Any attachment from a particular sender is never received by OE6. The
rest of my co-workers receive attachments from this sender regardless
of what e-mail client they use -- including OE.

I do not have any filters set up whatsoever. The setting in Security
Tab warning of attachments is NOT enabled. The sender is Human
Resources so I need what they send.

From: "badgolferman" <badgolferman@gmail.com>

| Any attachment from a particular sender is never received by OE6. The
| rest of my co-workers receive attachments from this sender regardless
| of what e-mail client they use -- including OE.
|
| I do not have any filters set up whatsoever. The setting in Security
| Tab warning of attachments is NOT enabled. The sender is Human
| Resources so I need what they send.

IS HR using Lotus Notes ?

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

David H. Lipman, 12/14/2005, 11:46:42 AM,
<usDw93MAGHA.1568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> wrote:

> From: "badgolferman" <badgolferman@gmail.com>
>
> > Any attachment from a particular sender is never received by OE6.
> > The rest of my co-workers receive attachments from this sender
> > regardless of what e-mail client they use -- including OE.
> >
> > I do not have any filters set up whatsoever. The setting in
> > Security Tab warning of attachments is NOT enabled. The sender is
> > Human Resources so I need what they send.
>
> IS HR using Lotus Notes ?

I don't think so. Message headers show:
Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55)

--
"Truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it."
~ Flannery O'Connor

The sender is using Microsoft Exchange Server, and most likely Outlook.

If messages are sent using the Exchange family of mail programs
(includes Windows Messaging or Outlook97/98/2000+) and the option to use
Rich Text Format is selected, it puts the RTF message (and any attached
files) in an attachment called WINMAIL.DAT (application/ms-tnef). But
this attachment is useless to most other mail programs. In some mail
programs (e.g. Outlook Express), the attachment won't even be visible.

The Exchange user can turn off the RTF option for messages to selected
recipients. Note that if sending via an Exchange server, the Exchange
server administrator may be overriding the mail client settings. In
this case, the administrator will need to make changes on the server.
In some cases, the Exchange server actually removes the attachments to
some recipients.

Looking at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3), you'll be able to tell if the
attachment is there at all.

For additional information, see the MS-TNEF WINMAIL.DAT Attachments
section of
Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorial
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...de.htm#ms-tnef


--

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"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0eazc70343ptp003@news.readfreenews.net...
> David H. Lipman, 12/14/2005, 11:46:42 AM,
> <usDw93MAGHA.1568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl> wrote:
>
>> From: "badgolferman" <badgolferman@gmail.com>
>>
>> > Any attachment from a particular sender is never received by OE6.
>> > The rest of my co-workers receive attachments from this sender
>> > regardless of what e-mail client they use -- including OE.
>> >
>> > I do not have any filters set up whatsoever. The setting in
>> > Security Tab warning of attachments is NOT enabled. The sender is
>> > Human Resources so I need what they send.
>>
>> IS HR using Lotus Notes ?
>
> I don't think so. Message headers show:
> Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55)
>
> --
> "Truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it."
> ~ Flannery O'Connor

Michael Santovec, 12/14/2005, 2:10:54 PM,
<OnHqdIOAGHA.3136@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl> wrote:

> The sender is using Microsoft Exchange Server, and most likely
> Outlook.
>
> If messages are sent using the Exchange family of mail programs
> (includes Windows Messaging or Outlook97/98/2000+) and the option to
> use Rich Text Format is selected, it puts the RTF message (and any
> attached files) in an attachment called WINMAIL.DAT
> (application/ms-tnef). But this attachment is useless to most other
> mail programs. In some mail programs (e.g. Outlook Express), the
> attachment won't even be visible.
>
> The Exchange user can turn off the RTF option for messages to
> selected recipients. Note that if sending via an Exchange server,
> the Exchange server administrator may be overriding the mail client
> settings. In this case, the administrator will need to make changes
> on the server. In some cases, the Exchange server actually removes
> the attachments to some recipients.
>
> Looking at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3), you'll be able to tell if
> the attachment is there at all.
>
> For additional information, see the MS-TNEF WINMAIL.DAT Attachments
> section of Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorial
> http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...de.htm#ms-tnef

CTRL+F3 shows there is something there. Below the message headers is a
bunch of gobbledy-gook that is obviously the binary attachment.

The big question is why do my co-workers receive the attachment and I
do not? Even those who use OE are recipients and they can get it. I
have to ask them to forward it to me so I can see the attachment.

--
"I do not belong to any organised political party: I'm a democrat."
~ Will Rogers

"badgolferman" <badgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1134576868.963421.181010@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com
> Any attachment from a particular sender is never received by OE6. The
> rest of my co-workers receive attachments from this sender regardless
> of what e-mail client they use -- including OE.
>
> I do not have any filters set up whatsoever. The setting in Security
> Tab warning of attachments is NOT enabled. The sender is Human
> Resources so I need what they send.

