clean up--compacting??

With no action on my part, outlook express has started going through a
lengthy "Clean up and Compaction" routine whenever I shut down the computer
or exit OE.

This is a major pain.

How may I shut off this "feature" and why did it start?

Thanks much

Paul Anton

"Tri-Pacer" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> With no action on my part, outlook express has started going through a
> lengthy "Clean up and Compaction" routine whenever I shut down the
> computer or exit OE.
>
> This is a major pain.
>
> How may I shut off this "feature" and why did it start?


Ever since Windows XP Service Pack 2, Outlook Express will perform an
automatic compaction after every hundredth use. There is a registry entry
that you could change its value but then you would have to keep editing this
registry entry to keep the automatic compaction from eventually occurring.
Just choose to compact yourself on occasion (this does not reset the
automatic compaction counter) so on the 100th time the compaction won't take
so long because there isn't that much to remove and reindex in the database.

http://www.insideoutlookexpress.com/files/maintain.htm

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It will compact every 100th time you've opened/closed the problem. This
count is maintained in the registry and while it can be adjusted there, it
really should not be changed. It sounds like it was about to compact
earlier and you click the Do Not show me this message again box, which means
that now it will compact w/o warning. You can reset the flag for that in
the registry under this key which contains a list of all dialogs you have
dismissed for Outlook Express:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{651FEF03-F5AD-49E8-8735-3B1E6475A8FE}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\5.0\Dont Show Dialogs

The value in the right hand pane (which should be reset to 0 is "Compact Do
Not ask Again"

But even without that dialog, you will see compacting start, and once
started, it should not be interrupted, nor should you power down or use Task
Manager to dismiss the process since doing so will put you at considerable
risk of losing at least part, if not all, of your stored messages.
--
Jim Pickering, MVP, Outlook Express
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/pr...8-1171988A62D6
Please deliver feedback to the newsgroup, so that others can be helped.
Thanks.


"Tri-Pacer" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fqqdnb-FAIeJ-iXeRVn-jw@comcast.com...
> With no action on my part, outlook express has started going through a
> lengthy "Clean up and Compaction" routine whenever I shut down the
> computer or exit OE.
>
> This is a major pain.
>
> How may I shut off this "feature" and why did it start?
>
> Thanks much
>
> Paul Anton
>

Compacting your folders periodically is a must to keep OE
functioning well and at some point, you may lose all your saved messages if
you don't.

With SP2, automatic background compacting was removed due to
problems it caused. Now you will get a prompt to compact after 100
OE closings, which you should do. See this for more information:
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact

To keep things running smooth, and for faster compacting:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually
become corrupt and you may lose mail. Create your own user
defined folders for storing mail and move your mail to them.
Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created folders
under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.

And this is a very good option:

Steve Cochran has added a button in his new version of OE Tool
that will not only Compact All Folders, but at the same time,
resets the "Compact Check Count" to zero whenever you compact
manually. You will see the prompt again if you do not compact
before 100 closings.

http://www.oehelp.com/OETool/

It is still advised to check Work Offline before you compact.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS MVP - Outlook Express
~IB-CA~

"Tri-Pacer" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fqqdnb-FAIeJ-iXeRVn-jw@comcast.com...
> With no action on my part, outlook express has started going through a
> lengthy "Clean up and Compaction" routine whenever I shut down the
> computer or exit OE.
>
> This is a major pain.
>
> How may I shut off this "feature" and why did it start?
>
> Thanks much
>
> Paul Anton
>

Hi Paul,

Thank you for posting here! Please note the partner managed newsgroups are
staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals. Our goal is to provide
a one business day response to all posts.

Thank you for everyone's experience sharing. Paul, before we go any
further, I would like to confirm whether you encounter the following
message when you try to close Outlook Express: "To free up disk space,
Outlook Express can compact messages. This may take up to a few minutes."

