
anybody. I know it's annoying to have to keep tweaking into IE6's trusted
sites zone and firewall etc. to get functionality from sites that one trusts
not hurl malicious content into your browser window but, that's better than
getting a crippled IE6.

best regards, Richard

I followed the link you posted and went to the site you mentioned and viewed
the trailer you were trying to find and - nothing bad happened.

Yes there are some ads I wouldn't touch but nothing tried anything malicious
on here. I was not asked to download any ActiveX or anything like it...

As you said in your post you are "Guessing".

What has happened here is that you have become another victim of Norton's
hype, and Norton has broken something. Let's run thorough your actions.

You altered IE settings you don't normally alter, you altered Norton
settings you don't normally alter, and then you alter everything some more,
and IE stops working.

Then you advise others like this:-

> I know it's annoying to have to keep tweaking into IE6's trusted sites
> zone and firewall etc. to get functionality from sites that one trusts not
> hurl malicious content into your browser window but, that's better than
> getting a crippled IE6.

and yet your own "Tweaking" appear to be the clear cause of your recent
problems.

There have been updates in the last couple of days... in your enthusiasm to
take every security precaution possible I assume you have already been to
the Microsoft update site and restored the updates you "Ghost" will have
effectively removed... er they were up to date before this happened weren't
they?

Charlie




"RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O9YvXFDBGHA.3916@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I Norton 'Ghost'ed my C:\ boot drive onto a drive on my 2nd hd, on the
>15th, (a couple of days ago), after putting it off for WEEEEeeeeeks, and
>earlier on tonight I was having a rummage around the web and went to
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083630/
> and clicked on the "view trailer" link and stupidly? "permitted" several
> ActiveX controls ....and added imdb.com into IE6's trusted sites zone
> and into the "Web Content" list in my Norton firewall and allowed
> scripting and almost everything else so that I could see the movie
> trailer. I then got onto some other site ...videodetective.com I think
> it was.
>
> I'm guessing that some sort of malicious IE6 plugin was installed, because
> after I'd seen the wrong trailer !!!! I removed imdb.com from IE6
> trusted sites and from Norton firewall (so that my very high security
> settings were restored), and ended up with my IE6 not working. i.e. IE6's
> white "Page cannot be displayed."
>
> There is so much thoughtless and maliciously configured crap out there,
> and web site designers, and that huge industry in consumer statistics data
> collection etc. who have all had free-reign to rummage around inside
> peoples PC's, (as they have done for decades), are responsible for a
> growing number of people who now simply don't want to get into web sites
> that give you a "done" on IE6's status bar - and an empty browser window.
> We just go somewhere else.
>
> SOOOooooo I booted from Norton Ghost 9's recovery cd and restored my C:\
> image from J:\ and all is hunky -dory !
>
> ....so there you are, don't put off your Ghost'ing for WEEEEeeeeeeeks !!
> DO IT NOW !
>
> ...and while you're at it, update your hosts file from
> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
>
> ....yank your IE6 and firewall security up to HIGH and don't drop it for
> anybody. I know it's annoying to have to keep tweaking into IE6's trusted
> sites zone and firewall etc. to get functionality from sites that one
> trusts not hurl malicious content into your browser window but, that's
> better than getting a crippled IE6.
>
> best regards, Richard
>

Got another idea. Make a user that has no permissions and another that has
all permissions. Then browse the web as you see fit in one or the other
users. That is actually the only sure fire way of prohibiting the nasties.

