Hello again,

SIZE CONFUSION

Sorry for the size confusion. It is indeed a huge database, which is split
into 317 *.dbx files in the Outlook Express database folder. All togheter
make those 3.96 GB

WHAT I'VE FOUND

Well, until now I've followed all your directions and found this:

1. Inbox folder contains 208 sub-folders, with 2004 messages, 151 still
unread.
2. Sent Items folder contains 3 sub-folders, with 3856 messges on them.
3. Deleted Items has no messages or sub-folders.
4. There are four folders (Personal, In Process, Allegro+CD and Registrations)

In Process = 5 sub-folders, 40 messages
Personal = 73 sub-folders, 3402 messages
Allegro+CD = 20 messages
Registrations = 21 sub-folders, 623 messages

UNTIL NOW

1. I've disabled the AV protection - Installed AV was Norton Internet
Security 2004 with Norton Anti-Spam

2. SP-2 for Windows XP was installed yesterday, after I received the
computer. This probably means that Background Compactation was active and
working before, and possibly corrupting the database.

3. I've found 79 *.dbx files which names ends with a (1) like
"others(1).dbx" or other number. I understand for what I've read that those
files are created when the original file gets corrupted. So there are the new
(1) files and the old files there.

4. I've deleted and re-created all the folder files. Now the mail messages
are being received correctly. It was obviously some corrution there.

Well can anyone give some extra advice?
How can I make this and previous posts sent to me by mail ?
It could be useful and convincing for my client to read them also.

I'll be waiting, in the mean time, if every one of you, fine people
don't hear a word from me tomorrow, Have a Happy New Year 2006 !

Sincerely,

--
Edwin A. Gonzalez F.
Spectrum Computer, Co.
Panama, Rep. of Panama

Ron Sommer wrote:

> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
> news:%23P0RJOaDGHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>>PA Bear wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see)
>>>>huge,
>>>>that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge Christmass
>>>>tree
>>>
>>>
>>>Ouch!
>>
>>In some countries, like Spanish speaking ones, 3,096 would be 3.096. In
>>other words, 1,000 would be 1. Also, a billion would be one thousand
>>million.
>>
>>--
>>Alias
>>
>>Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
>>Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
>
>
> Do you have a reference for your number information?
> If 3,096 would be 3.096. then what would 3.096 be?

Three thousand ninety six, of course. As the other poster said, check
your regional settings in the control panel for verification.

--
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
news:ewSIeLgDGHA.2436@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Ron Sommer wrote:
>
>> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
>> news:%23P0RJOaDGHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>PA Bear wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see)
>>>>>huge,
>>>>>that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge Christmass
>>>>>tree
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ouch!
>>>
>>>In some countries, like Spanish speaking ones, 3,096 would be 3.096. In
>>>other words, 1,000 would be 1. Also, a billion would be one thousand
>>>million.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Alias
>>>
>>>Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
>>>Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
>>
>>
>> Do you have a reference for your number information?
>> If 3,096 would be 3.096. then what would 3.096 be?
>
> Three thousand ninety six, of course. As the other poster said, check your
> regional settings in the control panel for verification.
>
> --
> Alias
>
> Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
> Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

How do you numerically write three and ninety-six thousandths?
--
Ron Sommer

Ron Sommer wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
> news:ewSIeLgDGHA.2436@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
>>Ron Sommer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
>>>news:%23P0RJOaDGHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>>>PA Bear wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see)
>>>>>>huge,
>>>>>>that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge Christmass
>>>>>>tree
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ouch!
>>>>
>>>>In some countries, like Spanish speaking ones, 3,096 would be 3.096. In
>>>>other words, 1,000 would be 1. Also, a billion would be one thousand
>>>>million.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Alias
>>>>
>>>>Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
>>>>Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
>>>
>>>
>>>Do you have a reference for your number information?
>>>If 3,096 would be 3.096. then what would 3.096 be?
>>
>>Three thousand ninety six, of course. As the other poster said, check your
>>regional settings in the control panel for verification.
>>
>>--
>>Alias
>>
>>Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
>>Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
>
>
> How do you numerically write three and ninety-six thousandths?

3,096, what else? IOW, the coma is a period and the period is a coma.

--
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

> 1. Inbox folder contains 208 sub-folders, with 2004 messages, 151 still
> unread.

They only appear as sub-folders of Inbox in Folders pane (one of the jobs
taken care of by Folders.dbx). In actuality, they're in no way related to
Inbox.dbx => Compact all OE folders on a regular basis.

> 2. Sent Items folder contains 3 sub-folders, with 3856 messges on them.

Big mistake! Don't use Sent Items for archiving: Create other Local folders
for this purpose and move the message to them, keeping Sent Items as empty
as possible.

> 3. I've found 79 *.dbx files which names ends with a (1) like
> "others(1).dbx" or other number.

The DBX files without a number are the ones currently in use. The ones
appended by a number are the old, corrupt/damaged ones.

> Well can anyone give some extra advice?