If it is this case, I would like to let you know that this is a new feature
introduced in Windows XP Service Pack (SP) 2 and this behavior is
controlled by a registry key. After 100 times opening/closing Outlook
Express, this dialog may prompt and we need to compact our email and news
message folder. I would explain that like most database programs, Outlook
Express does not actually remove an item from a *.dbx file when you delete
a message. Instead it merely tags the item for removal at a later time,
mainly when you next compact your folders. Until then, the deleted message
is still occupying disk space, which can cause Outlook Express to perform
more slowly when accessing the *.dbx file.

If you want to get rid of this behavior, you can use the following steps to
modify the corresponding registry key:

1. Click Start -> Run
2. Type regedit and click OK
3. Locate the following registry key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{identity GUID}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\5.0

4. Right click it and click Export to back it up.
5. In the right pane, double click "Compact Check Count" and set its value
to 0.

In this way, the dialog will disappear until the count of opening/closing
Outlook Express approaches 100 again.

At the same time, I would suggest that you backup Outlook Express data
periodically in case there is any data loss, for example, before you
compact the database. The detailed information is documented in the
following Microsoft KB article:

270670 OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express Data
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=270670

I hope the information above is helpful.

If anything in my post is unclear, feel free to let me know.

Have a good day!

Thanks & regards,

Winfred Weng
Microsoft Online Partner Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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>With no action on my part, outlook express has started going through a
>lengthy "Clean up and Compaction" routine whenever I shut down the
computer
>or exit OE.
>
>This is a major pain.
>
>How may I shut off this "feature" and why did it start?
>
>Thanks much
>
>Paul Anton
>
>
>

""Winfred Weng [MSFT]"" <v-wweng@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:jQlVqPCEGHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl...
> Hi Paul,
>
> Thank you for posting here! Please note the partner managed newsgroups are
> staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals. Our goal is to
> provide
> a one business day response to all posts.
>
> Thank you for everyone's experience sharing. Paul, before we go any
> further, I would like to confirm whether you encounter the following
> message when you try to close Outlook Express: "To free up disk space,
> Outlook Express can compact messages. This may take up to a few minutes."
>
> If it is this case, I would like to let you know that this is a new
> feature
> introduced in Windows XP Service Pack (SP) 2 and this behavior is
> controlled by a registry key. After 100 times opening/closing Outlook
> Express, this dialog may prompt and we need to compact our email and news
> message folder. I would explain that like most database programs, Outlook
> Express does not actually remove an item from a *.dbx file when you delete
> a message. Instead it merely tags the item for removal at a later time,
> mainly when you next compact your folders. Until then, the deleted message
> is still occupying disk space, which can cause Outlook Express to perform
> more slowly when accessing the *.dbx file.
>

Just a minor clarification. When you delete a message from a folder, it
gets moved from that folder to the deleted items folder, but the space in
the original file remains the same. The delete message is no longer in the
folder. When you Shift-Delete an item, the message is marked for deletion
(and 4 bytes of every 512 byte piece is overwritten), but the message then
remains in the original folder, so the space is still there again. When you
delete from the deleted items folder, then the messages again are marked for
deletion, but they are still in the folder.

As you indicated, when the folder is compacted then that space is reclaimed,
and OE will then function more efficiently.

Unfortunately, the implementation in SP2 was less than optimal, and as such,
we are seeing multiple post from people who are losing all or some of their
messages due to this problem.

I developed a workaround with OETool, that will reset the counter when a
user manually compacts. So others may also wish to check out the latter
part of www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2 and also www.oehelp.com/OETool/

It would be nice if you could turn your message into a KB article we could
reference for the users.