--

George Hester
_________________________________
"RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O9YvXFDBGHA.3916@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I Norton 'Ghost'ed my C:\ boot drive onto a drive on my 2nd hd, on the
15th,
> (a couple of days ago), after putting it off for WEEEEeeeeeks, and earlier
> on tonight I was having a rummage around the web and went to
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083630/
> and clicked on the "view trailer" link and stupidly? "permitted" several
> ActiveX controls ....and added imdb.com into IE6's trusted sites zone
> and into the "Web Content" list in my Norton firewall and allowed
scripting
> and almost everything else so that I could see the movie trailer. I then
> got onto some other site ...videodetective.com I think it was.
>
> I'm guessing that some sort of malicious IE6 plugin was installed, because
> after I'd seen the wrong trailer !!!! I removed imdb.com from IE6
trusted
> sites and from Norton firewall (so that my very high security settings
were
> restored), and ended up with my IE6 not working. i.e. IE6's white "Page
> cannot be displayed."
>
> There is so much thoughtless and maliciously configured crap out there,
and
> web site designers, and that huge industry in consumer statistics data
> collection etc. who have all had free-reign to rummage around inside
peoples
> PC's, (as they have done for decades), are responsible for a growing
number
> of people who now simply don't want to get into web sites that give you a
> "done" on IE6's status bar - and an empty browser window. We just go
> somewhere else.
>
> SOOOooooo I booted from Norton Ghost 9's recovery cd and restored my C:\
> image from J:\ and all is hunky -dory !
>
> ....so there you are, don't put off your Ghost'ing for WEEEEeeeeeeeks !!
DO
> IT NOW !
>
> ...and while you're at it, update your hosts file from
> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
>
> ....yank your IE6 and firewall security up to HIGH and don't drop it for
> anybody. I know it's annoying to have to keep tweaking into IE6's trusted
> sites zone and firewall etc. to get functionality from sites that one
trusts
> not hurl malicious content into your browser window but, that's better
than
> getting a crippled IE6.
>
> best regards, Richard
>
>

Which is of no use at all if you are then going to switch users just to find
out what it is that's being blocked is it... ???

Is that not the same as the actions the OP took?

Charlie

"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:egVldTEBGHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Got another idea. Make a user that has no permissions and another that has
> all permissions. Then browse the web as you see fit in one or the other
> users. That is actually the only sure fire way of prohibiting the nasties.
>
> --
>
> George Hester
> _________________________________
> "RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O9YvXFDBGHA.3916@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> I Norton 'Ghost'ed my C:\ boot drive onto a drive on my 2nd hd, on the
> 15th,
>> (a couple of days ago), after putting it off for WEEEEeeeeeks, and
>> earlier
>> on tonight I was having a rummage around the web and went to
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083630/
>> and clicked on the "view trailer" link and stupidly? "permitted" several
>> ActiveX controls ....and added imdb.com into IE6's trusted sites zone
>> and into the "Web Content" list in my Norton firewall and allowed
> scripting
>> and almost everything else so that I could see the movie trailer. I then
>> got onto some other site ...videodetective.com I think it was.
>>
>> I'm guessing that some sort of malicious IE6 plugin was installed,
>> because
>> after I'd seen the wrong trailer !!!! I removed imdb.com from IE6
> trusted
>> sites and from Norton firewall (so that my very high security settings
> were
>> restored), and ended up with my IE6 not working. i.e. IE6's white
>> "Page
>> cannot be displayed."
>>
>> There is so much thoughtless and maliciously configured crap out there,
> and
>> web site designers, and that huge industry in consumer statistics data
>> collection etc. who have all had free-reign to rummage around inside
> peoples
>> PC's, (as they have done for decades), are responsible for a growing
> number
>> of people who now simply don't want to get into web sites that give you a
>> "done" on IE6's status bar - and an empty browser window. We just go
>> somewhere else.
>>
>> SOOOooooo I booted from Norton Ghost 9's recovery cd and restored my C:\
>> image from J:\ and all is hunky -dory !
>>
>> ....so there you are, don't put off your Ghost'ing for WEEEEeeeeeeeks !!
> DO
>> IT NOW !
>>
>> ...and while you're at it, update your hosts file from
>> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
>>
>> ....yank your IE6 and firewall security up to HIGH and don't drop it for
>> anybody. I know it's annoying to have to keep tweaking into IE6's
>> trusted
>> sites zone and firewall etc. to get functionality from sites that one
> trusts
>> not hurl malicious content into your browser window but, that's better
> than
>> getting a crippled IE6.
>>
>> best regards, Richard
>>
>>
>

Yes, early Monday a.m. is my normal time for image backups on a weekly
basis.

Don't know about your firewall, by mine opting for a trust at a website,
will never bother you again for access permissions for that particular
website. I never saw any evidence of reason to trust in your post.

ActiveX or any other windows interactive software can be used legitimately
or otherwise. This should be considered when asked to allow/disallow such.

