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Old 01-05-2006, 04:58 PM
Will
 
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Default Any Way to Move Single Newsgroups Between Users?

Is there any way to move over a *single* database file containing one
newsgroup store from OE 6 on one user's installation to another user's
installation? Is there a standard procedure for this, or if not is there a
third party utility that can do this kind of fine-grained movement of
information?

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:58 PM
Vanguard
 
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"Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
newsZidnbW44euz8yXenZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> Is there any way to move over a *single* database file containing one
> newsgroup store from OE 6 on one user's installation to another user's
> installation? Is there a standard procedure for this, or if not is there
> a
> third party utility that can do this kind of fine-grained movement of
> information?



Check your other same post submitted 4 minutes later.

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:58 PM
Jim Pickering
 
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Default Re: Any Way to Move Single Newsgroups Between Users?

No, since newsgroups are "keyed" to a specific identity on each computer and
the info is contained in both the newsgroup.named.DBX file and also in the
identities folders.DBX file.

The only way would be to create a newsgroup on the second computer and only
download a few messages into it. Then take the other DBX file from the
message store folder on the first computer and overwrite the newly created
one in the second computer.

It's easier if you first "clone" the second computer to match the settings
on the first computer. To read about cloning, see the info at this link:
http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
newsZidnbW44euz8yXenZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> Is there any way to move over a *single* database file containing one
> newsgroup store from OE 6 on one user's installation to another user's
> installation? Is there a standard procedure for this, or if not is there
> a
> third party utility that can do this kind of fine-grained movement of
> information?
>
> --
> Will
>
>


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Old 01-05-2006, 04:58 PM
Will
 
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Default Re: Any Way to Move Single Newsgroups Between Users?

What is the name of the identities folder?

If I take the DBX file from the older computer to the new one, I don't
understand how is this going to patch up the reference to it in the
Identities DBX file?

--
Will

"Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:evo7QNzDGHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> No, since newsgroups are "keyed" to a specific identity on each computer

and
> the info is contained in both the newsgroup.named.DBX file and also in the
> identities folders.DBX file.
>
> The only way would be to create a newsgroup on the second computer and

only
> download a few messages into it. Then take the other DBX file from the
> message store folder on the first computer and overwrite the newly created
> one in the second computer.
>
> It's easier if you first "clone" the second computer to match the settings
> on the first computer. To read about cloning, see the info at this link:
> http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
>

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
> Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
> Thanks.
>
>
> "Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
> newsZidnbW44euz8yXenZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> > Is there any way to move over a *single* database file containing one
> > newsgroup store from OE 6 on one user's installation to another user's
> > installation? Is there a standard procedure for this, or if not is

there
> > a
> > third party utility that can do this kind of fine-grained movement of
> > information?
> >
> > --
> > Will
> >
> >

>



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Old 01-05-2006, 04:58 PM
Will
 
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Default Re: Any Way to Move Single Newsgroups Between Users?

This thread is different than the other one I posted. This thread is about
moving single newsgroups from one user account to the another. The other
thread was about finding a more flexible way to configure the number of
headers that are downloaded for each newsgroup. I'm not sure why you
thought they were even similar questions?

--
Will

"Vanguard" <vanguard.code@comcastNIX.net> wrote in message
news:O%23qd0FzDGHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> "Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
> newsZidnbW44euz8yXenZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> > Is there any way to move over a *single* database file containing one
> > newsgroup store from OE 6 on one user's installation to another user's
> > installation? Is there a standard procedure for this, or if not is

there
> > a
> > third party utility that can do this kind of fine-grained movement of
> > information?

>
>
> Check your other same post submitted 4 minutes later.
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 04:59 PM
Jim Pickering
 
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Default Re: Any Way to Move Single Newsgroups Between Users?

"Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
news:HJOdnTnBTfky5CXeRVn-jA@giganews.com...
> What is the name of the identities folder?