cheers,

steve



> If you want to get rid of this behavior, you can use the following steps
> to
> modify the corresponding registry key:
>
> 1. Click Start -> Run
> 2. Type regedit and click OK
> 3. Locate the following registry key:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{identity GUID}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook
> Express\5.0
>
> 4. Right click it and click Export to back it up.
> 5. In the right pane, double click "Compact Check Count" and set its value
> to 0.
>
> In this way, the dialog will disappear until the count of opening/closing
> Outlook Express approaches 100 again.
>
> At the same time, I would suggest that you backup Outlook Express data
> periodically in case there is any data loss, for example, before you
> compact the database. The detailed information is documented in the
> following Microsoft KB article:
>
> 270670 OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express Data
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=270670
>
> I hope the information above is helpful.
>
> If anything in my post is unclear, feel free to let me know.
>
> Have a good day!
>
> Thanks & regards,
>
> Winfred Weng
> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
>
> ================================================== ===
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> support at no charge during critical LAN outages or "business down"
> situations. This benefit is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to all
> Microsoft technology partners in the United States and Canada.
>
> This and other support options are available here:
>
> BCPS:
> https://partner.microsoft.com/US/tec...rview/40010469
> Others: https://partner.microsoft.com/US/tec...pportoverview/
>
> If you are outside the United States, please visit our International
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>>
>>With no action on my part, outlook express has started going through a
>>lengthy "Clean up and Compaction" routine whenever I shut down the
> computer
>>or exit OE.
>>
>>This is a major pain.
>>
>>How may I shut off this "feature" and why did it start?
>>
>>Thanks much
>>
>>Paul Anton
>>
>>
>>
>

Hi Steve,

Thank you for your extra input and valuable information. It is my pleasure
to help you to reflect your feedbacks to our relevant departments for their
review. We strive to capture any and all product issues and product
feedback so as to ensure that we are continuously developing Microsoft
products to meet customer needs. This is exactly why feedback such as yours
is always taken very seriously. Once again thank you for your time.

Have a good day!

Thanks & regards,

Winfred Weng
Microsoft Online Partner Support

--------------------
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>""Winfred Weng [MSFT]"" <v-wweng@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:jQlVqPCEGHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> Thank you for posting here! Please note the partner managed newsgroups
are
>> staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals. Our goal is to
>> provide
>> a one business day response to all posts.
>>
>> Thank you for everyone's experience sharing. Paul, before we go any
>> further, I would like to confirm whether you encounter the following
>> message when you try to close Outlook Express: "To free up disk space,
>> Outlook Express can compact messages. This may take up to a few minutes."
>>
>> If it is this case, I would like to let you know that this is a new
>> feature
>> introduced in Windows XP Service Pack (SP) 2 and this behavior is
>> controlled by a registry key. After 100 times opening/closing Outlook
>> Express, this dialog may prompt and we need to compact our email and news
>> message folder. I would explain that like most database programs, Outlook
>> Express does not actually remove an item from a *.dbx file when you
delete
>> a message. Instead it merely tags the item for removal at a later time,
>> mainly when you next compact your folders. Until then, the deleted
message
>> is still occupying disk space, which can cause Outlook Express to perform
>> more slowly when accessing the *.dbx file.
>>
>