I don't depend on NAV or ZA Pro for blocking/detecting keyloggers, web habit
tracking cookies, etc. Other specialized software installed for that,
thanks.

Yep, imaging your hard drive(s) on a regular and often basis can get you out
of bind when restoring is needed of that image.

Sorry about your misfortune.
--
Jonny
"RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O9YvXFDBGHA.3916@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I Norton 'Ghost'ed my C:\ boot drive onto a drive on my 2nd hd, on the
15th,
> (a couple of days ago), after putting it off for WEEEEeeeeeks, and earlier
> on tonight I was having a rummage around the web and went to
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083630/
> and clicked on the "view trailer" link and stupidly? "permitted" several
> ActiveX controls ....and added imdb.com into IE6's trusted sites zone
> and into the "Web Content" list in my Norton firewall and allowed
scripting
> and almost everything else so that I could see the movie trailer. I then
> got onto some other site ...videodetective.com I think it was.
>
> I'm guessing that some sort of malicious IE6 plugin was installed, because
> after I'd seen the wrong trailer !!!! I removed imdb.com from IE6
trusted
> sites and from Norton firewall (so that my very high security settings
were
> restored), and ended up with my IE6 not working. i.e. IE6's white "Page
> cannot be displayed."
>
> There is so much thoughtless and maliciously configured crap out there,
and
> web site designers, and that huge industry in consumer statistics data
> collection etc. who have all had free-reign to rummage around inside
peoples
> PC's, (as they have done for decades), are responsible for a growing
number
> of people who now simply don't want to get into web sites that give you a
> "done" on IE6's status bar - and an empty browser window. We just go
> somewhere else.
>
> SOOOooooo I booted from Norton Ghost 9's recovery cd and restored my C:\
> image from J:\ and all is hunky -dory !
>
> ....so there you are, don't put off your Ghost'ing for WEEEEeeeeeeeks !!
DO
> IT NOW !
>
> ...and while you're at it, update your hosts file from
> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
>
> ....yank your IE6 and firewall security up to HIGH and don't drop it for
> anybody. I know it's annoying to have to keep tweaking into IE6's trusted
> sites zone and firewall etc. to get functionality from sites that one
trusts
> not hurl malicious content into your browser window but, that's better
than
> getting a crippled IE6.
>
> best regards, Richard
>
>

I have to agree with Charlie. Plus his answer was written in a way not to
offend anyone. He should be a MVP.
If I am at a website and it asks to download something I ALWAYs choose "NO".
Or use the "X" box if available.
If IE6 can't view the page with the way I have it set? I do not need to be
there.
Hope everyone has a great Christmas!

"RJK" wrote:

> I Norton 'Ghost'ed my C:\ boot drive onto a drive on my 2nd hd, on the 15th,
> (a couple of days ago), after putting it off for WEEEEeeeeeks, and earlier
> on tonight I was having a rummage around the web and went to
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083630/
> and clicked on the "view trailer" link and stupidly? "permitted" several
> ActiveX controls ....and added imdb.com into IE6's trusted sites zone
> and into the "Web Content" list in my Norton firewall and allowed scripting
> and almost everything else so that I could see the movie trailer. I then
> got onto some other site ...videodetective.com I think it was.
>
> I'm guessing that some sort of malicious IE6 plugin was installed, because
> after I'd seen the wrong trailer !!!! I removed imdb.com from IE6 trusted
> sites and from Norton firewall (so that my very high security settings were
> restored), and ended up with my IE6 not working. i.e. IE6's white "Page
> cannot be displayed."
>
> There is so much thoughtless and maliciously configured crap out there, and
> web site designers, and that huge industry in consumer statistics data
> collection etc. who have all had free-reign to rummage around inside peoples
> PC's, (as they have done for decades), are responsible for a growing number
> of people who now simply don't want to get into web sites that give you a
> "done" on IE6's status bar - and an empty browser window. We just go
> somewhere else.
>
> SOOOooooo I booted from Norton Ghost 9's recovery cd and restored my C:\
> image from J:\ and all is hunky -dory !
>
> .....so there you are, don't put off your Ghost'ing for WEEEEeeeeeeeks !! DO
> IT NOW !
>
> ....and while you're at it, update your hosts file from
> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
>
> .....yank your IE6 and firewall security up to HIGH and don't drop it for
> anybody. I know it's annoying to have to keep tweaking into IE6's trusted
> sites zone and firewall etc. to get functionality from sites that one trusts
> not hurl malicious content into your browser window but, that's better than
> getting a crippled IE6.
>
> best regards, Richard
>
>
>

