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Old 01-05-2006, 04:56 PM
KB
 
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Hi,

Hope I can explain this and that it is not a stupid question, but...

Suppose you are using 2 different outgoing mail servers (on a laptop) for your company emails:

Examples:

mail.comcast.net for when you are at home and want to send mail for me@mycompany.net
mail.bellsouth.net for when at work and using the dsl line provided by bellsouth

If you receive an email at home for me@mycompany.net and reply to it, do you have to
select in your account drop down list, your comcast acct since you are at home, or

can you just reply and it will use comcast automatically, and

If you do use Comcast as the outgoing server will the person receiving the msg see it as
coming from me@mycompany.net and when replying will it come back to me@mycompany.net
without me having to put the reply to address in as such?

Hope that makes sense.

I set up 2 different accounts for someone to be able to receive his email for work - one
acct uses the company's dsl providers mail servers for smtp, and the other uses their home
account, which is Comcast. If he receives an email while connected at work, can he then go
home and reply to it using the Comcast server?

Thanks,

KB

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:56 PM
Opinicus
 
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"KB" <karlb65nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:wPzsf.69596$k76.40485@bignews6.bellsouth.net. ..

> Suppose you are using 2 different outgoing mail servers (on a laptop) for
> your company emails:
> Examples:
> mail.comcast.net for when you are at home and want to send mail for
> me@mycompany.net
> mail.bellsouth.net for when at work and using the dsl line provided by
> bellsouth
> If you receive an email at home for me@mycompany.net and reply to it, do
> you have to select in your account drop down list, your comcast acct since
> you are at home, or
> can you just reply and it will use comcast automatically, and
> If you do use Comcast as the outgoing server will the person receiving the
> msg see it as coming from me@mycompany.net and when replying will it come
> back to me@mycompany.net without me having to put the reply to address in
> as such?
> Hope that makes sense.
> I set up 2 different accounts for someone to be able to receive his email
> for work - one acct uses the company's dsl providers mail servers for
> smtp, and the other uses their home account, which is Comcast. If he
> receives an email while connected at work, can he then go home and reply
> to it using the Comcast server?


Whenever you replay to an email, the address that the email was actually
delivered to is the one that will appear in the "From" line as the default.
If you click on the drop-down menu arrow at the right of the "From" line,
you will see the other accounts that are available and you can choose
whichever one you want. The person receiving that email will only see the
"From" address that you choose.

On my OE setup I have three email addresses and accounts. One of them
(gezgin@spamcop.net) is public and the other two are private. (I don't give
them to anybody.) All my incoming mail goes to the gezgin address. Spamcop
passes on (filtered) incoming mail to one of my private accounts. When I
reply to received messages, I have to be careful to pick the
gezgin@spamcop.net address in the "From" line because the default sending
address will be the private one that the mail was actually delivered to. (I
have to do it this way because the servers for my two private addresses will
not let me send mail with an email address other than my "real" one--the one
they recognize. This is an inconvenience but worth it to me because of the
spam filtering/reporting capabilities that SpamCop provides.) People who
receive mail from me never see anything but the gezgin address.

--
Bob
http://www.kanyak.com


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Old 01-05-2006, 04:56 PM
KB
 
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Opinicus wrote:
> "KB" <karlb65nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:wPzsf.69596$k76.40485@bignews6.bellsouth.net. ..
>
>
>>Suppose you are using 2 different outgoing mail servers (on a laptop) for
>>your company emails:
>>Examples:
>>mail.comcast.net for when you are at home and want to send mail for
>>me@mycompany.net
>>mail.bellsouth.net for when at work and using the dsl line provided by
>>bellsouth
>>If you receive an email at home for me@mycompany.net and reply to it, do
>>you have to select in your account drop down list, your comcast acct since
>>you are at home, or
>>can you just reply and it will use comcast automatically, and
>>If you do use Comcast as the outgoing server will the person receiving the
>>msg see it as coming from me@mycompany.net and when replying will it come
>>back to me@mycompany.net without me having to put the reply to address in
>>as such?
>>Hope that makes sense.
>>I set up 2 different accounts for someone to be able to receive his email
>>for work - one acct uses the company's dsl providers mail servers for
>>smtp, and the other uses their home account, which is Comcast. If he
>>receives an email while connected at work, can he then go home and reply
>>to it using the Comcast server?

