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Old 01-05-2006, 04:50 PM
KB
 
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Default wireless connection for email

Hi all,

First off, I am a fairly experienced PC user, but unfortunately haven't had an experience
with wireless connections (so excuse my ignorance). Someone wants me to do some misc
things to their laptop.


1. My laptop user has a comcast cable email account which she uses from home. She has a
wireless connection, and also can plug into her dsl at work. She has an email address thru
her company that is listed on the company's website. She can receive her emails through
the webhost's server, but can't send emails with the smtp provided.

2. If she has to use another smtp server, can she use her wireless connection to do that.
If not, how can she configure her email account to be able to use whatever connection is
best at the time, either Comcast or wireless.

(okay, this may be dumb, but does a wireless connection just give you a connection, but
not provide email like a regular ISP would?)

I guess what I'm saying is that if she HAS to use another smtp, she would have to use US
LEC at work, Comcast at home, or wireless if wireless does that. How could she use one
smtp for all outgoing?

Hope that made sense. Will clarify if necessary.

Thanks to all,

KB
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:50 PM
DGuess
 
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"KB" <karlb65nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:MMJmf.50698$i7.12331@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. .
> Hi all,
>
> First off, I am a fairly experienced PC user, but unfortunately haven't
> had an experience with wireless connections (so excuse my ignorance).
> Someone wants me to do some misc things to their laptop.
>
>
> 1. My laptop user has a comcast cable email account which she uses from
> home. She has a wireless connection, and also can plug into her dsl at
> work. She has an email address thru her company that is listed on the
> company's website. She can receive her emails through the webhost's
> server, but can't send emails with the smtp provided.
>
> 2. If she has to use another smtp server, can she use her wireless
> connection to do that. If not, how can she configure her email account to
> be able to use whatever connection is best at the time, either Comcast or
> wireless.
>
> (okay, this may be dumb, but does a wireless connection just give you a
> connection, but not provide email like a regular ISP would?)
>
> I guess what I'm saying is that if she HAS to use another smtp, she would
> have to use US LEC at work, Comcast at home, or wireless if wireless does
> that. How could she use one smtp for all outgoing?
>
> Hope that made sense. Will clarify if necessary.
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> KB



Each provider is blocking the SMTP server of the other account as an
anti-spam measure. This is normal and been going on for years.

Set up the mail accounts again and this time, use the SMTP server for the
other connection. She would have the following:

Comcast - normal POP and SMTP servers
DSL - normal POP and SMTP servers
Comcast2 - Comcast POP and DSL SMTP so she can select this account to send
thru thr Comcast account while connected to DSL
DSL2 - DSL POP and Comcast SMTP that would allow her to send thru DSL
account while connected to Comcast.

She'll just have to get used to clicking the From: line and selecting the
appropriate account.



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Old 01-05-2006, 04:50 PM
KB
 
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DGuess wrote:
> "KB" <karlb65nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:MMJmf.50698$i7.12331@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. .
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>First off, I am a fairly experienced PC user, but unfortunately haven't
>>had an experience with wireless connections (so excuse my ignorance).
>>Someone wants me to do some misc things to their laptop.
>>
>>
>>1. My laptop user has a comcast cable email account which she uses from
>>home. She has a wireless connection, and also can plug into her dsl at
>>work. She has an email address thru her company that is listed on the
>>company's website. She can receive her emails through the webhost's
>>server, but can't send emails with the smtp provided.
>>
>>2. If she has to use another smtp server, can she use her wireless
>>connection to do that. If not, how can she configure her email account to
>>be able to use whatever connection is best at the time, either Comcast or
>>wireless.
>>
>>(okay, this may be dumb, but does a wireless connection just give you a
>>connection, but not provide email like a regular ISP would?)
>>
>>I guess what I'm saying is that if she HAS to use another smtp, she would
>>have to use US LEC at work, Comcast at home, or wireless if wireless does
>>that. How could she use one smtp for all outgoing?
>>
>>Hope that made sense. Will clarify if necessary.
>>
>>Thanks to all,
>>
>>KB

