Hello all,

The emails sent out from Outlook Express 6.00 have Date Headers,having Time
formats in the manner below:
The Time Formats
Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500

There are AM/PM strings after the Time in the Date Headers.These do not
pertain to the Standard Date Formats defined by rfc 2822.

These are being seen in the following version of Outlook Express:

Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

Request inputs on this...if this is a known issue where mails from Outlook
Express have Date Headers with Time Formats having AM/PM ?
OR Does this happen with repect to some specific Date/Time settings in the
Windows Operating Server which the Outlook Express picks up for sending the
outgoing mails ?

Thanks

Hi smithas,

At the risk of speaking from ignorance, Outlook Express uses an offset from
UT to identify the time a message is created -- a message delayed being sent
will have an incorrect (sent) time. Are you sure this is not a server issue?

The message properties from my OE (same version) show 24 hour time.

Examples
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:20:44 -0800
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 05:36:56 -0800

--
Tim K.
aka Kuay Tim
MS-MVP - Outlook Express
Lynnwood, WA
*
"smithas" <smithas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:25973637-6F39-4549-B9A5-2405B8FA6348@microsoft.com...
Hello all,

The emails sent out from Outlook Express 6.00 have Date Headers,having Time
formats in the manner below:
The Time Formats
Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500

There are AM/PM strings after the Time in the Date Headers.These do not
pertain to the Standard Date Formats defined by rfc 2822.

These are being seen in the following version of Outlook Express:

Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

Request inputs on this...if this is a known issue where mails from Outlook
Express have Date Headers with Time Formats having AM/PM ?
OR Does this happen with repect to some specific Date/Time settings in the
Windows Operating Server which the Outlook Express picks up for sending the
outgoing mails ?

Thanks

Hi Kuay,

Thanks for your response ..even i was not able to see such a case where
AM/PM was seen in date Headers for mails being sent from Outlook Express
6.0.0.,was getting the same headers like the ones mentioned by you in the
Examples below.

But there were these mails which our customers were receving from Outlook
Express 6.0.0 to one of our developed applications which had this AM also in
the Date Header:

Here's a sample from the mail that we received,where Date Headers are
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Message-Id: <73707222813275063567074.y6#ZKQ201176@garza.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
From: Rick <rick@garza.com>
To: customerservice@csr.bank.com
Subject: Re:
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/related;
type="multipart/alternative";
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2005 08:40:01.0000 (UTC)
FILETIME=[829C4680:01C5E1E4]

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700"


------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Scholastic probably won't have to worry about many returns, however.
"Phoenix" sold more than 12 million copies, and "Half-Blood Prince" has been
No. 1 on Amazon.com's sales list since the book was announced several months
ago.

Potter fans, of course, face a far darker prospect than the departure of a
single character. The series itself must end -- Rowling expects to start
working on the seventh Potter book at the end of the year.
------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii">
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#F7BD42>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#F7BD42 =
size=3D1>The book is the sixth in the series and has sat in the No. 1 spot
on Amazon.com's best seller list since it was announced late last
year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dcenter><A
href=3D"http://aelmfgibdh.premiumtok.com/?cjkbdhxwntsyaelmzctfgi"><IMG
alt=3D"" =
hspace=3D0=20
src=3D"cid:000501c5dfcb$1f80d860$0e3ba8c0@MIDNIGHT " align=3Dbaseline=20
border=3D0></A></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#F7BD42=20
size=3D1>The New York buyer said she would return the book; in the Canadian
case, a judge ordered purchasers to avoid disclosing the plot if they
wouldn't return their copies. According to some reports, they were even told
not to read it.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700--

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700
Content-Type: image/gif;
name="dc005638.gif"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-ID: <000501c5dfcb$1f80d860$0e3ba8c0@MIDNIGHT>

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Not sure if this is happens with Outlook for some Date/Time Zone Settings on
the Server .

The only difference that we see with the mails being sent out that is seen
in the Outlook Express that is being used by us the one received is the
version of the Outlook Express,which is as follows:

Version of Outlook 6.00 which has these AM/PM in it
------------------------------------------------------------

X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

and

Version of Outlook 6.00 which does not have such AM/PM in the Date
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Headers:
---------

X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000

It would be really helpful if there are any inputs on this.

