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Old 01-05-2006, 04:57 PM
Edwin Gonzalez
 
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Default Inbox Limits & Strange Problem

Hello grup,

I need some help here with a problem I'm facing with a client's computer.
For some reason, Outllook Express is not showing any new messages in the
inbox.

My client tells me that since august 07, 2005, any new mail message
downloaded by OE started to dissapear. It's something like this:

1. Mi client starts OE and click on Send and Receive in order to get the new
messages and sent her own messages too.

2. Her computer sent all the new messages without problems.
3. Then the computer begins to receive incoming messages, and even tells how
many as usual.
4. Once the process is completed, when my client tries to find those
message, they're all gone. Let's say there were 13 messages in the receive
queuque. Everything goes as if correctly receiving those messages. However,
one the process is finished, there are no traces of any of those 13 messages,
and also (since downloaded "correctly") those messages are no longer stored
into her ISP server.

Question 1 is:

¿What could be the cause of this, is there anyway to fix it?

..........

Now to the second thing:

Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see) huge,
that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge Christmass tree
(just to compare) with thousands of messages, arranged in different brances,
(you know, House keeping, Kids, School, Mother, etc, etc, etc.) I've come to
think that maybe the OE data base size is getting near the limits, if not
already there.

Maybe, this could be causing the problem of the "Dissapearing Messages" I've
mentioned before.

Question 2 is:

¿Does OE have any size limit for it's database, if so, Is there a way to
increase it, to allow the messages to be found and read after receiving them ?

¿What can be done here to correct this problems?

...................

Thanks in advance, and Have a Happy New 2006 Year!

--
Edwin A. Gonzalez F.
Spectrum Computer, Co.
Panama, Rep. of Panama
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:57 PM
Bruce Hagen
 
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Default Re: Inbox Limits & Strange Problem

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupted. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no
folders are open. Then: File>Work Offline (or double click Working Online in
the Status Bar). File>Folder>Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.

In Tools>Options>Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Edwin Gonzalez" <EdwinGonzalez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:084B9D67-96D3-489F-8E52-2E47FFE69E94@microsoft.com...
> Hello grup,
>
> I need some help here with a problem I'm facing with a client's computer.
> For some reason, Outllook Express is not showing any new messages in the
> inbox.
>
> My client tells me that since august 07, 2005, any new mail message
> downloaded by OE started to dissapear. It's something like this:
>
> 1. Mi client starts OE and click on Send and Receive in order to get the
> new
> messages and sent her own messages too.
>
> 2. Her computer sent all the new messages without problems.
> 3. Then the computer begins to receive incoming messages, and even tells
> how
> many as usual.
> 4. Once the process is completed, when my client tries to find those
> message, they're all gone. Let's say there were 13 messages in the receive
> queuque. Everything goes as if correctly receiving those messages.
> However,
> one the process is finished, there are no traces of any of those 13
> messages,
> and also (since downloaded "correctly") those messages are no longer
> stored
> into her ISP server.
>
> Question 1 is:
>
> ¿What could be the cause of this, is there anyway to fix it?
>
> .........
>
> Now to the second thing:
>
> Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see) huge,
> that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge Christmass tree
> (just to compare) with thousands of messages, arranged in different
> brances,
> (you know, House keeping, Kids, School, Mother, etc, etc, etc.) I've come
> to
> think that maybe the OE data base size is getting near the limits, if not
> already there.
>
> Maybe, this could be causing the problem of the "Dissapearing Messages"
> I've
> mentioned before.
>
> Question 2 is:
>
> ¿Does OE have any size limit for it's database, if so, Is there a way to
> increase it, to allow the messages to be found and read after receiving
> them ?
>
> ¿What can be done here to correct this problems?
>
> ..................
>
> Thanks in advance, and Have a Happy New 2006 Year!
>
> --
> Edwin A. Gonzalez F.
> Spectrum Computer, Co.
> Panama, Rep. of Panama


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  #3  
Old 01-05-2006, 04:57 PM
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
 
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Default Re: Inbox Limits & Strange Problem