>
>
>
> Each provider is blocking the SMTP server of the other account as an
> anti-spam measure. This is normal and been going on for years.
>
> Set up the mail accounts again and this time, use the SMTP server for the
> other connection. She would have the following:
>
> Comcast - normal POP and SMTP servers
> DSL - normal POP and SMTP servers
> Comcast2 - Comcast POP and DSL SMTP so she can select this account to send
> thru thr Comcast account while connected to DSL
> DSL2 - DSL POP and Comcast SMTP that would allow her to send thru DSL
> account while connected to Comcast.
>
> She'll just have to get used to clicking the From: line and selecting the
> appropriate account.
>
>
>

And as far as her wireless connection goes, how is having a wireless connection useful for
email, if at all?

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:50 PM
RRR_News
 
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KB,
She may want to set her Comcast acct like she was traveling. Using different
ports for incoming & outgoing mail server. See the following article:
http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/inde...k_Express17717

In OE> TOOLS> Accounts> Mail Accts> Select Comcast acct> Properties button>
Advanced tab> Change the following port settings.
Using 465 for Outgoing Mail Server.
Using 995 for Incoming Mail Server (This may not be necessary, if mail is not
blocked).

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"KB" <karlb65nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:MMJmf.50698$i7.12331@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. .
Hi all,

First off, I am a fairly experienced PC user, but unfortunately haven't had an
experience
with wireless connections (so excuse my ignorance). Someone wants me to do some
misc
things to their laptop.


1. My laptop user has a comcast cable email account which she uses from home.
She has a
wireless connection, and also can plug into her dsl at work. She has an email
address thru
her company that is listed on the company's website. She can receive her emails
through
the webhost's server, but can't send emails with the smtp provided.

2. If she has to use another smtp server, can she use her wireless connection to
do that.
If not, how can she configure her email account to be able to use whatever
connection is
best at the time, either Comcast or wireless.

(okay, this may be dumb, but does a wireless connection just give you a
connection, but
not provide email like a regular ISP would?)

I guess what I'm saying is that if she HAS to use another smtp, she would have
to use US
LEC at work, Comcast at home, or wireless if wireless does that. How could she
use one
smtp for all outgoing?

Hope that made sense. Will clarify if necessary.

Thanks to all,

KB

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:50 PM
DGuess
 
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"KB" <karlb65nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
newsXLmf.71839$Y82.6904@bignews4.bellsouth.net.. .
> DGuess wrote:
>> "KB" <karlb65nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:MMJmf.50698$i7.12331@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. .
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>First off, I am a fairly experienced PC user, but unfortunately haven't
>>>had an experience with wireless connections (so excuse my ignorance).
>>>Someone wants me to do some misc things to their laptop.
>>>
>>>
>>>1. My laptop user has a comcast cable email account which she uses from
>>>home. She has a wireless connection, and also can plug into her dsl at
>>>work. She has an email address thru her company that is listed on the
>>>company's website. She can receive her emails through the webhost's
>>>server, but can't send emails with the smtp provided.
>>>
>>>2. If she has to use another smtp server, can she use her wireless
>>>connection to do that. If not, how can she configure her email account to
>>>be able to use whatever connection is best at the time, either Comcast or
>>>wireless.
>>>
>>>(okay, this may be dumb, but does a wireless connection just give you a
>>>connection, but not provide email like a regular ISP would?)
>>>
>>>I guess what I'm saying is that if she HAS to use another smtp, she would
>>>have to use US LEC at work, Comcast at home, or wireless if wireless does
>>>that. How could she use one smtp for all outgoing?
>>>
>>>Hope that made sense. Will clarify if necessary.
>>>
>>>Thanks to all,
>>>
>>>KB

