"BJ Honeycut" <freaf@dontgothere.us> wrote in message
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> "Shane" <shanebeatson@gmail.com> wrote in
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>
>>
>> "BJ Honeycut" <freaf@dontgothere.us> wrote in message
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>>> "Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:u0d6gET9FHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:
>>>
>>>> The tradeoff for integration between Outlook and Address Book is
>>>> that it precludes your using identities in Address Book. If you are
>>>> using Outlook integration and you display the Folders And Groups
>>>> pane in Address Book, you see the subfolders of your Outlook
>>>> Contacts folder instead of your shared contacts and personal
>>>> contacts.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the clarification Jim. I never ran into that one because
>>> every user has a separate PST, but good to know.
>>>
>>
>> I don't run into that problem, I guess, 'cos I still use Outlook 2000!
>> I've got the one address book shared between the two across three
>> systems, it's great. Much better to do one's importing/exporting from
>> OE though.
>>
>> What's the advantage of Office XP anyway?
>>
>>
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>
> None to me, still on 2000 also. When I change it will be to open office or
> something similar. I just don't see the need for MS integration anymore.
>

Right!


Shane

Noel,
After long delays and much frustration, I have tried your solution to
the issue of disappearing sound:
(I've been pinged for not quoting prior text. Apologies, because I
thought using the Google Groups "reply" feature kept the provenance
alive. You suggested
>WRT to your Sound issues. - try this
>Reboot to Safe Mode
>Open Device Manager
>Remove ALL Sound &Multimedia devices
>Remove ALL error-flagged devices
>Remove ALL entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present
>Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers,
hopefully curing your problem.

I did all of above. Sure enough, when I rebooted, the system went and
reloaded the drivers I needed and the sound worked fine. Logging in
and out of various user accounts didn't disturb the sound function.
However, when I restarted, the sound was gone again.

Without going to Safe Mode, I removed the "SoundMax Integrate Digital
Audio" device from the "sound, video and game controllers" category of
the Device Manager. When I rebooted, the system found the sound
drivers and I had my sound again. But restarting WinME again caused
sound to disappear.

This makes my (unsophisticated) mind think that there is something
going on during the Start Up sequence that disables the sound. I can
still see the SoundMax device in Properties, I am being told the device
is working properly, and I see a slew of drivers loaded. But no sound.

Does this raise any possibilities of where the gremlin might be?

Thanks for your continuing interest.

Brian

Just a quick thought if I may. I can't help but wonder if the registry is
damaged in some way and that when rebooting an older version is being
loaded. Out of curiosity could you look in the folder
C:\windows\sysbckup and see if it contains a file with a name something
like RBBAD.CAB and if so does either the last modified or create date
match the time when you last booted?

Note that C:\windows\sysbckup is a hidden system folder and to view this
folder using Windows Explorer you will have first to use Tools | Folder
Options | View and check "Show hidden files and folders" and perhaps also
uncheck "Hide protected operating system files", and then click Apply and
OK.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


BrianZ <beezer000@gmail.com> wrote:

> Noel,
> After long delays and much frustration, I have tried your solution to
> the issue of disappearing sound:
> (I've been pinged for not quoting prior text. Apologies, because I
> thought using the Google Groups "reply" feature kept the provenance
> alive. You suggested
>> WRT to your Sound issues. - try this
>> Reboot to Safe Mode
>> Open Device Manager
>> Remove ALL Sound &Multimedia devices
>> Remove ALL error-flagged devices
>> Remove ALL entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present
>> Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers,
>> hopefully curing your problem.
>
> I did all of above. Sure enough, when I rebooted, the system went and
> reloaded the drivers I needed and the sound worked fine. Logging in
> and out of various user accounts didn't disturb the sound function.
> However, when I restarted, the sound was gone again.
>
> Without going to Safe Mode, I removed the "SoundMax Integrate Digital
> Audio" device from the "sound, video and game controllers" category of
> the Device Manager. When I rebooted, the system found the sound
> drivers and I had my sound again. But restarting WinME again caused
> sound to disappear.
>
> This makes my (unsophisticated) mind think that there is something
> going on during the Start Up sequence that disables the sound. I can
> still see the SoundMax device in Properties, I am being told the
> device is working properly, and I see a slew of drivers loaded. But
> no sound.
>
> Does this raise any possibilities of where the gremlin might be?
>
> Thanks for your continuing interest.
>
> Brian

PA Bear:
WE HAVE A WINNER! Changing the UseOutlook Value to Zero in the
registry key seemed to do the trick. I am back in business, and remain
in awe of the knowledge you, Noel and Mike bring to the table.
Thanks for the boost,
Brian

PA Bear wrote:
> Your thread so far: http://snipurl.com/kcg2
> I understand MS Office (or MS Outlook) also installed.

> Do you have this Registry key?...