Thanks again



"Kuay Tim" wrote:

> Hi smithas,
>
> At the risk of speaking from ignorance, Outlook Express uses an offset from
> UT to identify the time a message is created -- a message delayed being sent
> will have an incorrect (sent) time. Are you sure this is not a server issue?
>
> The message properties from my OE (same version) show 24 hour time.
>
> Examples
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:20:44 -0800
> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 05:36:56 -0800
>
> --
> Tim K.
> aka Kuay Tim
> MS-MVP - Outlook Express
> Lynnwood, WA
> *
> "smithas" <smithas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:25973637-6F39-4549-B9A5-2405B8FA6348@microsoft.com...
> Hello all,
>
> The emails sent out from Outlook Express 6.00 have Date Headers,having Time
> formats in the manner below:
> The Time Formats
> Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
>
> There are AM/PM strings after the Time in the Date Headers.These do not
> pertain to the Standard Date Formats defined by rfc 2822.
>
> These are being seen in the following version of Outlook Express:
>
> Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
> Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
>
> Request inputs on this...if this is a known issue where mails from Outlook
> Express have Date Headers with Time Formats having AM/PM ?
> OR Does this happen with repect to some specific Date/Time settings in the
> Windows Operating Server which the Outlook Express picks up for sending the
> outgoing mails ?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>

Like Tim, I've never seen OE put and AM/PM in the Date header.

On the problem PCs, if you look in their Sent Items folder at the
Message Source (Ctrl-F3), is the AM/PM there? If not, then something
happened to the Date header after leaving OE.

If the AM/PM is there, what are those people using for their Regional
Settings, including Time format

A curious thing that I notice from the sample message:

Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2005 08:40:01.0000 (UTC)
FILETIME=[829C4680:01C5E1E4]

I presume the X-OriginalArrivalTime: is coming from your mail server
when the message is received. Allowing for a slight delay in sending
and differences between clocks, the "08:38:40 AM -0500" would be around
"13:38:40 (UTC)".


--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"smithas" <smithas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3A3DB1E9-3B22-4A6A-9FCA-BF7844B93984@microsoft.com...
> Hi Kuay,
>
> Thanks for your response ..even i was not able to see such a case
> where
> AM/PM was seen in date Headers for mails being sent from Outlook
> Express
> 6.0.0.,was getting the same headers like the ones mentioned by you in
> the
> Examples below.
>
> But there were these mails which our customers were receving from
> Outlook
> Express 6.0.0 to one of our developed applications which had this AM
> also in
> the Date Header:
>
> Here's a sample from the mail that we received,where Date Headers are
> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
>
> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> Message-Id: <73707222813275063567074.y6#ZKQ201176@garza.com>
> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
> From: Rick <rick@garza.com>
> To: customerservice@csr.bank.com
> Subject: Re:
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/related;
> type="multipart/alternative";
> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700"
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2005 08:40:01.0000 (UTC)
> FILETIME=[829C4680:01C5E1E4]
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700"
>
>
> ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Scholastic probably won't have to worry about many returns, however.
> "Phoenix" sold more than 12 million copies, and "Half-Blood Prince"
> has been
> No. 1 on Amazon.com's sales list since the book was announced several
> months
> ago.
>
> Potter fans, of course, face a far darker prospect than the departure