As posted earlier:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.
- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
- Disable Background Compacting [N/A in SP2] and frequently perform a manual
compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm.
- Do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
Automatic Compacting is taking place (WinXP SP2 only).
- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.

Your client should consider:

- archiving to another OE identity or to a backup medium (if instant access
to archive messages isn't needed)

- backing up his/her current store on a regular basis (see
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...af2fa0a663b9eb)

Also see:

Information about the maximum file size of the .dbx files that are used by
Outlook Express:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=903095

(The author of the article has his head in a fog: Many users see degradation
when the size of their entire store (not just a given DBX file) approaches
1GB.

> How can I make this and previous posts sent to me by mail ?
> It could be useful and convincing for my client to read them also.

One would think that the loss of messages (s)he experienced would be enough
to convince him/her of the error of his/her ways. This entire thread is
archived here: http://snipurl.com/l6q7
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org


Edwin Gonzalez wrote:
> Hello again,
>
> SIZE CONFUSION
>
> Sorry for the size confusion. It is indeed a huge database, which is split
> into 317 *.dbx files in the Outlook Express database folder. All togheter
> make those 3.96 GB
>
> WHAT I'VE FOUND
>
> Well, until now I've followed all your directions and found this:
>
> 1. Inbox folder contains 208 sub-folders, with 2004 messages, 151 still
> unread.
> 2. Sent Items folder contains 3 sub-folders, with 3856 messges on them.
> 3. Deleted Items has no messages or sub-folders.
> 4. There are four folders (Personal, In Process, Allegro+CD and
> Registrations)
>
> In Process = 5 sub-folders, 40 messages
> Personal = 73 sub-folders, 3402 messages
> Allegro+CD = 20 messages
> Registrations = 21 sub-folders, 623 messages
>
> UNTIL NOW
>
> 1. I've disabled the AV protection - Installed AV was Norton Internet
> Security 2004 with Norton Anti-Spam
>
> 2. SP-2 for Windows XP was installed yesterday, after I received the
> computer. This probably means that Background Compactation was active and
> working before, and possibly corrupting the database.
>
> 3. I've found 79 *.dbx files which names ends with a (1) like
> "others(1).dbx" or other number. I understand for what I've read that
> those files are created when the original file gets corrupted. So there
> are the new (1) files and the old files there.
>
> 4. I've deleted and re-created all the folder files. Now the mail messages
> are being received correctly. It was obviously some corrution there.
>
> Well can anyone give some extra advice?
> How can I make this and previous posts sent to me by mail ?
> It could be useful and convincing for my client to read them also.
>
> I'll be waiting, in the mean time, if every one of you, fine people
> don't hear a word from me tomorrow, Have a Happy New Year 2006 !
>
> Sincerely,

I would backup everything first and then go to File | Identities and set up
a new Identity. Then import the messages from the older Identity as needed.

Then backup the new Identity.

see also www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx

steve

"Edwin Gonzalez" <EdwinGonzalez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9BDE06E4-0DB2-4B63-8B68-ABA14DB0D2E6@microsoft.com...
> Hello again,
>
> SIZE CONFUSION
>
> Sorry for the size confusion. It is indeed a huge database, which is split
> into 317 *.dbx files in the Outlook Express database folder. All togheter
> make those 3.96 GB
>
> WHAT I'VE FOUND
>
> Well, until now I've followed all your directions and found this:
>
> 1. Inbox folder contains 208 sub-folders, with 2004 messages, 151 still
> unread.
> 2. Sent Items folder contains 3 sub-folders, with 3856 messges on them.
> 3. Deleted Items has no messages or sub-folders.
> 4. There are four folders (Personal, In Process, Allegro+CD and
> Registrations)
>
> In Process = 5 sub-folders, 40 messages
> Personal = 73 sub-folders, 3402 messages
> Allegro+CD = 20 messages
> Registrations = 21 sub-folders, 623 messages
>
> UNTIL NOW
>
> 1. I've disabled the AV protection - Installed AV was Norton Internet
> Security 2004 with Norton Anti-Spam
>
> 2. SP-2 for Windows XP was installed yesterday, after I received the
> computer. This probably means that Background Compactation was active and
> working before, and possibly corrupting the database.
>
> 3. I've found 79 *.dbx files which names ends with a (1) like
> "others(1).dbx" or other number. I understand for what I've read that
> those
> files are created when the original file gets corrupted. So there are the
> new
> (1) files and the old files there.
>
> 4. I've deleted and re-created all the folder files. Now the mail messages
> are being received correctly. It was obviously some corrution there.
>
> Well can anyone give some extra advice?
> How can I make this and previous posts sent to me by mail ?
> It could be useful and convincing for my client to read them also.
>
> I'll be waiting, in the mean time, if every one of you, fine people
> don't hear a word from me tomorrow, Have a Happy New Year 2006 !
>
> Sincerely,
>
> --
> Edwin A. Gonzalez F.
> Spectrum Computer, Co.
> Panama, Rep. of Panama