>
>
> Whenever you replay to an email, the address that the email was actually
> delivered to is the one that will appear in the "From" line as the default.
> If you click on the drop-down menu arrow at the right of the "From" line,
> you will see the other accounts that are available and you can choose
> whichever one you want. The person receiving that email will only see the
> "From" address that you choose.
>
> On my OE setup I have three email addresses and accounts. One of them
> (gezgin@spamcop.net) is public and the other two are private. (I don't give
> them to anybody.) All my incoming mail goes to the gezgin address. Spamcop
> passes on (filtered) incoming mail to one of my private accounts. When I
> reply to received messages, I have to be careful to pick the
> gezgin@spamcop.net address in the "From" line because the default sending
> address will be the private one that the mail was actually delivered to. (I
> have to do it this way because the servers for my two private addresses will
> not let me send mail with an email address other than my "real" one--the one
> they recognize. This is an inconvenience but worth it to me because of the
> spam filtering/reporting capabilities that SpamCop provides.) People who
> receive mail from me never see anything but the gezgin address.
>

The problem is that the webhost at the company allows you to use their incoming mail
server for company email, but for outgoing you have to provide a server, so they I set him
up on US LEC for smtp. I created a second account called Company Mail - HOME and used his
comcast settings for smtp. Seems the problem is that he receives an email, then tries to
reply from home using the wrong account, gets an error message, then freaks out

I tried explaining that when at home reply using Company Mail-HOME, and when at work use
the WORK account (they both contain the same email address, just use different smtp
servers). Maybe in hindsight I should have just set up the acct to ONLY work from the
office, but was trying to go the extra mile and give some convenience.

It's a real mess at her company anyway. 3 employees were using Bellsouth and nobody knew
the company even was paying for Bellsouth, and the rest were unable to get email because
the person who was setting up their laptops used neither Bellsouth or US LEC smpt
settings. Instead, they used pop.registersite.com (tech support told me that if it didn't
work for smtp, I would have to use the co's dsl provider's server settings). The boss had
an assistant who was acting as IT person who has now quit. She registered a new website
address with as a .org, so that now half the people are on the .org email address, and
some on the .com address. The .org addresses are listed for the employees on the website,
so the ones on .com address get no email. It's a big mess...did I mention? So, the company
is paying BS who knows what per month just for 3 people's email, but uses US LECs dsl (I
am getting way off topic, but how do you have 2 dsl lines for one company on one phone
system?)
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:56 PM
N. Miller
 
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:31:55 -0500, KB wrote:

> The problem is that the webhost at the company allows you to use their incoming mail
> server for company email, but for outgoing you have to provide a server, so they I set him
> up on US LEC for smtp. I created a second account called Company Mail - HOME and used his
> comcast settings for smtp. Seems the problem is that he receives an email, then tries to
> reply from home using the wrong account, gets an error message, then freaks out
>
> I tried explaining that when at home reply using Company Mail-HOME, and when at work use
> the WORK account (they both contain the same email address, just use different smtp
> servers). Maybe in hindsight I should have just set up the acct to ONLY work from the
> office, but was trying to go the extra mile and give some convenience.
>
> It's a real mess at her company anyway. 3 employees were using Bellsouth and nobody knew
> the company even was paying for Bellsouth, and the rest were unable to get email because
> the person who was setting up their laptops used neither Bellsouth or US LEC smpt
> settings. Instead, they used pop.registersite.com (tech support told me that if it didn't
> work for smtp, I would have to use the co's dsl provider's server settings). The boss had
> an assistant who was acting as IT person who has now quit. She registered a new website
> address with as a .org, so that now half the people are on the .org email address, and
> some on the .com address. The .org addresses are listed for the employees on the website,
> so the ones on .com address get no email. It's a big mess...did I mention? So, the company
> is paying BS who knows what per month just for 3 people's email, but uses US LECs dsl (I
> am getting way off topic, but how do you have 2 dsl lines for one company on one phone
> system?)