> of a
> single character. The series itself must end -- Rowling expects to
> start
> working on the seventh Potter book at the end of the year.
> ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700
> Content-Type: text/html;
> charset="us-ascii"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> <HTML><HEAD>
> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html;
> charset=3Dus-ascii">
> </HEAD>
> <BODY bgColor=3D#F7BD42>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#F7BD42 =
> size=3D1>The book is the sixth in the series and has sat in the No. 1
> spot
> on Amazon.com's best seller list since it was announced late last
> year.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV align=3Dcenter><A
> href=3D"http://aelmfgibdh.premiumtok.com/?cjkbdhxwntsyaelmzctfgi"><IMG
> alt=3D"" =
> hspace=3D0=20
> src=3D"cid:000501c5dfcb$1f80d860$0e3ba8c0@MIDNIGHT "
> align=3Dbaseline=20
> border=3D0></A></DIV>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#F7BD42=20
> size=3D1>The New York buyer said she would return the book; in the
> Canadian
> case, a judge ordered purchasers to avoid disclosing the plot if they
> wouldn't return their copies. According to some reports, they were
> even told
> not to read it.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
> ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700--
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700
> Content-Type: image/gif;
> name="dc005638.gif"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-ID: <000501c5dfcb$1f80d860$0e3ba8c0@MIDNIGHT>
>
> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> Not sure if this is happens with Outlook for some Date/Time Zone
> Settings on
> the Server .
>
> The only difference that we see with the mails being sent out that is
> seen
> in the Outlook Express that is being used by us the one received is
> the
> version of the Outlook Express,which is as follows:
>
> Version of Outlook 6.00 which has these AM/PM in it
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
>
> and
>
> Version of Outlook 6.00 which does not have such AM/PM in the Date
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Headers:
> ---------
>
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
>
> It would be really helpful if there are any inputs on this.
>
> Thanks again
>
>
>
> "Kuay Tim" wrote:
>
>> Hi smithas,
>>
>> At the risk of speaking from ignorance, Outlook Express uses an
>> offset from
>> UT to identify the time a message is created -- a message delayed
>> being sent
>> will have an incorrect (sent) time. Are you sure this is not a server
>> issue?
>>
>> The message properties from my OE (same version) show 24 hour time.
>>
>> Examples
>> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:20:44 -0800
>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 05:36:56 -0800
>>
>> --
>> Tim K.
>> aka Kuay Tim
>> MS-MVP - Outlook Express
>> Lynnwood, WA
>> *
>> "smithas" <smithas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:25973637-6F39-4549-B9A5-2405B8FA6348@microsoft.com...
>> Hello all,
>>
>> The emails sent out from Outlook Express 6.00 have Date
>> Headers,having Time
>> formats in the manner below:
>> The Time Formats
>> Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
>>
>> There are AM/PM strings after the Time in the Date Headers.These do
>> not
>> pertain to the Standard Date Formats defined by rfc 2822.
>>
>> These are being seen in the following version of Outlook Express:
>>
>> Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
>> Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
>>
>> Request inputs on this...if this is a known issue where mails from
>> Outlook
>> Express have Date Headers with Time Formats having AM/PM ?
>> OR Does this happen with repect to some specific Date/Time settings
>> in the
>> Windows Operating Server which the Outlook Express picks up for
>> sending the
>> outgoing mails ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>