>Just a minor clarification. When you delete a message from a folder, it
>gets moved from that folder to the deleted items folder, but the space in
>the original file remains the same. The delete message is no longer in
the
>folder. When you Shift-Delete an item, the message is marked for deletion
>(and 4 bytes of every 512 byte piece is overwritten), but the message then
>remains in the original folder, so the space is still there again. When
you
>delete from the deleted items folder, then the messages again are marked
for
>deletion, but they are still in the folder.
>
>As you indicated, when the folder is compacted then that space is
reclaimed,
>and OE will then function more efficiently.
>
>Unfortunately, the implementation in SP2 was less than optimal, and as
such,
>we are seeing multiple post from people who are losing all or some of
their
>messages due to this problem.
>
>I developed a workaround with OETool, that will reset the counter when a
>user manually compacts. So others may also wish to check out the latter
>part of www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2 and also www.oehelp.com/OETool/
>
>It would be nice if you could turn your message into a KB article we could
>reference for the users.
>
>cheers,
>
>steve
>
>
>
>> If you want to get rid of this behavior, you can use the following steps
>> to
>> modify the corresponding registry key:
>>
>> 1. Click Start -> Run
>> 2. Type regedit and click OK
>> 3. Locate the following registry key:
>>
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{identity GUID}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook
>> Express\5.0
>>
>> 4. Right click it and click Export to back it up.
>> 5. In the right pane, double click "Compact Check Count" and set its
value
>> to 0.
>>
>> In this way, the dialog will disappear until the count of opening/closing
>> Outlook Express approaches 100 again.
>>
>> At the same time, I would suggest that you backup Outlook Express data
>> periodically in case there is any data loss, for example, before you
>> compact the database. The detailed information is documented in the
>> following Microsoft KB article:
>>
>> 270670 OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express Data
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=270670
>>
>> I hope the information above is helpful.
>>
>> If anything in my post is unclear, feel free to let me know.
>>
>> Have a good day!
>>
>> Thanks & regards,
>>
>> Winfred Weng
>> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>>
>> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>>
>> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
>> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
>>
>> ================================================== ===
>> Business-Critical Phone Support (BCPS) provides you with technical phone
>> support at no charge during critical LAN outages or "business down"
>> situations. This benefit is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to
all
>> Microsoft technology partners in the United States and Canada.
>>
>> This and other support options are available here:
>>
>> BCPS:
>>
https://partner.microsoft.com/US/tec...rview/40010469
>> Others:
https://partner.microsoft.com/US/tec...pportoverview/
>>
>> If you are outside the United States, please visit our International
>> Support page:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
>> ================================================== ===
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>> --------------------
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>>>From: "Tri-Pacer" <nospam@hotmail.com>
>>>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
>>>Subject: clean up--compacting??
>>>Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 15:34:42 -0800
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>>>
>>>With no action on my part, outlook express has started going through a
>>>lengthy "Clean up and Compaction" routine whenever I shut down the
>> computer
>>>or exit OE.
>>>
>>>This is a major pain.
>>>
>>>How may I shut off this "feature" and why did it start?
>>>
>>>Thanks much
>>>
>>>Paul Anton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Hi Winfred,