Hehe, I am an MVP actually, and yes I believe you have the safest answer.
Good basic settings do not restrict your surfing too much and protect you
from all but the worst attacks. If something a website requests would
involve changing those settings then the webmaster is either a jackass or he
is up to something. Changing the settings is rather like keeping the car
doors locked to thwart car jackers and then unlocking them when someone
approaches the car

In fact I do alter my settings from time to time when investigating
problems - can't investigate properly without doing that, but I never allow
unsigned activex without first establishing what it's for and ignore pop
ups. Mostly it's the silly things like smiley face junk which trick people
into voluntarily downloading crapware.

As for what happened to the OP's machine who knows... we all know backups
are a good idea, but he will never know what caused his problem and I am
pretty sure it was nothing to do with IMDB. Having said that I would not put
IMDB in the trusted zone with no restrictions. I've been to perfectly
reputable company websites where they have hired a webmaster and discovered
that the webmaster, without the owner's knowledge, has added little
"Fundraisers" like hit counters that install spyware. I usually advise the
owner that their website installs crap and thank you very much but I won't
be shopping there until it's cleaned up. Most times the owners are horrified
and act to rectify the problem, if they don't - well - up to them if they
don't want business. What that means is that you have to be very careful
what sites you trust, whether the owner is trustworthy or not.

I use Yahoo messenger, but when installing it there's a set of choices
whether to install their damned toolbar or "Companion" or whatever they call
the thing. If you say no on one page it pops up checked again on the next
page... you have to say no twice. That annoys me but the danger has nothing
to do with settings, it has everything to do with reading what you are
letting yourself in for

Oh well, each to his own, besides which "Ghost" has broken machines a couple
of times so thanks very much but no thanks

Charlie


"poatt" <poatt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C40A8D66-FB89-4F66-9E31-49CF1AB2161B@microsoft.com...
> I have to agree with Charlie. Plus his answer was written in a way not to
> offend anyone. He should be a MVP.
> If I am at a website and it asks to download something I ALWAYs choose
> "NO".
> Or use the "X" box if available.
> If IE6 can't view the page with the way I have it set? I do not need to be
> there.
> Hope everyone has a great Christmas!
>
> "RJK" wrote:
>
>> I Norton 'Ghost'ed my C:\ boot drive onto a drive on my 2nd hd, on the
>> 15th,
>> (a couple of days ago), after putting it off for WEEEEeeeeeks, and
>> earlier
>> on tonight I was having a rummage around the web and went to
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083630/
>> and clicked on the "view trailer" link and stupidly? "permitted" several
>> ActiveX controls ....and added imdb.com into IE6's trusted sites zone
>> and into the "Web Content" list in my Norton firewall and allowed
>> scripting
>> and almost everything else so that I could see the movie trailer. I then
>> got onto some other site ...videodetective.com I think it was.
>>
>> I'm guessing that some sort of malicious IE6 plugin was installed,
>> because
>> after I'd seen the wrong trailer !!!! I removed imdb.com from IE6
>> trusted
>> sites and from Norton firewall (so that my very high security settings
>> were
>> restored), and ended up with my IE6 not working. i.e. IE6's white
>> "Page
>> cannot be displayed."
>>
>> There is so much thoughtless and maliciously configured crap out there,
>> and
>> web site designers, and that huge industry in consumer statistics data
>> collection etc. who have all had free-reign to rummage around inside
>> peoples
>> PC's, (as they have done for decades), are responsible for a growing
>> number
>> of people who now simply don't want to get into web sites that give you a
>> "done" on IE6's status bar - and an empty browser window. We just go
>> somewhere else.
>>
>> SOOOooooo I booted from Norton Ghost 9's recovery cd and restored my C:\
>> image from J:\ and all is hunky -dory !
>>
>> .....so there you are, don't put off your Ghost'ing for WEEEEeeeeeeeks !!
>> DO
>> IT NOW !
>>
>> ....and while you're at it, update your hosts file from
>> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
>>
>> .....yank your IE6 and firewall security up to HIGH and don't drop it for
>> anybody. I know it's annoying to have to keep tweaking into IE6's
>> trusted
>> sites zone and firewall etc. to get functionality from sites that one
>> trusts
>> not hurl malicious content into your browser window but, that's better
>> than
>> getting a crippled IE6.
>>
>> best regards, Richard
>>
>>
>>