Hi ,

The issue might be with the mail server as you have mentioned here....since
i too tested it with Outlook Express 6.00 and several combinations of
Regional Settings but could not find an AM/PM in the Date Headers.

The Regional Settings cannot be verified since these mails are from our
customer's customer so will not be able to get the info.

Thanks for all the inputs. Will check if the mails servers are the cause for
the same.

Thanks

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

> Like Tim, I've never seen OE put and AM/PM in the Date header.
>
> On the problem PCs, if you look in their Sent Items folder at the
> Message Source (Ctrl-F3), is the AM/PM there? If not, then something
> happened to the Date header after leaving OE.
>
> If the AM/PM is there, what are those people using for their Regional
> Settings, including Time format
>
> A curious thing that I notice from the sample message:
>
> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2005 08:40:01.0000 (UTC)
> FILETIME=[829C4680:01C5E1E4]
>
> I presume the X-OriginalArrivalTime: is coming from your mail server
> when the message is received. Allowing for a slight delay in sending
> and differences between clocks, the "08:38:40 AM -0500" would be around
> "13:38:40 (UTC)".
>
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
> "smithas" <smithas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3A3DB1E9-3B22-4A6A-9FCA-BF7844B93984@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Kuay,
> >
> > Thanks for your response ..even i was not able to see such a case
> > where
> > AM/PM was seen in date Headers for mails being sent from Outlook
> > Express
> > 6.0.0.,was getting the same headers like the ones mentioned by you in
> > the
> > Examples below.
> >
> > But there were these mails which our customers were receving from
> > Outlook
> > Express 6.0.0 to one of our developed applications which had this AM
> > also in
> > the Date Header:
> >
> > Here's a sample from the mail that we received,where Date Headers are
> > Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
> >
> > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >
> > Message-Id: <73707222813275063567074.y6#ZKQ201176@garza.com>
> > Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
> > From: Rick <rick@garza.com>
> > To: customerservice@csr.bank.com
> > Subject: Re:
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: multipart/related;
> > type="multipart/alternative";
> > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700"
> > X-Priority: 3
> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2005 08:40:01.0000 (UTC)
> > FILETIME=[829C4680:01C5E1E4]
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700
> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> > boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700"
> >
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="us-ascii"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > Scholastic probably won't have to worry about many returns, however.
> > "Phoenix" sold more than 12 million copies, and "Half-Blood Prince"
> > has been
> > No. 1 on Amazon.com's sales list since the book was announced several
> > months
> > ago.
> >
> > Potter fans, of course, face a far darker prospect than the departure
> > of a
> > single character. The series itself must end -- Rowling expects to
> > start
> > working on the seventh Potter book at the end of the year.
> > ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700
> > Content-Type: text/html;
> > charset="us-ascii"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > <HTML><HEAD>
> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html;
> > charset=3Dus-ascii">
> > </HEAD>
> > <BODY bgColor=3D#F7BD42>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#F7BD42 =
> > size=3D1>The book is the sixth in the series and has sat in the No. 1
> > spot
> > on Amazon.com's best seller list since it was announced late last
> > year.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV align=3Dcenter><A
> > href=3D"http://aelmfgibdh.premiumtok.com/?cjkbdhxwntsyaelmzctfgi"><IMG
> > alt=3D"" =
> > hspace=3D0=20
> > src=3D"cid:000501c5dfcb$1f80d860$0e3ba8c0@MIDNIGHT "
> > align=3Dbaseline=20
> > border=3D0></A></DIV>
> > <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#F7BD42=20
> > size=3D1>The New York buyer said she would return the book; in the
> > Canadian
> > case, a judge ordered purchasers to avoid disclosing the plot if they
> > wouldn't return their copies. According to some reports, they were
> > even told
> > not to read it.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700--
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700
> > Content-Type: image/gif;
> > name="dc005638.gif"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> > Content-ID: <000501c5dfcb$1f80d860$0e3ba8c0@MIDNIGHT>
> >
> > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >
> > Not sure if this is happens with Outlook for some Date/Time Zone
> > Settings on
> > the Server .
> >
> > The only difference that we see with the mails being sent out that is
> > seen
> > in the Outlook Express that is being used by us the one received is
> > the
> > version of the Outlook Express,which is as follows:
> >
> > Version of Outlook 6.00 which has these AM/PM in it
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
> >
> > and
> >
> > Version of Outlook 6.00 which does not have such AM/PM in the Date
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Headers:
> > ---------
> >
> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
> >
> > It would be really helpful if there are any inputs on this.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> >
> >
> > "Kuay Tim" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi smithas,
> >>
> >> At the risk of speaking from ignorance, Outlook Express uses an
> >> offset from
> >> UT to identify the time a message is created -- a message delayed
> >> being sent
> >> will have an incorrect (sent) time. Are you sure this is not a server
> >> issue?
> >>
> >> The message properties from my OE (same version) show 24 hour time.
> >>
> >> Examples
> >> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:20:44 -0800
> >> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 05:36:56 -0800
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tim K.
> >> aka Kuay Tim
> >> MS-MVP - Outlook Express
> >> Lynnwood, WA
> >> *
> >> "smithas" <smithas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:25973637-6F39-4549-B9A5-2405B8FA6348@microsoft.com...
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> The emails sent out from Outlook Express 6.00 have Date
> >> Headers,having Time
> >> formats in the manner below:
> >> The Time Formats
> >> Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
> >>
> >> There are AM/PM strings after the Time in the Date Headers.These do
> >> not
> >> pertain to the Standard Date Formats defined by rfc 2822.
> >>
> >> These are being seen in the following version of Outlook Express:
> >>
> >> Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
> >> Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
> >>
> >> Request inputs on this...if this is a known issue where mails from
> >> Outlook
> >> Express have Date Headers with Time Formats having AM/PM ?
> >> OR Does this happen with repect to some specific Date/Time settings
> >> in the
> >> Windows Operating Server which the Outlook Express picks up for
> >> sending the
> >> outgoing mails ?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Hi ,

The issue might be with the mail servers since i too have verified the mails
sent from Outlook Express 6.0.0 with varied combinations of the Date/Time
Headers in the Regional Options,but did not find a AM/PM in the Date Header.

The info of the Regional settings cannot be found since the mails are from
our customer's customer.

Thanks for all the inputs.

Thanks.