We're looking forward to you guys fixing this. <G>

cheers,

steve

""Winfred Weng [MSFT]"" <v-wweng@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:VlpWtrPEGHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl...
> Hi Steve,
>
> Thank you for your extra input and valuable information. It is my pleasure
> to help you to reflect your feedbacks to our relevant departments for
> their
> review. We strive to capture any and all product issues and product
> feedback so as to ensure that we are continuously developing Microsoft
> products to meet customer needs. This is exactly why feedback such as
> yours
> is always taken very seriously. Once again thank you for your time.
>
> Have a good day!
>
> Thanks & regards,
>
> Winfred Weng
> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>
> --------------------
>>From: "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com>
>>References: <fqqdnb-FAIeJ-iXeRVn-jw@comcast.com>
> <jQlVqPCEGHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl>
>>Subject: Re: clean up--compacting??
>>Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:55:39 -0500
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>>
>>
>>""Winfred Weng [MSFT]"" <v-wweng@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:jQlVqPCEGHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> Thank you for posting here! Please note the partner managed newsgroups
> are
>>> staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals. Our goal is to
>>> provide
>>> a one business day response to all posts.
>>>
>>> Thank you for everyone's experience sharing. Paul, before we go any
>>> further, I would like to confirm whether you encounter the following
>>> message when you try to close Outlook Express: "To free up disk space,
>>> Outlook Express can compact messages. This may take up to a few
>>> minutes."
>>>
>>> If it is this case, I would like to let you know that this is a new
>>> feature
>>> introduced in Windows XP Service Pack (SP) 2 and this behavior is
>>> controlled by a registry key. After 100 times opening/closing Outlook
>>> Express, this dialog may prompt and we need to compact our email and
>>> news
>>> message folder. I would explain that like most database programs,
>>> Outlook
>>> Express does not actually remove an item from a *.dbx file when you
> delete
>>> a message. Instead it merely tags the item for removal at a later time,
>>> mainly when you next compact your folders. Until then, the deleted
> message
>>> is still occupying disk space, which can cause Outlook Express to
>>> perform
>>> more slowly when accessing the *.dbx file.
>>>
>>
>>Just a minor clarification. When you delete a message from a folder, it
>>gets moved from that folder to the deleted items folder, but the space in
>>the original file remains the same. The delete message is no longer in
> the
>>folder. When you Shift-Delete an item, the message is marked for deletion
>>(and 4 bytes of every 512 byte piece is overwritten), but the message then
>>remains in the original folder, so the space is still there again. When
> you
>>delete from the deleted items folder, then the messages again are marked
> for
>>deletion, but they are still in the folder.
>>
>>As you indicated, when the folder is compacted then that space is
> reclaimed,
>>and OE will then function more efficiently.
>>
>>Unfortunately, the implementation in SP2 was less than optimal, and as
> such,
>>we are seeing multiple post from people who are losing all or some of
> their
>>messages due to this problem.
>>
>>I developed a workaround with OETool, that will reset the counter when a
>>user manually compacts. So others may also wish to check out the latter
>>part of www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2 and also www.oehelp.com/OETool/
>>
>>It would be nice if you could turn your message into a KB article we could
>>reference for the users.
>>
>>cheers,
>>
>>steve
>>
>>
>>
>>> If you want to get rid of this behavior, you can use the following steps
>>> to
>>> modify the corresponding registry key:
>>>
>>> 1. Click Start -> Run
>>> 2. Type regedit and click OK
>>> 3. Locate the following registry key:
>>>
>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{identity GUID}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook
>>> Express\5.0
>>>
>>> 4. Right click it and click Export to back it up.
>>> 5. In the right pane, double click "Compact Check Count" and set its
> value
>>> to 0.
>>>
>>> In this way, the dialog will disappear until the count of
>>> opening/closing
>>> Outlook Express approaches 100 again.
>>>
>>> At the same time, I would suggest that you backup Outlook Express data
>>> periodically in case there is any data loss, for example, before you
>>> compact the database. The detailed information is documented in the
>>> following Microsoft KB article:
>>>
>>> 270670 OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express Data
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=270670
>>>
>>> I hope the information above is helpful.
>>>
>>> If anything in my post is unclear, feel free to let me know.
>>>
>>> Have a good day!
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards,
>>>
>>> Winfred Weng
>>> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>>>
>>> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>>>
>>> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
>>> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
>>>
>>> ================================================== ===
>>> Business-Critical Phone Support (BCPS) provides you with technical phone
>>> support at no charge during critical LAN outages or "business down"
>>> situations. This benefit is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to
> all
>>> Microsoft technology partners in the United States and Canada.
>>>
>>> This and other support options are available here:
>>>
>>> BCPS:
>>>
> https://partner.microsoft.com/US/tec...rview/40010469
>>> Others:
> https://partner.microsoft.com/US/tec...pportoverview/
>>>
>>> If you are outside the United States, please visit our International
>>> Support page:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
>>> ================================================== ===
>>>
>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights.
>>>
>>> --------------------
>>>>NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:34:43 -0600
>>>>From: "Tri-Pacer" <nospam@hotmail.com>
>>>>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
>>>>Subject: clean up--compacting??
>>>>Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 15:34:42 -0800
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>>>>
>>>>With no action on my part, outlook express has started going through a
>>>>lengthy "Clean up and Compaction" routine whenever I shut down the
>>> computer
>>>>or exit OE.
>>>>
>>>>This is a major pain.
>>>>
>>>>How may I shut off this "feature" and why did it start?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks much
>>>>
>>>>Paul Anton
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

> ...It is my pleasure
> to help you to reflect your feedbacks to our relevant departments for
> their review.