If the mail was sent from Outlook using Outlook's RTF format then Outlook
Express will never find the attachment. Outlook Express does not understand
Outlook's RTF format. Ask the Outlook user to please use Plain Text,
especially when sending attachments.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com./athome/sec...t/default.aspx
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE, 12/14/2005,3:40:33 PM, wrote:

> "badgolferman" <badgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1134576868.963421.181010@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com
> > Any attachment from a particular sender is never received by OE6.
> > The rest of my co-workers receive attachments from this sender
> > regardless of what e-mail client they use -- including OE.
> >
> > I do not have any filters set up whatsoever. The setting in
> > Security Tab warning of attachments is NOT enabled. The sender is
> > Human Resources so I need what they send.
>
> If the mail was sent from Outlook using Outlook's RTF format then
> Outlook Express will never find the attachment. Outlook Express does
> not understand Outlook's RTF format. Ask the Outlook user to please
> use Plain Text, especially when sending attachments.

Frank,
Why do the other OE users receive these attachments? I seem to be the
only one having a problem. Other users have OE, Outlook, Thunderbird,
Eudora, Webmail.

--
"Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially
denied."
~ Otto Von Bismark

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0eazlit2uh3pq001@news.microsoft.com
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE, 12/14/2005,3:40:33 PM, wrote:
>
>> "badgolferman" <badgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1134576868.963421.181010@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com
>>> Any attachment from a particular sender is never received by OE6.
>>> The rest of my co-workers receive attachments from this sender
>>> regardless of what e-mail client they use -- including OE.
>>>
>>> I do not have any filters set up whatsoever. The setting in
>>> Security Tab warning of attachments is NOT enabled. The sender is
>>> Human Resources so I need what they send.
>>
>> If the mail was sent from Outlook using Outlook's RTF format then
>> Outlook Express will never find the attachment. Outlook Express does
>> not understand Outlook's RTF format. Ask the Outlook user to please
>> use Plain Text, especially when sending attachments.
>
> Frank,
> Why do the other OE users receive these attachments? I seem to be the
> only one having a problem. Other users have OE, Outlook, Thunderbird,
> Eudora, Webmail.

If those other non-Outlook programs see the attachments the message must not
be in Outlook's RTF format. I'm afraid I don't know what's wrong.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
http://www.fjsmjs.com
Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com./athome/sec...t/default.aspx
http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote:
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0eazlit2uh3pq001@news.microsoft.com
> > Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE, 12/14/2005,3:40:33 PM, wrote:
> >
> >> "badgolferman" <badgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1134576868.963421.181010@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com
> >>> Any attachment from a particular sender is never received by OE6.
> >>> The rest of my co-workers receive attachments from this sender
> >>> regardless of what e-mail client they use -- including OE.
> >>>
> >>> I do not have any filters set up whatsoever. The setting in
> >>> Security Tab warning of attachments is NOT enabled. The sender is
> >>> Human Resources so I need what they send.
> >>
> >> If the mail was sent from Outlook using Outlook's RTF format then
> >> Outlook Express will never find the attachment. Outlook Express does
> >> not understand Outlook's RTF format. Ask the Outlook user to please
> >> use Plain Text, especially when sending attachments.
> >
> > Frank,
> > Why do the other OE users receive these attachments? I seem to be the
> > only one having a problem. Other users have OE, Outlook, Thunderbird,
> > Eudora, Webmail.

> If those other non-Outlook programs see the attachments the message must not
> be in Outlook's RTF format. I'm afraid I don't know what's wrong.

The sender may be sending messages to those other users in plain text.
With Outlook, the sending format is configurable on an address-by-address
basis, and can be overridden when the message is composed.

--
Gary L. Smith
Columbus, Ohio

If it says, application/ms-tnef as the content type, that is your
problem.

The sender in his address book can specify that all messages to you use
Plain Text rather than RTF. That will avoid the problem in the future.

With some 3rd party utilities, you can access the problem attachment.
For details, see:
http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...de.htm#ms-tnef




--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0eazf0737vtll004@news.readfreenews.net...
> Michael Santovec, 12/14/2005, 2:10:54 PM,
> <OnHqdIOAGHA.3136@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl> wrote:
>
>> The sender is using Microsoft Exchange Server, and most likely
>> Outlook.
>>
>> If messages are sent using the Exchange family of mail programs
>> (includes Windows Messaging or Outlook97/98/2000+) and the option to
>> use Rich Text Format is selected, it puts the RTF message (and any
>> attached files) in an attachment called WINMAIL.DAT
>> (application/ms-tnef). But this attachment is useless to most other
>> mail programs. In some mail programs (e.g. Outlook Express), the
>> attachment won't even be visible.
>>
>> The Exchange user can turn off the RTF option for messages to
>> selected recipients. Note that if sending via an Exchange server,
>> the Exchange server administrator may be overriding the mail client
>> settings. In this case, the administrator will need to make changes
>> on the server. In some cases, the Exchange server actually removes
>> the attachments to some recipients.
>>
>> Looking at the Message Source (Ctrl-F3), you'll be able to tell if
>> the attachment is there at all.
>>
>> For additional information, see the MS-TNEF WINMAIL.DAT Attachments
>> section of Decoding Internet Attachments - A Tutorial
>> http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_san...de.htm#ms-tnef
>
> CTRL+F3 shows there is something there. Below the message headers is
> a
> bunch of gobbledy-gook that is obviously the binary attachment.
>
> The big question is why do my co-workers receive the attachment and I
> do not? Even those who use OE are recipients and they can get it. I
> have to ask them to forward it to me so I can see the attachment.
>
> --
> "I do not belong to any organised political party: I'm a democrat."
> ~ Will Rogers