"Michael Santovec" wrote:

> Like Tim, I've never seen OE put and AM/PM in the Date header.
>
> On the problem PCs, if you look in their Sent Items folder at the
> Message Source (Ctrl-F3), is the AM/PM there? If not, then something
> happened to the Date header after leaving OE.
>
> If the AM/PM is there, what are those people using for their Regional
> Settings, including Time format
>
> A curious thing that I notice from the sample message:
>
> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2005 08:40:01.0000 (UTC)
> FILETIME=[829C4680:01C5E1E4]
>
> I presume the X-OriginalArrivalTime: is coming from your mail server
> when the message is received. Allowing for a slight delay in sending
> and differences between clocks, the "08:38:40 AM -0500" would be around
> "13:38:40 (UTC)".
>
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
> "smithas" <smithas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3A3DB1E9-3B22-4A6A-9FCA-BF7844B93984@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Kuay,
> >
> > Thanks for your response ..even i was not able to see such a case
> > where
> > AM/PM was seen in date Headers for mails being sent from Outlook
> > Express
> > 6.0.0.,was getting the same headers like the ones mentioned by you in
> > the
> > Examples below.
> >
> > But there were these mails which our customers were receving from
> > Outlook
> > Express 6.0.0 to one of our developed applications which had this AM
> > also in
> > the Date Header:
> >
> > Here's a sample from the mail that we received,where Date Headers are
> > Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
> >
> > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >
> > Message-Id: <73707222813275063567074.y6#ZKQ201176@garza.com>
> > Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
> > From: Rick <rick@garza.com>
> > To: customerservice@csr.bank.com
> > Subject: Re:
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: multipart/related;
> > type="multipart/alternative";
> > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700"
> > X-Priority: 3
> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2005 08:40:01.0000 (UTC)
> > FILETIME=[829C4680:01C5E1E4]
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700
> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> > boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700"
> >
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="us-ascii"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > Scholastic probably won't have to worry about many returns, however.
> > "Phoenix" sold more than 12 million copies, and "Half-Blood Prince"
> > has been
> > No. 1 on Amazon.com's sales list since the book was announced several
> > months
> > ago.
> >
> > Potter fans, of course, face a far darker prospect than the departure
> > of a
> > single character. The series itself must end -- Rowling expects to
> > start
> > working on the seventh Potter book at the end of the year.
> > ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700
> > Content-Type: text/html;
> > charset="us-ascii"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > <HTML><HEAD>
> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html;
> > charset=3Dus-ascii">
> > </HEAD>
> > <BODY bgColor=3D#F7BD42>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#F7BD42 =
> > size=3D1>The book is the sixth in the series and has sat in the No. 1
> > spot
> > on Amazon.com's best seller list since it was announced late last
> > year.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV align=3Dcenter><A
> > href=3D"http://aelmfgibdh.premiumtok.com/?cjkbdhxwntsyaelmzctfgi"><IMG
> > alt=3D"" =
> > hspace=3D0=20
> > src=3D"cid:000501c5dfcb$1f80d860$0e3ba8c0@MIDNIGHT "
> > align=3Dbaseline=20
> > border=3D0></A></DIV>
> > <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#F7BD42=20
> > size=3D1>The New York buyer said she would return the book; in the
> > Canadian
> > case, a judge ordered purchasers to avoid disclosing the plot if they
> > wouldn't return their copies. According to some reports, they were
> > even told
> > not to read it.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700--
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700
> > Content-Type: image/gif;
> > name="dc005638.gif"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> > Content-ID: <000501c5dfcb$1f80d860$0e3ba8c0@MIDNIGHT>
> >
> > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >
> > Not sure if this is happens with Outlook for some Date/Time Zone
> > Settings on
> > the Server .
> >
> > The only difference that we see with the mails being sent out that is
> > seen
> > in the Outlook Express that is being used by us the one received is
> > the
> > version of the Outlook Express,which is as follows:
> >
> > Version of Outlook 6.00 which has these AM/PM in it
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
> >
> > and
> >
> > Version of Outlook 6.00 which does not have such AM/PM in the Date
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Headers:
> > ---------
> >
> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
> >
> > It would be really helpful if there are any inputs on this.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> >
> >
> > "Kuay Tim" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi smithas,
> >>
> >> At the risk of speaking from ignorance, Outlook Express uses an
> >> offset from
> >> UT to identify the time a message is created -- a message delayed
> >> being sent
> >> will have an incorrect (sent) time. Are you sure this is not a server
> >> issue?
> >>
> >> The message properties from my OE (same version) show 24 hour time.
> >>
> >> Examples
> >> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:20:44 -0800
> >> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 05:36:56 -0800
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tim K.
> >> aka Kuay Tim
> >> MS-MVP - Outlook Express
> >> Lynnwood, WA
> >> *
> >> "smithas" <smithas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:25973637-6F39-4549-B9A5-2405B8FA6348@microsoft.com...
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> The emails sent out from Outlook Express 6.00 have Date
> >> Headers,having Time
> >> formats in the manner below:
> >> The Time Formats
> >> Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
> >>
> >> There are AM/PM strings after the Time in the Date Headers.These do
> >> not
> >> pertain to the Standard Date Formats defined by rfc 2822.
> >>
> >> These are being seen in the following version of Outlook Express:
> >>
> >> Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
> >> Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
> >>
> >> Request inputs on this...if this is a known issue where mails from
> >> Outlook
> >> Express have Date Headers with Time Formats having AM/PM ?
> >> OR Does this happen with repect to some specific Date/Time settings
> >> in the
> >> Windows Operating Server which the Outlook Express picks up for
> >> sending the
> >> outgoing mails ?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