Depends on how many identities are created on the computer. Each is
identitified in the registry with a big, long number called a GUID (Globally
Unique IDentifier) and if you click on the big, long number, the name
assigned to that identity will appear in the right hand pane.
>
> If I take the DBX file from the older computer to the new one, I don't
> understand how is this going to patch up the reference to it in the
> Identities DBX file?
>


There is no guarantee that it will work, but it has worked for many hundreds
of other users. Try it and see if it works for you.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6



> --
> Will
>
> "Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:evo7QNzDGHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> No, since newsgroups are "keyed" to a specific identity on each computer

> and
>> the info is contained in both the newsgroup.named.DBX file and also in
>> the
>> identities folders.DBX file.
>>
>> The only way would be to create a newsgroup on the second computer and

> only
>> download a few messages into it. Then take the other DBX file from the
>> message store folder on the first computer and overwrite the newly
>> created
>> one in the second computer.
>>
>> It's easier if you first "clone" the second computer to match the
>> settings
>> on the first computer. To read about cloning, see the info at this link:
>> http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm
>> --
>> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
>>

> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
>> Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> "Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
>> newsZidnbW44euz8yXenZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> > Is there any way to move over a *single* database file containing one
>> > newsgroup store from OE 6 on one user's installation to another user's
>> > installation? Is there a standard procedure for this, or if not is

> there
>> > a
>> > third party utility that can do this kind of fine-grained movement of
>> > information?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Will
>> >
>> >

>>

>
>


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Old 01-05-2006, 04:59 PM
Will
 
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Default Re: Any Way to Move Single Newsgroups Between Users?

What is the registry location for the GUID information?

What is the physical location on the file system for the identities DBX file
you referred to earlier?

--
Will

"Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OrD%233G0DGHA.3856@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> "Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
> news:HJOdnTnBTfky5CXeRVn-jA@giganews.com...
> > What is the name of the identities folder?

>
> Depends on how many identities are created on the computer. Each is
> identitified in the registry with a big, long number called a GUID

(Globally
> Unique IDentifier) and if you click on the big, long number, the name
> assigned to that identity will appear in the right hand pane.
> >
> > If I take the DBX file from the older computer to the new one, I don't
> > understand how is this going to patch up the reference to it in the
> > Identities DBX file?
> >

>
> There is no guarantee that it will work, but it has worked for many

hundreds
> of other users. Try it and see if it works for you.
> --
> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
>

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
>
>
>
> > --
> > Will
> >
> > "Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:evo7QNzDGHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> No, since newsgroups are "keyed" to a specific identity on each

computer
> > and
> >> the info is contained in both the newsgroup.named.DBX file and also in
> >> the
> >> identities folders.DBX file.
> >>
> >> The only way would be to create a newsgroup on the second computer and

> > only
> >> download a few messages into it. Then take the other DBX file from the
> >> message store folder on the first computer and overwrite the newly
> >> created
> >> one in the second computer.
> >>
> >> It's easier if you first "clone" the second computer to match the
> >> settings
> >> on the first computer. To read about cloning, see the info at this

link:
> >> http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm
> >> --
> >> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
> >>

> >

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
> >> Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
> >> newsZidnbW44euz8yXenZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >> > Is there any way to move over a *single* database file containing one
> >> > newsgroup store from OE 6 on one user's installation to another

user's
> >> > installation? Is there a standard procedure for this, or if not is

> > there
> >> > a
> >> > third party utility that can do this kind of fine-grained movement of
> >> > information?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Will
> >> >
> >> >
> >>

> >
> >

>



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Old 01-05-2006, 04:59 PM
Vanguard
 
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Default Re: Any Way to Move Single Newsgroups Between Users?

"Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
news:8ZadnRwojcGl5yXenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> This thread is different than the other one I posted. This thread is
> about
> moving single newsgroups from one user account to the another. The other
> thread was about finding a more flexible way to configure the number of
> headers that are downloaded for each newsgroup. I'm not sure why you
> thought they were even similar questions?



Yep, my mistake. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/270670/en-us might help.
I keep my message store on a different drive (along with all my other data
so a fresh install of the OS doesn't wipe my data). All I have to do in OE
is to change where is my message store: Tools -> Options -> Maintenance ->
Store Folder. I will lose the account definitions unless I previously
exported them (Tools -> Accounts -> pick an account and click Export) so I
can import them in the new install of OE under the fresh install of Windows.