"Edwin Gonzalez" <EdwinGonzalez@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:084B9D67-96D3-489F-8E52-2E47FFE69E94@microsoft.com
> Hello grup,
>
> I need some help here with a problem I'm facing with a client's
> computer.
> For some reason, Outllook Express is not showing any new messages in
> the inbox.
>
> My client tells me that since august 07, 2005, any new mail message
> downloaded by OE started to dissapear. It's something like this:
>
> 1. Mi client starts OE and click on Send and Receive in order to get
> the new messages and sent her own messages too.
>
> 2. Her computer sent all the new messages without problems.
> 3. Then the computer begins to receive incoming messages, and even
> tells how many as usual.
> 4. Once the process is completed, when my client tries to find those
> message, they're all gone. Let's say there were 13 messages in the
> receive queuque. Everything goes as if correctly receiving those
> messages. However, one the process is finished, there are no traces
> of any of those 13 messages, and also (since downloaded "correctly")
> those messages are no longer stored into her ISP server.
>
> Question 1 is:
>
> ¿What could be the cause of this, is there anyway to fix it?
>
> .........
>
> Now to the second thing:
>
> Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see)
> huge, that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge
> Christmass tree (just to compare) with thousands of messages,
> arranged in different brances, (you know, House keeping, Kids,
> School, Mother, etc, etc, etc.) I've come to think that maybe the OE
> data base size is getting near the limits, if not already there.
>
> Maybe, this could be causing the problem of the "Dissapearing
> Messages" I've mentioned before.
>
> Question 2 is:
>
> ¿Does OE have any size limit for it's database, if so, Is there a way
> to increase it, to allow the messages to be found and read after
> receiving them ?
>
> ¿What can be done here to correct this problems?
>
> ..................
>
> Thanks in advance, and Have a Happy New 2006 Year!


Can she see old messages?
Check the Block Senders List and Message Rules.
While in the Inbox click View | Current View and uncheck Group Messages by
Conversation.
Don't store old messages in the Inbox. Move them to user created folders.

OE doesn't have a size limit of it's own, but if any of the DBX files get
over 1.99 GB they won't work. If they get over 100 MB they become too slow
for me and I delete or move messages and then compact them.

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:57 PM
PA Bear
 
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Default Re: Inbox Limits & Strange Problem

> Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see) huge,
> that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge Christmass tree


Ouch!

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXtract
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx

DBXtend (additional functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtend/Default.aspx

DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx

OEX (OE Enhancement Program)
http://www.oehelp.com/OEX/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoid Such Corruption in Future:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [N/A in SP2] and frequently perform a manual
compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/maintain.htm.

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

Edwin Gonzalez wrote:
> Hello grup,
>
> I need some help here with a problem I'm facing with a client's computer.
> For some reason, Outllook Express is not showing any new messages in the
> inbox.
>
> My client tells me that since august 07, 2005, any new mail message
> downloaded by OE started to dissapear. It's something like this:
>
> 1. Mi client starts OE and click on Send and Receive in order to get the
> new messages and sent her own messages too.
>
> 2. Her computer sent all the new messages without problems.
> 3. Then the computer begins to receive incoming messages, and even tells
> how many as usual.
> 4. Once the process is completed, when my client tries to find those
> message, they're all gone. Let's say there were 13 messages in the receive
> queuque. Everything goes as if correctly receiving those messages.
> However, one the process is finished, there are no traces of any of those
> 13 messages, and also (since downloaded "correctly") those messages are
> no longer stored into her ISP server.
>
> Question 1 is:
>
> ¿What could be the cause of this, is there anyway to fix it?
>
> .........
>
> Now to the second thing:
>
> Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see) huge,
> that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge Christmass tree
> (just to compare) with thousands of messages, arranged in different
> brances, (you know, House keeping, Kids, School, Mother, etc, etc, etc.)
> I've come to think that maybe the OE data base size is getting near the
> limits, if not already there.
>
> Maybe, this could be causing the problem of the "Dissapearing Messages"
> I've mentioned before.
>
> Question 2 is:
>
> ¿Does OE have any size limit for it's database, if so, Is there a way to
> increase it, to allow the messages to be found and read after receiving
> them ?
>
> ¿What can be done here to correct this problems?
>
> ..................
>
> Thanks in advance, and Have a Happy New 2006 Year!


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  #5  
Old 01-05-2006, 04:57 PM
Tom [Pepper] Willett
 
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Default Re: Inbox Limits & Strange Problem

3,096 GB? Must be one BIG hard drive!!!