> HKEY_CURRENT_USER
> \Software
> \Microsoft
> \WAB
> \WAB4
> If not, STOP; If so, is there a DWORD named UseOutlook (NB: no space) and is
> its value set to 1 (one)?
>
> If not, STOP; If so, Address Book is configured to share contacts with
> Outlook, even if you don't use it (can happen with the install of Office or
> Office/Outlook Updates). Change the value to 0 (zero), Address Book should
> be available to you and all should be well. (If that DWORD is not present,
> don't create it, and don't alter any other DWORD values.)
>
> Note that any changes (additions, deletions, edits) made while sharing was
> enabled will not be available (displayed) in Address Book when sharing is
> disabled.
>
> cf. http://www.insideoe.com/files/wab.htm#share
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=191946
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Security, Shell/User)
>
>
> BrianZ wrote:
> > Noel,
> > I renamed the folder.dbx file, rebooted and tried again -- with the
> > same results. This was true for both of the User accounts attempting
> > to use OE. I sense myself edging towards the point where
> > deinstall/reinstall is the next best option.
> >
> > Since the deinstall/reinstall of IE/OE seems to be a bit of a high wire
> > act, I am wondering whether it might be a better solution to load up
> > Earthlink's MailBox, and move the email traffic over there. Then I can
> > get back to the issues that were bugging me before OE went gitchy: (1)
> > Figuring out why the Sound function disappears every time I reboot and
> > (2) Finding a way (Gasp! Dare I hope?) to resurrect the System Restore
> > function.
> >
> > Would this be a viable option from where you sit?
> >
> > Brian

Thanks for that feedback Brian. I suspected that that was the cause of
your OE address book error but thought I'd let PA Bear explain it in full
since I didn't want to steal his thunder. :-)
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


BrianZ <beezer000@gmail.com> wrote:

> PA Bear:
> WE HAVE A WINNER! Changing the UseOutlook Value to Zero in the
> registry key seemed to do the trick. I am back in business, and
> remain in awe of the knowledge you, Noel and Mike bring to the table.
> Thanks for the boost,

Thanks for jumping in, Mike.

Under C:\Windows\Sysbckup, there is a file names RBBAD.CAB. It's
modified date updates every time I reboot the machine. This cabinet
file is about 3.7MB in size.

The sysbckup folder also has files labeled: rb000.cab, rb002.cab,
rb003.cab, rb0004.cab and rb005.cab. These are all in the 4.7MB range
and have modified dates during a single week in late June 2005 (which
may have been about the time the sound issue arose.) The final item in
the sysbckup folder is a NT1003.sys file of 32KB, last modified in the
June 2000.

Any food for thought?

Brian

Mike M wrote:
> Just a quick thought if I may. I can't help but wonder if the registry is
> damaged in some way and that when rebooting an older version is being
> loaded. Out of curiosity could you look in the folder
> C:\windows\sysbckup and see if it contains a file with a name something
> like RBBAD.CAB and if so does either the last modified or create date
> match the time when you last booted?
>
> Note that C:\windows\sysbckup is a hidden system folder and to view this
> folder using Windows Explorer you will have first to use Tools | Folder
> Options | View and check "Show hidden files and folders" and perhaps also
> uncheck "Hide protected operating system files", and then click Apply and
> OK.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> BrianZ <beezer000@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Noel,
> > After long delays and much frustration, I have tried your solution to
> > the issue of disappearing sound:
> > (I've been pinged for not quoting prior text. Apologies, because I
> > thought using the Google Groups "reply" feature kept the provenance
> > alive. You suggested
> >> WRT to your Sound issues. - try this
> >> Reboot to Safe Mode
> >> Open Device Manager
> >> Remove ALL Sound &Multimedia devices
> >> Remove ALL error-flagged devices
> >> Remove ALL entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present
> >> Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers,
> >> hopefully curing your problem.
> >
> > I did all of above. Sure enough, when I rebooted, the system went and
> > reloaded the drivers I needed and the sound worked fine. Logging in
> > and out of various user accounts didn't disturb the sound function.
> > However, when I restarted, the sound was gone again.
> >
> > Without going to Safe Mode, I removed the "SoundMax Integrate Digital
> > Audio" device from the "sound, video and game controllers" category of
> > the Device Manager. When I rebooted, the system found the sound
> > drivers and I had my sound again. But restarting WinME again caused
> > sound to disappear.
> >
> > This makes my (unsophisticated) mind think that there is something
> > going on during the Start Up sequence that disables the sound. I can
> > still see the SoundMax device in Properties, I am being told the
> > device is working properly, and I see a slew of drivers loaded. But
> > no sound.
> >
> > Does this raise any possibilities of where the gremlin might be?
> >
> > Thanks for your continuing interest.
> >
> > Brian

BrianZ <beezer000@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for jumping in, Mike.
>
> Under C:\Windows\Sysbckup, there is a file names RBBAD.CAB. It's
> modified date updates every time I reboot the machine. This cabinet
> file is about 3.7MB in size.

Brian,

OK, that is what I expected to see. What is happening is that each time
you boot your PC Win Me attempts to load a copy of the registry you were
using when your system shutdown. This fails and that bad copy of the
registry is saved as RBBAD.CAB and a backup good copy of the registry
loaded using the most recent of the rb00?.cab files. When this loads you
lose all the updates to the registry since that date including your newly
reinstalled soundcard drivers.