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:59 PM
Will
 
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Default Re: Any Way to Move Single Newsgroups Between Users?


"Vanguard" <vanguard.code@comcastNIX.net> wrote in message
news:Ov6xCv0DGHA.2924@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Yep, my mistake. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/270670/en-us might help.
> I keep my message store on a different drive (along with all my other data
> so a fresh install of the OS doesn't wipe my data). All I have to do in

OE
> is to change where is my message store: Tools -> Options -> Maintenance ->
> Store Folder. I will lose the account definitions unless I previously
> exported them (Tools -> Accounts -> pick an account and click Export) so I
> can import them in the new install of OE under the fresh install of

Windows.

Okay, that is really helpful thanks. The account I need to export is on
Windows 2000 which no longer boots correctly on this machine. Is there a
way for me to export that account by pointing to something on a file system
rather than by being logged in as the user?

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:59 PM
Jim Pickering
 
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Default Re: Any Way to Move Single Newsgroups Between Users?

You will find the GUIDs for identities created at this key in the registry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{big, long number for each
GUID}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0

To locate your message store folder containing all the DBX files, open
Outlook Express, click Tools/Options/Maintenance and then click Store Folder
button. Highlight the path (if not already highlighted) by using the Tab
key to move about the page, then press Ctrl+C to copy it to the clipboard.
Open Notepad and use Ctrl+V to paste it in. Or with Outlook Express closed,
open Windows Explorer and insert the path into the Address Bar (Ctrl+V
again) and Explorer will open the folder containing the DBX files.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
news:3YGdnZ92EaBzCCXenZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> What is the registry location for the GUID information?
>
> What is the physical location on the file system for the identities DBX
> file
> you referred to earlier?
>
> --
> Will
>
> "Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OrD%233G0DGHA.3856@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> "Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
>> news:HJOdnTnBTfky5CXeRVn-jA@giganews.com...
>> > What is the name of the identities folder?

>>
>> Depends on how many identities are created on the computer. Each is
>> identitified in the registry with a big, long number called a GUID

> (Globally
>> Unique IDentifier) and if you click on the big, long number, the name
>> assigned to that identity will appear in the right hand pane.
>> >
>> > If I take the DBX file from the older computer to the new one, I don't
>> > understand how is this going to patch up the reference to it in the
>> > Identities DBX file?
>> >

>>
>> There is no guarantee that it will work, but it has worked for many

> hundreds
>> of other users. Try it and see if it works for you.
>> --
>> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
>>

> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
>>
>>
>>
>> > --
>> > Will
>> >
>> > "Jim Pickering" <jim.pickering@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:evo7QNzDGHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> No, since newsgroups are "keyed" to a specific identity on each

> computer
>> > and
>> >> the info is contained in both the newsgroup.named.DBX file and also in
>> >> the
>> >> identities folders.DBX file.
>> >>
>> >> The only way would be to create a newsgroup on the second computer and
>> > only
>> >> download a few messages into it. Then take the other DBX file from
>> >> the
>> >> message store folder on the first computer and overwrite the newly
>> >> created
>> >> one in the second computer.
>> >>
>> >> It's easier if you first "clone" the second computer to match the
>> >> settings
>> >> on the first computer. To read about cloning, see the info at this

> link:
>> >> http://www.insideoe.com/backup/bu_full.htm
>> >> --
>> >> Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
>> >>
>> >

> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
>> >> Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be
>> >> helped.
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
>> >> newsZidnbW44euz8yXenZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> >> > Is there any way to move over a *single* database file containing
>> >> > one
>> >> > newsgroup store from OE 6 on one user's installation to another

> user's
>> >> > installation? Is there a standard procedure for this, or if not is
>> > there
>> >> > a
>> >> > third party utility that can do this kind of fine-grained movement
>> >> > of
>> >> > information?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Will
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>

>
>


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