The other thing I was wondering about, did you remove some headers from
the sample messages?

I didn't see any "Received:" headers. There should be one for each mail
server that the message passes through. If these are submitted by
customers, there should be at least 2. One for their ISP's SMTP mail
server and one for your mail server.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"smithas" <smithas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6EEC45D2-24C7-4E0D-9BFD-4FF49360FA56@microsoft.com...
> Hi ,
>
> The issue might be with the mail server as you have mentioned
> here....since
> i too tested it with Outlook Express 6.00 and several combinations of
> Regional Settings but could not find an AM/PM in the Date Headers.
>
> The Regional Settings cannot be verified since these mails are from
> our
> customer's customer so will not be able to get the info.
>
> Thanks for all the inputs. Will check if the mails servers are the
> cause for
> the same.
>
> Thanks
>
> "Michael Santovec" wrote:
>
>> Like Tim, I've never seen OE put and AM/PM in the Date header.
>>
>> On the problem PCs, if you look in their Sent Items folder at the
>> Message Source (Ctrl-F3), is the AM/PM there? If not, then
>> something
>> happened to the Date header after leaving OE.
>>
>> If the AM/PM is there, what are those people using for their Regional
>> Settings, including Time format
>>
>> A curious thing that I notice from the sample message:
>>
>> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
>> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2005 08:40:01.0000 (UTC)
>> FILETIME=[829C4680:01C5E1E4]
>>
>> I presume the X-OriginalArrivalTime: is coming from your mail server
>> when the message is received. Allowing for a slight delay in
>> sending
>> and differences between clocks, the "08:38:40 AM -0500" would be
>> around
>> "13:38:40 (UTC)".
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>> "smithas" <smithas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3A3DB1E9-3B22-4A6A-9FCA-BF7844B93984@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Kuay,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your response ..even i was not able to see such a case
>> > where
>> > AM/PM was seen in date Headers for mails being sent from Outlook
>> > Express
>> > 6.0.0.,was getting the same headers like the ones mentioned by you
>> > in
>> > the
>> > Examples below.
>> >
>> > But there were these mails which our customers were receving from
>> > Outlook
>> > Express 6.0.0 to one of our developed applications which had this
>> > AM
>> > also in
>> > the Date Header:
>> >
>> > Here's a sample from the mail that we received,where Date Headers
>> > are
>> > Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
>> >
>> > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>> >
>> > Message-Id: <73707222813275063567074.y6#ZKQ201176@garza.com>
>> > Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
>> > From: Rick <rick@garza.com>
>> > To: customerservice@csr.bank.com
>> > Subject: Re:
>> > MIME-Version: 1.0
>> > Content-Type: multipart/related;
>> > type="multipart/alternative";
>> > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700"
>> > X-Priority: 3
>> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
>> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
>> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2005 08:40:01.0000 (UTC)
>> > FILETIME=[829C4680:01C5E1E4]
>> >
>> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>> >
>> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700
>> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>> > boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700"
>> >
>> >
>> > ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700
>> > Content-Type: text/plain;
>> > charset="us-ascii"
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> >
>> > Scholastic probably won't have to worry about many returns,
>> > however.
>> > "Phoenix" sold more than 12 million copies, and "Half-Blood Prince"
>> > has been
>> > No. 1 on Amazon.com's sales list since the book was announced
>> > several
>> > months
>> > ago.
>> >
>> > Potter fans, of course, face a far darker prospect than the
>> > departure
>> > of a
>> > single character. The series itself must end -- Rowling expects to
>> > start
>> > working on the seventh Potter book at the end of the year.
>> > ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700