>>
>>
>>
>> Each provider is blocking the SMTP server of the other account as an
>> anti-spam measure. This is normal and been going on for years.
>>
>> Set up the mail accounts again and this time, use the SMTP server for the
>> other connection. She would have the following:
>>
>> Comcast - normal POP and SMTP servers
>> DSL - normal POP and SMTP servers
>> Comcast2 - Comcast POP and DSL SMTP so she can select this account to
>> send thru thr Comcast account while connected to DSL
>> DSL2 - DSL POP and Comcast SMTP that would allow her to send thru DSL
>> account while connected to Comcast.
>>
>> She'll just have to get used to clicking the From: line and selecting the
>> appropriate account.
>>
>>
>>

> And as far as her wireless connection goes, how is having a wireless
> connection useful for email, if at all?
>



Depends upon how they plan on using wireless I guess, it really poses no
part other than connecting the computer to the Internet or the local network
they may have set up. If they have no need for wireless, disable it. For
email, you just need the Internet connection and permission to send mail via
whatever host you're using.

If they go somewhere, they will need to set up an account with the SMTP
server name of the host ISP unless there is not security set up to block
port 25.

I have a setup here at the house where I use Remote Desktop Connection on my
laptop to connect to my other computers as needed. My network is also set up
weird because I do not have broadband, I use dial up to connect and all the
people who told me it wouldn't work don't know how to do it which is rather
simple to do.





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Old 01-05-2006, 04:51 PM
KB
 
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RRR_News wrote:
> KB,
> She may want to set her Comcast acct like she was traveling. Using different
> ports for incoming & outgoing mail server. See the following article:
> http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/inde...k_Express17717
>
> In OE> TOOLS> Accounts> Mail Accts> Select Comcast acct> Properties button>
> Advanced tab> Change the following port settings.
> Using 465 for Outgoing Mail Server.
> Using 995 for Incoming Mail Server (This may not be necessary, if mail is not
> blocked).
>

That sounds like a great idea. If I do this can I then only have one Comcast acct for her,
using these settings, that will work either at home or away?

Thanks,

KB
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:51 PM
KB
 
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KB wrote:
> RRR_News wrote:
>
>> KB,
>> She may want to set her Comcast acct like she was traveling. Using
>> different ports for incoming & outgoing mail server. See the following
>> article:
>> http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/inde...k_Express17717
>>
>> In OE> TOOLS> Accounts> Mail Accts> Select Comcast acct> Properties
>> button> Advanced tab> Change the following port settings.
>> Using 465 for Outgoing Mail Server.
>> Using 995 for Incoming Mail Server (This may not be necessary, if mail
>> is not blocked).
>>

> That sounds like a great idea. If I do this can I then only have one
> Comcast acct for her, using these settings, that will work either at
> home or away?
>
> Thanks,
>
> KB

That seems to work flawlessly. Just hooked up my BS DSL and could send and receive her
Comcast mail. Great! Now, as far as her work connection goes. She is a realtor and has a
page with her likeness and company email address on it.

The email service that her webhost gave me these mail settings pop.registeredsite.com for
POP, and smtp.registeredsite.com for SMTP. I tried those on my dsl connection here and can
receive fine, but can't send. Says smtp.registeredsite.com couldn't be found.

The company gets it's dsl line from US LEC, but as far as I know they only use email
through name@theirdomainname.com. Since US LEC is the provider, will using US LEC's smtp
settings send email from name@theirdomainname.com. I know that some webhost do allow smtp,
but I don't think US LEC does.

Thanks. Hope not too vague.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:51 PM
N. Miller
 
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:53:32 -0500, KB wrote:

> The email service that her webhost gave me these mail settings pop.registeredsite.com for
> POP, and smtp.registeredsite.com for SMTP. I tried those on my dsl connection here and can
> receive fine, but can't send. Says smtp.registeredsite.com couldn't be found.


Your DSL is provided by Bellsouth? AFAIK, BS blocks outbound port 25, so
you can reach an SMTP server but a BS SMTP server. I.e., try reaching
smtp.mail.yahoo.com. For anybody using a service which blocks port 25
outbound, unless that service will unblock on request (SBC and DSLExtreme
will do that, Bellsouth won't), your service will not be reachable unless
they listen on the SMTPS port (as Comcast does; port 465), or the RFC 2476
Message Submission port (port 587, as smtp.mail.yahoo.com, among others,
does). I just tried smtp.registeredsite.com, and they do not listen on any
port other than port 25.