How sweet! <eg>


"Winfred Weng [MSFT]" wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> Thank you for your extra input and valuable information. It is my pleasure
> to help you to reflect your feedbacks to our relevant departments for
> their review. We strive to capture any and all product issues and product
> feedback so as to ensure that we are continuously developing Microsoft
> products to meet customer needs. This is exactly why feedback such as
> yours is always taken very seriously. Once again thank you for your time.
>
> Have a good day!
>
> Thanks & regards,
>
> Winfred Weng
> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>
> --------------------
> > From: "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com>
> > References: <fqqdnb-FAIeJ-iXeRVn-jw@comcast.com>
> <jQlVqPCEGHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl>
> > Subject: Re: clean up--compacting??
> > Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:55:39 -0500
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> > format=flowed;
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> > X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
> >
> >
> > ""Winfred Weng [MSFT]"" <v-wweng@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:jQlVqPCEGHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi Paul,
> > >
> > > Thank you for posting here! Please note the partner managed
> > > newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals.
> > > Our goal is to provide
> > > a one business day response to all posts.
> > >
> > > Thank you for everyone's experience sharing. Paul, before we go any
> > > further, I would like to confirm whether you encounter the following
> > > message when you try to close Outlook Express: "To free up disk space,
> > > Outlook Express can compact messages. This may take up to a few
> > > minutes."
> > >
> > > If it is this case, I would like to let you know that this is a new
> > > feature
> > > introduced in Windows XP Service Pack (SP) 2 and this behavior is
> > > controlled by a registry key. After 100 times opening/closing Outlook
> > > Express, this dialog may prompt and we need to compact our email and
> > > news message folder. I would explain that like most database
> > > programs, Outlook Express does not actually remove an item from a
> > > *.dbx file when you delete a message. Instead it merely tags the item
> > > for removal at a later time, mainly when you next compact your
> > > folders. Until then, the deleted message is still occupying disk
> > > space, which can cause Outlook Express to perform more slowly when
> > > accessing the *.dbx file.
> > >
> >
> > Just a minor clarification. When you delete a message from a folder, it
> > gets moved from that folder to the deleted items folder, but the space
> > in the original file remains the same. The delete message is no longer
> > in the folder. When you Shift-Delete an item, the message is marked
> > for deletion (and 4 bytes of every 512 byte piece is overwritten), but
> > the message then remains in the original folder, so the space is still
> > there again. When you delete from the deleted items folder, then the
> > messages again are marked for deletion, but they are still in the
> > folder.
> >
> > As you indicated, when the folder is compacted then that space is
> > reclaimed, and OE will then function more efficiently.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the implementation in SP2 was less than optimal, and as
> > such, we are seeing multiple post from people who are losing all or
> > some of their messages due to this problem.
> >
> > I developed a workaround with OETool, that will reset the counter when a
> > user manually compacts. So others may also wish to check out the latter
> > part of www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2 and also www.oehelp.com/OETool/
> >
> > It would be nice if you could turn your message into a KB article we
> > could reference for the users.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > steve
> >
> >
> >
> > > If you want to get rid of this behavior, you can use the following
> > > steps to
> > > modify the corresponding registry key:
> > >
> > > 1. Click Start -> Run
> > > 2. Type regedit and click OK
> > > 3. Locate the following registry key:
> > >
> > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{identity
> > > GUID}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0
> > >
> > > 4. Right click it and click Export to back it up.
> > > 5. In the right pane, double click "Compact Check Count" and set its
> > > value to 0.
> > >
> > > In this way, the dialog will disappear until the count of
> > > opening/closing Outlook Express approaches 100 again.
> > >
> > > At the same time, I would suggest that you backup Outlook Express data
> > > periodically in case there is any data loss, for example, before you
> > > compact the database. The detailed information is documented in the
> > > following Microsoft KB article:
> > >
> > > 270670 OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express Data
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=270670
> > >
> > > I hope the information above is helpful.
> > >
> > > If anything in my post is unclear, feel free to let me know.
> > >
> > > Have a good day!
> > >
> > > Thanks & regards,
> > >
> > > Winfred Weng
> > > Microsoft Online Partner Support
> > >
> > > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> > >
> > > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
> > > so that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
> > >
> > > ================================================== ===
> > > Business-Critical Phone Support (BCPS) provides you with technical
> > > phone support at no charge during critical LAN outages or "business
> > > down" situations. This benefit is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a
> > > week to all Microsoft technology partners in the United States and
> > > Canada.
> > >
> > > This and other support options are available here:
> > >
> > > BCPS:
> > >
> https://partner.microsoft.com/US/tec...rview/40010469
> > > Others:
> https://partner.microsoft.com/US/tec...pportoverview/
> > >
> > > If you are outside the United States, please visit our International
> > > Support page:
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx
> > > ================================================== ===
> > >
> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > rights.
> > >
> > > --------------------
> > > > NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:34:43 -0600
> > > > From: "Tri-Pacer" <nospam@hotmail.com>
> > > > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
> > > > Subject: clean up--compacting??
> > > > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 15:34:42 -0800
> > > > X-Priority: 3
> > > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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> > > > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670
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> > > > Lines: 13
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> > > microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress:289982
> > > > X-Tomcat-NG:
> > > > microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
> > > >
> > > > With no action on my part, outlook express has started going
> > > > through a lengthy "Clean up and Compaction" routine whenever I shut
> > > > down the computer or exit OE.
> > > >
> > > > This is a major pain.
> > > >
> > > > How may I shut off this "feature" and why did it start?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks much
> > > >
> > > > Paul Anton