>> > Content-Type: text/html;
>> > charset="us-ascii"
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>> >
>> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> > <HTML><HEAD>
>> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html;
>> > charset=3Dus-ascii">
>> > </HEAD>
>> > <BODY bgColor=3D#F7BD42>
>> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#F7BD42 =
>> > size=3D1>The book is the sixth in the series and has sat in the No.
>> > 1
>> > spot
>> > on Amazon.com's best seller list since it was announced late last
>> > year.</FONT></DIV>
>> > <DIV align=3Dcenter><A
>> > href=3D"http://aelmfgibdh.premiumtok.com/?cjkbdhxwntsyaelmzctfgi"><IMG
>> > alt=3D"" =
>> > hspace=3D0=20
>> > src=3D"cid:000501c5dfcb$1f80d860$0e3ba8c0@MIDNIGHT "
>> > align=3Dbaseline=20
>> > border=3D0></A></DIV>
>> > <DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#F7BD42=20
>> > size=3D1>The New York buyer said she would return the book; in the
>> > Canadian
>> > case, a judge ordered purchasers to avoid disclosing the plot if
>> > they
>> > wouldn't return their copies. According to some reports, they were
>> > even told
>> > not to read it.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>> >
>> > ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C5E005.CBE13700--
>> >
>> > ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C5E005.CBE13700
>> > Content-Type: image/gif;
>> > name="dc005638.gif"
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>> > Content-ID: <000501c5dfcb$1f80d860$0e3ba8c0@MIDNIGHT>
>> >
>> > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>> >
>> > Not sure if this is happens with Outlook for some Date/Time Zone
>> > Settings on
>> > the Server .
>> >
>> > The only difference that we see with the mails being sent out that
>> > is
>> > seen
>> > in the Outlook Express that is being used by us the one received is
>> > the
>> > version of the Outlook Express,which is as follows:
>> >
>> > Version of Outlook 6.00 which has these AM/PM in it
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
>> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> > Version of Outlook 6.00 which does not have such AM/PM in the Date
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Headers:
>> > ---------
>> >
>> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
>> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
>> >
>> > It would be really helpful if there are any inputs on this.
>> >
>> > Thanks again
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Kuay Tim" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi smithas,
>> >>
>> >> At the risk of speaking from ignorance, Outlook Express uses an
>> >> offset from
>> >> UT to identify the time a message is created -- a message delayed
>> >> being sent
>> >> will have an incorrect (sent) time. Are you sure this is not a
>> >> server
>> >> issue?
>> >>
>> >> The message properties from my OE (same version) show 24 hour
>> >> time.
>> >>
>> >> Examples
>> >> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 19:20:44 -0800
>> >> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 05:36:56 -0800
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Tim K.
>> >> aka Kuay Tim
>> >> MS-MVP - Outlook Express
>> >> Lynnwood, WA
>> >> *
>> >> "smithas" <smithas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:25973637-6F39-4549-B9A5-2405B8FA6348@microsoft.com...
>> >> Hello all,
>> >>
>> >> The emails sent out from Outlook Express 6.00 have Date
>> >> Headers,having Time
>> >> formats in the manner below:
>> >> The Time Formats
>> >> Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:38:40 AM -0500
>> >>
>> >> There are AM/PM strings after the Time in the Date Headers.These
>> >> do
>> >> not
>> >> pertain to the Standard Date Formats defined by rfc 2822.
>> >>
>> >> These are being seen in the following version of Outlook Express:
>> >>
>> >> Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
>> >> Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
>> >>
>> >> Request inputs on this...if this is a known issue where mails
>> >> from
>> >> Outlook
>> >> Express have Date Headers with Time Formats having AM/PM ?
>> >> OR Does this happen with repect to some specific Date/Time
>> >> settings
>> >> in the
>> >> Windows Operating Server which the Outlook Express picks up for
>> >> sending the
>> >> outgoing mails ?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>