One phone system, or one phone line? Not the same thing. If the phone
system had multiple lines, they can have one DSL account per phone line.

Back to the problem at hand. You need to check out the web hosting
provider. They should offer email service, along with the web service. If
so, move all of your users to that SMTP server. Hopefully, their SMTP
server will use port 587 for email submission; that should be the standard
port used by all non-local email providers, now (where "non-local" means
not associated with a user's ISP). If they do not offer SMTP service, look
for a web hosting provider which does offer email accounts with the web
hosting service.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:56 PM
KB
 
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N. Miller wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:31:55 -0500, KB wrote:
>
>
>>The problem is that the webhost at the company allows you to use their incoming mail
>>server for company email, but for outgoing you have to provide a server, so they I set him
>>up on US LEC for smtp. I created a second account called Company Mail - HOME and used his
>>comcast settings for smtp. Seems the problem is that he receives an email, then tries to
>>reply from home using the wrong account, gets an error message, then freaks out
>>
>>I tried explaining that when at home reply using Company Mail-HOME, and when at work use
>>the WORK account (they both contain the same email address, just use different smtp
>>servers). Maybe in hindsight I should have just set up the acct to ONLY work from the
>>office, but was trying to go the extra mile and give some convenience.
>>
>>It's a real mess at her company anyway. 3 employees were using Bellsouth and nobody knew
>>the company even was paying for Bellsouth, and the rest were unable to get email because
>>the person who was setting up their laptops used neither Bellsouth or US LEC smpt
>>settings. Instead, they used pop.registersite.com (tech support told me that if it didn't
>>work for smtp, I would have to use the co's dsl provider's server settings). The boss had
>>an assistant who was acting as IT person who has now quit. She registered a new website
>>address with as a .org, so that now half the people are on the .org email address, and
>>some on the .com address. The .org addresses are listed for the employees on the website,
>>so the ones on .com address get no email. It's a big mess...did I mention? So, the company
>>is paying BS who knows what per month just for 3 people's email, but uses US LECs dsl (I
>>am getting way off topic, but how do you have 2 dsl lines for one company on one phone
>>system?)

>
>
> One phone system, or one phone line? Not the same thing. If the phone
> system had multiple lines, they can have one DSL account per phone line.
>
> Back to the problem at hand. You need to check out the web hosting
> provider. They should offer email service, along with the web service. If
> so, move all of your users to that SMTP server. Hopefully, their SMTP
> server will use port 587 for email submission; that should be the standard
> port used by all non-local email providers, now (where "non-local" means
> not associated with a user's ISP). If they do not offer SMTP service, look
> for a web hosting provider which does offer email accounts with the web
> hosting service.
>

It is complicated and since I am getting this info secondhand from an employee I am cloudy
on some of it. Are you saying that could have both Bellsouth and US LEC running
simultaneously?

I think the company plans to go to a different provider even than the two above, so they
will most likely have only one dsl line that everyone will use. The current webhosting
company told me that smtp.registeredsite.com would work for outgoing, but it does not. I
agree that they should get a host that allows smtp, but they have no IT person and
basically left it up to the receptionist to handle it (and she's a mucho control freak who
now thinks she IS an IT professional, but knows little except what the defunct IT person
told her).

Anyway, I think it makes no sense to use both providers for a connection. There are less
than 20 people and most of them are not in the office regulary because they are out in the
field.

As far as the phones go (and they plan to change that service too), it has the main number
which people call, and then the phones the employees call out on which shows an entirely
different number on the caller id, so I don't know if that is considered one line or a
system
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:56 PM
KB
 