RJK wrote:
>
> I Norton 'Ghost'ed my C:\ boot drive onto a drive on my 2nd hd, on the 15th,
> (a couple of days ago), after putting it off for WEEEEeeeeeks, and earlier
> on tonight I was having a rummage around the web and went to

Contact Symantec for Symantec problems.


--
http://www.bootdisk.com/

Well Hello !!

What a varied bunch of views !

I should have mentioned that while at imdb I did click on a link off to
another site somewhere. As I'd ghosted just a couple of days 'ago' it was
quickest for me to restore that ghost image. Normally I'd have spent time
pining it down but, had other things to do ! ...thank you very much for
pointing out that I'll never know what it was - I KNOW THAT !!

imho there is no such thing as "good basic settings," the only way to go is
the "multi-layered" approach to internet security with EVERYTHING set to
'block' and 'high'
....meaning that one has to do a little work to allow a particular site to
fully load in ones browser window e.g. heavily scripted sites. ...
http://cquirke.mvps.org/ I suspect
has some views on this ! ...where is he when you need him !! ??

regards, Richard


"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:%23rXioXQBGHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Hehe, I am an MVP actually, and yes I believe you have the safest answer.
> Good basic settings do not restrict your surfing too much and protect you
> from all but the worst attacks. If something a website requests would
> involve changing those settings then the webmaster is either a jackass or
> he is up to something. Changing the settings is rather like keeping the
> car doors locked to thwart car jackers and then unlocking them when
> someone approaches the car
>
> In fact I do alter my settings from time to time when investigating
> problems - can't investigate properly without doing that, but I never
> allow unsigned activex without first establishing what it's for and ignore
> pop ups. Mostly it's the silly things like smiley face junk which trick
> people into voluntarily downloading crapware.
>
> As for what happened to the OP's machine who knows... we all know backups
> are a good idea, but he will never know what caused his problem and I am
> pretty sure it was nothing to do with IMDB. Having said that I would not
> put IMDB in the trusted zone with no restrictions. I've been to perfectly
> reputable company websites where they have hired a webmaster and
> discovered that the webmaster, without the owner's knowledge, has added
> little "Fundraisers" like hit counters that install spyware. I usually
> advise the owner that their website installs crap and thank you very much
> but I won't be shopping there until it's cleaned up. Most times the owners
> are horrified and act to rectify the problem, if they don't - well - up to
> them if they don't want business. What that means is that you have to be
> very careful what sites you trust, whether the owner is trustworthy or
> not.
>
> I use Yahoo messenger, but when installing it there's a set of choices
> whether to install their damned toolbar or "Companion" or whatever they
> call the thing. If you say no on one page it pops up checked again on the
> next page... you have to say no twice. That annoys me but the danger has
> nothing to do with settings, it has everything to do with reading what you
> are letting yourself in for
>
> Oh well, each to his own, besides which "Ghost" has broken machines a
> couple of times so thanks very much but no thanks
>
> Charlie
>
>
> "poatt" <poatt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C40A8D66-FB89-4F66-9E31-49CF1AB2161B@microsoft.com...
>> I have to agree with Charlie. Plus his answer was written in a way not to
>> offend anyone. He should be a MVP.
>> If I am at a website and it asks to download something I ALWAYs choose
>> "NO".
>> Or use the "X" box if available.
>> If IE6 can't view the page with the way I have it set? I do not need to
>> be
>> there.
>> Hope everyone has a great Christmas!
>>
>> "RJK" wrote:
>>
>>> I Norton 'Ghost'ed my C:\ boot drive onto a drive on my 2nd hd, on the
>>> 15th,
>>> (a couple of days ago), after putting it off for WEEEEeeeeeks, and
>>> earlier
>>> on tonight I was having a rummage around the web and went to
>>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083630/
>>> and clicked on the "view trailer" link and stupidly? "permitted" several
>>> ActiveX controls ....and added imdb.com into IE6's trusted sites
>>> zone
>>> and into the "Web Content" list in my Norton firewall and allowed
>>> scripting
>>> and almost everything else so that I could see the movie trailer. I
>>> then
>>> got onto some other site ...videodetective.com I think it was.
>>>
>>> I'm guessing that some sort of malicious IE6 plugin was installed,
>>> because
>>> after I'd seen the wrong trailer !!!! I removed imdb.com from IE6
>>> trusted
>>> sites and from Norton firewall (so that my very high security settings
>>> were
>>> restored), and ended up with my IE6 not working. i.e. IE6's white
>>> "Page
>>> cannot be displayed."
>>>
>>> There is so much thoughtless and maliciously configured crap out there,
>>> and
>>> web site designers, and that huge industry in consumer statistics data
>>> collection etc. who have all had free-reign to rummage around inside
>>> peoples
>>> PC's, (as they have done for decades), are responsible for a growing
>>> number
>>> of people who now simply don't want to get into web sites that give you
>>> a
>>> "done" on IE6's status bar - and an empty browser window. We just go
>>> somewhere else.
>>>
>>> SOOOooooo I booted from Norton Ghost 9's recovery cd and restored my C:\
>>> image from J:\ and all is hunky -dory !
>>>
>>> .....so there you are, don't put off your Ghost'ing for WEEEEeeeeeeeks
>>> !! DO
>>> IT NOW !
>>>
>>> ....and while you're at it, update your hosts file from
>>> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
>>>
>>> .....yank your IE6 and firewall security up to HIGH and don't drop it
>>> for
>>> anybody. I know it's annoying to have to keep tweaking into IE6's
>>> trusted
>>> sites zone and firewall etc. to get functionality from sites that one
>>> trusts
>>> not hurl malicious content into your browser window but, that's better
>>> than
>>> getting a crippled IE6.
>>>
>>> best regards, Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