> The company gets it's dsl line from US LEC, but as far as I know they only use email
> through name@theirdomainname.com. Since US LEC is the provider, will using US LEC's smtp
> settings send email from name@theirdomainname.com. I know that some webhost do allow smtp,
> but I don't think US LEC does.


That will depend upon the rules of access for the US LEC SMTP server. Most
SMTP servers which don't use authentication by log in use some combination
of IP address and email address verification. When I use mail.pacbell.com,
I _must_ be connected through an SBC IP address; using one of the SBC POPs
leased from Level3 fails, because the server is seeing a Level3 IP address
instead of an SBC IP address.

Since your client has a Comcast account, it would probably be simplest to
set up the Comcast account as you already have done, and not worry about
it. With MS Outlook Express, she could have a different Identity for
different email purposes. Other mail clients offer similar options. I find
that Pegasus Mail offers some really slick options. With an SMTP service
which relies solely on SMTP AUTH, I can configure Pegasus Mail to use a
particular email address int the Return-Path, and a particular HELO string;
neither of which have anything to do with the SMTP service.

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:51 PM
RRR_News
 
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KB,
Your friend needs to contact the mail service for "smtp.registeredsite.com", and
see if they allow other than Port 25 to access the SMTP servers. Most ISP's will
block Port 25, except for their mail servers, in addition, they will block
access to their servers if the person is trying to connect through another ISP
service.

As mentioned before, your friend may have to set up multiple mail dummy accts,
in OE, using the SMTP settings for the different ISP's. Making sure that she
only check mail from one of them for each mail service.

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"KB" <karlb65nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:EVXmf.5050$Y72.2147@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
KB wrote:
> RRR_News wrote:
>
>> KB,
>> She may want to set her Comcast acct like she was traveling. Using
>> different ports for incoming & outgoing mail server. See the following
>> article:
>> http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/inde...k_Express17717
>>
>> In OE> TOOLS> Accounts> Mail Accts> Select Comcast acct> Properties
>> button> Advanced tab> Change the following port settings.
>> Using 465 for Outgoing Mail Server.
>> Using 995 for Incoming Mail Server (This may not be necessary, if mail
>> is not blocked).
>>

> That sounds like a great idea. If I do this can I then only have one
> Comcast acct for her, using these settings, that will work either at
> home or away?
>
> Thanks,
>
> KB

That seems to work flawlessly. Just hooked up my BS DSL and could send and
receive her
Comcast mail. Great! Now, as far as her work connection goes. She is a realtor
and has a
page with her likeness and company email address on it.

The email service that her webhost gave me these mail settings
pop.registeredsite.com for
POP, and smtp.registeredsite.com for SMTP. I tried those on my dsl connection
here and can
receive fine, but can't send. Says smtp.registeredsite.com couldn't be found.

The company gets it's dsl line from US LEC, but as far as I know they only use
email
through name@theirdomainname.com. Since US LEC is the provider, will using US
LEC's smtp
settings send email from name@theirdomainname.com. I know that some webhost do
allow smtp,
but I don't think US LEC does.

Thanks. Hope not too vague.

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:51 PM
KB
 
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RRR_News wrote:
> KB,
> Your friend needs to contact the mail service for "smtp.registeredsite.com", and
> see if they allow other than Port 25 to access the SMTP servers. Most ISP's will
> block Port 25, except for their mail servers, in addition, they will block
> access to their servers if the person is trying to connect through another ISP
> service.
>
> As mentioned before, your friend may have to set up multiple mail dummy accts,
> in OE, using the SMTP settings for the different ISP's. Making sure that she
> only check mail from one of them for each mail service.
>

Hi,

Thanks for all the suggestions and input. I went to the company where she worked and tried
the US LEC mail server settings and was able to send email from there. So, I set her up an
account she can use from work on US LEC and another she can use from home on Comcast.

Thanks again,

KB
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