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KB wrote:
> N. Miller wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:31:55 -0500, KB wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The problem is that the webhost at the company allows you to use
>>> their incoming mail server for company email, but for outgoing you
>>> have to provide a server, so they I set him up on US LEC for smtp. I
>>> created a second account called Company Mail - HOME and used his
>>> comcast settings for smtp. Seems the problem is that he receives an
>>> email, then tries to reply from home using the wrong account, gets an
>>> error message, then freaks out
>>>
>>> I tried explaining that when at home reply using Company Mail-HOME,
>>> and when at work use the WORK account (they both contain the same
>>> email address, just use different smtp servers). Maybe in hindsight I
>>> should have just set up the acct to ONLY work from the office, but
>>> was trying to go the extra mile and give some convenience.
>>>
>>> It's a real mess at her company anyway. 3 employees were using
>>> Bellsouth and nobody knew the company even was paying for Bellsouth,
>>> and the rest were unable to get email because the person who was
>>> setting up their laptops used neither Bellsouth or US LEC smpt
>>> settings. Instead, they used pop.registersite.com (tech support told
>>> me that if it didn't work for smtp, I would have to use the co's dsl
>>> provider's server settings). The boss had an assistant who was acting
>>> as IT person who has now quit. She registered a new website address
>>> with as a .org, so that now half the people are on the .org email
>>> address, and some on the .com address. The .org addresses are listed
>>> for the employees on the website, so the ones on .com address get no
>>> email. It's a big mess...did I mention? So, the company is paying BS
>>> who knows what per month just for 3 people's email, but uses US LECs
>>> dsl (I am getting way off topic, but how do you have 2 dsl lines for
>>> one company on one phone system?)

>>
>>
>>
>> One phone system, or one phone line? Not the same thing. If the phone
>> system had multiple lines, they can have one DSL account per phone line.
>>
>> Back to the problem at hand. You need to check out the web hosting
>> provider. They should offer email service, along with the web service. If
>> so, move all of your users to that SMTP server. Hopefully, their SMTP
>> server will use port 587 for email submission; that should be the
>> standard
>> port used by all non-local email providers, now (where "non-local" means
>> not associated with a user's ISP). If they do not offer SMTP service,
>> look
>> for a web hosting provider which does offer email accounts with the web
>> hosting service.
>>

> It is complicated and since I am getting this info secondhand from an
> employee I am cloudy on some of it. Are you saying that could have both
> Bellsouth and US LEC running simultaneously?
>
> I think the company plans to go to a different provider even than the
> two above, so they will most likely have only one dsl line that everyone
> will use. The current webhosting company told me that
> smtp.registeredsite.com would work for outgoing, but it does not. I
> agree that they should get a host that allows smtp, but they have no IT
> person and basically left it up to the receptionist to handle it (and
> she's a mucho control freak who now thinks she IS an IT professional,
> but knows little except what the defunct IT person told her).s
>
> Anyway, I think it makes no sense to use both providers for a
> connection. There are less than 20 people and most of them are not in
> the office regulary because they are out in the field.
>
> As far as the phones go (and they plan to change that service too), it
> has the main number which people call, and then the phones the employees
> call out on which shows an entirely different number on the caller id,
> so I don't know if that is considered one line or a system

Also, supposing you did not want to bother with switching webhost. Would it still be okay
to use whomever they choose for carrier for the mail server?
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:56 PM
PA Bear
 
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When sending, you must be connected to the ISP whose SMTP server you're
using to send mail. It's most doubtful you'd be able to send from
me@mycompany.net or me@comcast.net using the Bellsouth SMTP server at home,
and vice versa.

By default, OE will use the mail address to which the original message was
sent when Replying To or Forwarding the message.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

KB wrote:
> Suppose you are using 2 different outgoing mail servers (on a laptop) for
> your company emails:
> Examples:
>
> mail.comcast.net for when you are at home and want to send mail for
> me@mycompany.net
>
> mail.bellsouth.net for when at work and using the dsl
> line provided by bellsouth
> If you receive an email at home for me@mycompany.net and reply to it, do
> you have to select in your account drop down list, your comcast acct since
> you are at
> home, or
> can you just reply and it will use comcast automatically, and
>
> If you do use Comcast as the outgoing server will the person receiving
> the msg see it as coming from me@mycompany.net and when replying will it
> come back to me@mycompany.net without me having to put the reply to
> address in as such?
>
> Hope that makes sense.
>
> I set up 2 different accounts for someone to be able to receive his email
> for work - one acct uses the company's dsl providers mail servers for
> smtp, and the
> other uses their home account, which is Comcast. If he receives an email
> while connected at work, can he then go home and reply to it using the
> Comcast server?


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