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"RJK" <notatospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23VSj1ZxBGHA.2084@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Well Hello !!
>
> What a varied bunch of views !
>
> I should have mentioned that while at imdb I did click on a link off to
> another site somewhere. As I'd ghosted just a couple of days 'ago' it was
> quickest for me to restore that ghost image. Normally I'd have spent time
> pining it down but, had other things to do ! ...thank you very much for
> pointing out that I'll never know what it was - I KNOW THAT !!
>
> imho there is no such thing as "good basic settings," the only way to go
> is the "multi-layered" approach to internet security with EVERYTHING set
> to 'block' and 'high'

Unfortunately for that approach to work you have to know what you are doing
on several levels, and most people want to "Use" a computer not analyze it.
If we aim too secure then people will find it difficult to deal with and
undo the settings, most likely undoing more than was insecure in the first
place.

There are some "Basic" settings that should not be undone except in very
specific situations, for example unsigned activex should NEVER be fully
enabled in the internet zone, the zones are put there and given "Obvious
sounding" names so the average "User" does not have to understand all the
individual bits and pieces. I personally tell people to use the trusted zone
where possible instead of lowering settings for all sites in the internet
zone in an attempt to avoid the situation where they will see all the
activex settings and turn them all on because they are not sure which is
relevant. If they don't know then best they don't turn things on, right? Of
course this is not helped by MS's unfortunate habit of using the words
"Allow" and "Enable" in strange contexts. Some settings you "Enable" some
function that actually "Disables" something else, and they then refer to
"Signed" activex and "Activex not marked as safe" instead of "Unsigned"....

Remember the jdbmgr virus? Some helpful guy found his jdbmgr.exe file was
infected, figured that the file itself "Was" the virus and had thousands of
people delete a perfectly valid system component. To be honest when one sees
a post that says "I went here and something happened so you must do..." it
is less helpful than it could be IF we can track down the precise cause. I
apologise if my reply came across as critical or condescending - there was
nothing wrong with the advice.

Charlie