> The sysbckup folder also has files labeled: rb000.cab, rb002.cab,
> rb003.cab, rb0004.cab and rb005.cab. These are all in the 4.7MB range
> and have modified dates during a single week in late June 2005 (which
> may have been about the time the sound issue arose.) The final item
> in the sysbckup folder is a NT1003.sys file of 32KB, last modified in
> the June 2000.

Its very interesting that the size of the bad cab file is so much smaller
than the backup copies. If you double click a CAB file it should open.
Try comparing an rb00? file with rbbad. Which of classes.dat, system.dat
or user.dat is the one that is much smaller in rbbad? I suspect that it
might be system.dat.

The first question now has to be why is the most recent rb00?.cab file
dated June 2005? A new copy should be created the first time you boot
each day [not each time you boot] but not, I think, if you have the
problems I described above, with this being done by the ScanRegistry
scanregw entry that should be MSConfig | Startup. Forget about the
nt1003.sys file, that is as it should be. The second question has to be
what is corrupting your registry each time your system boots. This could
be due to defective RAM or even a damaged hard drive.

So what next? As I haven't been following this thread I've no idea what
you might have already tried but attempting to repair the registry would
be a place to start. Boot your system, don't start any applications, and
then click Start, Run and enter
SCANREG /FIX
and click OK. Scanreg should now run and hopefully will find and
hopefully fix the problem. The system should now reboot. Now fix your
sound driver problem using your tried and tested method and now reboot.
Does you sound work without having to reinstall the drivers? Was a new
backup copy of the registry created (rb00?.cab file).

If scanreg /fix doesn't resolve the problem you need to think about
checking your memory and hard disk. As a start, run scandisk (Start |
Programs | Accessories | System Tools) and run first a quick check and
then a full surface check.

> Any food for thought?

You want more? <vbg>
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com

YW & thanks for posting back.
--
~PA Bear

BrianZ wrote:
> PA Bear:
> WE HAVE A WINNER! Changing the UseOutlook Value to Zero in the
> registry key seemed to do the trick. I am back in business, and remain
> in awe of the knowledge you, Noel and Mike bring to the table.
> Thanks for the boost,
> Brian
>
> PA Bear wrote:
> > Your thread so far: http://snipurl.com/kcg2
> > I understand MS Office (or MS Outlook) also installed.
>
> > Do you have this Registry key?...
>
> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER
> > \Software
> > \Microsoft
> > \WAB
> > \WAB4
> > If not, STOP; If so, is there a DWORD named UseOutlook (NB: no space)
> > and is its value set to 1 (one)?
> >
> > If not, STOP; If so, Address Book is configured to share contacts with
> > Outlook, even if you don't use it (can happen with the install of
> > Office or Office/Outlook Updates). Change the value to 0 (zero),
> > Address Book should be available to you and all should be well. (If
> > that DWORD is not present, don't create it, and don't alter any other
> > DWORD values.)
> >
> > Note that any changes (additions, deletions, edits) made while sharing
> > was enabled will not be available (displayed) in Address Book when
> > sharing is disabled.
> >
> > cf. http://www.insideoe.com/files/wab.htm#share
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=191946
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Security, Shell/User)
> >
> >
> > BrianZ wrote:
> > > Noel,
> > > I renamed the folder.dbx file, rebooted and tried again -- with the
> > > same results. This was true for both of the User accounts attempting
> > > to use OE. I sense myself edging towards the point where
> > > deinstall/reinstall is the next best option.
> > >
> > > Since the deinstall/reinstall of IE/OE seems to be a bit of a high
> > > wire act, I am wondering whether it might be a better solution to
> > > load up Earthlink's MailBox, and move the email traffic over there.
> > > Then I can get back to the issues that were bugging me before OE went
> > > gitchy: (1) Figuring out why the Sound function disappears every time
> > > I reboot and (2) Finding a way (Gasp! Dare I hope?) to resurrect the
> > > System Restore function.
> > >
> > > Would this be a viable option from where you sit?
> > >
> > > Brian

Installing MS Office (with or without Outlook) or Office Updates is known to
enable sharing of (Address Book) contacts with Outlook, causing the problem
about which BrianZ first posted on 19 Nov-05: http://snipurl.com/kwtl

Thanks to Noel for crossposting BrianZ's thread to OE6 newsgroup. (Why no
one in that newsgroup didn't pick up on it till the 29th is anybody's
guess.)
--
~PA Bear

Mike M wrote:
> Thanks for that feedback Brian. I suspected that that was the cause of
> your OE address book error but thought I'd let PA Bear explain it in full
> since I didn't want to steal his thunder. :-)
>
> > PA Bear:
> > WE HAVE A WINNER! Changing the UseOutlook Value to Zero in the
> > registry key seemed to do the trick. I am back in business, and
> > remain in awe of the knowledge you, Noel and Mike bring to the table.
> > Thanks for the boost,