Tom
"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uikyMGYDGHA.3064@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
|> Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see)
huge,
| > that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge Christmass
tree
|
| Ouch!
|
| Why it happens:
|
| http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone
|
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx
|
| Recovering data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#4
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| DBXtract
| http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtract/Default.aspx
|
| DBXtend (additional functionality)
| http://www.oehelp.com/DBXtend/Default.aspx
|
| DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality)
| http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
|
| OEX (OE Enhancement Program)
| http://www.oehelp.com/OEX/Default.aspx
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| Avoid Such Corruption in Future:
|
| - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
| folders created for this purpose.
|
| - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
|
| - Disable Background Compacting [N/A in SP2] and frequently perform a
manual
| compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
| http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/files/maintain.htm.
|
| - WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
| automatically compacting your message store.
|
| - Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
| corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
| --
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
|
| Edwin Gonzalez wrote:
| > Hello grup,
| >
| > I need some help here with a problem I'm facing with a client's
computer.
| > For some reason, Outllook Express is not showing any new messages in the
| > inbox.
| >
| > My client tells me that since august 07, 2005, any new mail message
| > downloaded by OE started to dissapear. It's something like this:
| >
| > 1. Mi client starts OE and click on Send and Receive in order to get the
| > new messages and sent her own messages too.
| >
| > 2. Her computer sent all the new messages without problems.
| > 3. Then the computer begins to receive incoming messages, and even tells
| > how many as usual.
| > 4. Once the process is completed, when my client tries to find those
| > message, they're all gone. Let's say there were 13 messages in the
receive
| > queuque. Everything goes as if correctly receiving those messages.
| > However, one the process is finished, there are no traces of any of
those
| > 13 messages, and also (since downloaded "correctly") those messages are
| > no longer stored into her ISP server.
| >
| > Question 1 is:
| >
| > ¿What could be the cause of this, is there anyway to fix it?
| >
| > .........
| >
| > Now to the second thing:
| >
| > Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see)
huge,
| > that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge Christmass
tree
| > (just to compare) with thousands of messages, arranged in different
| > brances, (you know, House keeping, Kids, School, Mother, etc, etc, etc.)
| > I've come to think that maybe the OE data base size is getting near the
| > limits, if not already there.
| >
| > Maybe, this could be causing the problem of the "Dissapearing Messages"
| > I've mentioned before.
| >
| > Question 2 is:
| >
| > ¿Does OE have any size limit for it's database, if so, Is there a way
to
| > increase it, to allow the messages to be found and read after receiving
| > them ?
| >
| > ¿What can be done here to correct this problems?
| >
| > ..................
| >
| > Thanks in advance, and Have a Happy New 2006 Year!
|


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Old 01-05-2006, 04:57 PM
PA Bear
 
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I guess! Hate to see the size of the cache.

Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
> 3,096 GB? Must be one BIG hard drive!!!
>
> Tom
> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uikyMGYDGHA.3064@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see)
> > > huge, that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge
> > > Christmass tree

> >
> > Ouch!


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Old 01-05-2006, 04:57 PM
Alias
 
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PA Bear wrote:

>> Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see)
>> huge,
>> that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge Christmass tree

>
>
> Ouch!


In some countries, like Spanish speaking ones, 3,096 would be 3.096. In
other words, 1,000 would be 1. Also, a billion would be one thousand
million.

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:57 PM
PA Bear
 
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Alias wrote:
> Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see)
> > > huge,
> > > that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge Christmass
> > > tree

> >
> >
> > Ouch!

>
> In some countries, like Spanish speaking ones, 3,096 would be 3.096. In
> other words, 1,000 would be 1. Also, a billion would be one thousand
> million.


I'd say "Ouch!" if he'd posted 3.9GB (as I expect he intended).
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:57 PM
Ron Sommer
 
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"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
news:%23P0RJOaDGHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> PA Bear wrote:
>
>>> Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see)
>>> huge,
>>> that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge Christmass
>>> tree

>>
>>
>> Ouch!

>
> In some countries, like Spanish speaking ones, 3,096 would be 3.096. In
> other words, 1,000 would be 1. Also, a billion would be one thousand
> million.
>
> --
> Alias
>
> Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
> Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.


Do you have a reference for your number information?
If 3,096 would be 3.096. then what would 3.096 be?
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:57 PM
AlmostBob
 
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In your "regional settings" applet in control panel you can play with the
country settings without changing the language and see the effects
, and . become interchangeable

at least until amerkin television rampaged through, a billion has always
been 10 raised to the 12th power, probably why there are more seppo
billionaires than anywhere
Zed, not Zee
colour

The language is English, so the way the English do it should be correct,
except that the English cant understand each other

Agitate for language standards
Lets all speak Australian

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"Ron Sommer" <rsommer@nospam.ktis.net> wrote in message
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> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
> news:%23P0RJOaDGHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > PA Bear wrote:
> >
> >>> Since my client's OE database is (at least for what I'm used to see)
> >>> huge,
> >>> that is 3,096 GB, and her OE inbox looks more like a huge Christmass
> >>> tree
> >>
> >>
> >> Ouch!

> >
> > In some countries, like Spanish speaking ones, 3,096 would be 3.096. In
> > other words, 1,000 would be 1. Also, a billion would be one thousand
> > million.
> >
> > --
> > Alias
> >
> > Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
> > Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

>
> Do you have a reference for your number information?
> If 3,096 would be 3.096. then what would 3.096 be?
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> Ron Sommer
>
>



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