Hi Steve and "PABearMVP",

Thank you for your kind understanding and invaluable experience sharing.

Wish you a Happy New Year!

Thanks & regards,

Winfred Weng
Microsoft Online Partner Support

--------------------
>Reply-To: "PA Bear" <moc.liamg@PVMraeBAP>
>From: "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com>
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>
>> ...It is my pleasure
>> to help you to reflect your feedbacks to our relevant departments for
>> their review.
>
>How sweet! <eg>
>
>
>"Winfred Weng [MSFT]" wrote:
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> Thank you for your extra input and valuable information. It is my
pleasure
>> to help you to reflect your feedbacks to our relevant departments for
>> their review. We strive to capture any and all product issues and product
>> feedback so as to ensure that we are continuously developing Microsoft
>> products to meet customer needs. This is exactly why feedback such as
>> yours is always taken very seriously. Once again thank you for your time.
>>
>> Have a good day!
>>
>> Thanks & regards,
>>
>> Winfred Weng
>> Microsoft Online Partner Support
>>
>> --------------------
>> > From: "Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com>
>> > References: <fqqdnb-FAIeJ-iXeRVn-jw@comcast.com>
>> <jQlVqPCEGHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl>
>> > Subject: Re: clean up--compacting??
>> > Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:55:39 -0500
>> > Lines: 169
>> > MIME-Version: 1.0
>> > Content-Type: text/plain;
>> > format=flowed;
>> > charset="Windows-1252";
>> > reply-type=original
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> > X-Priority: 3
>> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 7.00.5270.9
>> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V7.00.5270.9
>> > Message-ID: <O1epf1GEGHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>
>> > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
>> > NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-070-145-069-247.sip.cha.bellsouth.net
>> > 70.145.69.247 Path:
>> > TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFT NGP15.phx.gbl Xref:
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>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress:290169
>> > X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress
>> >
>> >
>> > ""Winfred Weng [MSFT]"" <v-wweng@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:jQlVqPCEGHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGXA02.phx.gbl...
>> > > Hi Paul,
>> > >
>> > > Thank you for posting here! Please note the partner managed
>> > > newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals.
>> > > Our goal is to provide
>> > > a one business day response to all posts.
>> > >
>> > > Thank you for everyone's experience sharing. Paul, before we go any
>> > > further, I would like to confirm whether you encounter the following
>> > > message when you try to close Outlook Express: "To free up disk
space,
>> > > Outlook Express can compact messages. This may take up to a few
>> > > minutes."
>> > >
>> > > If it is this case, I would like to let you know that this is a new
>> > > feature
>> > > introduced in Windows XP Service Pack (SP) 2 and this behavior is
>> > > controlled by a registry key. After 100 times opening/closing Outlook
>> > > Express, this dialog may prompt and we need to compact our email and
>> > > news message folder. I would explain that like most database
>> > > programs, Outlook Express does not actually remove an item from a
>> > > *.dbx file when you delete a message. Instead it merely tags the item
>> > > for removal at a later time, mainly when you next compact your
>> > > folders. Until then, the deleted message is still occupying disk
>> > > space, which can cause Outlook Express to perform more slowly when
>> > > accessing the *.dbx file.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Just a minor clarification. When you delete a message from a folder,
it
>> > gets moved from that folder to the deleted items folder, but the space
>> > in the original file remains the same. The delete message is no longer
>> > in the folder. When you Shift-Delete an item, the message is marked
>> > for deletion (and 4 bytes of every 512 byte piece is overwritten), but
>> > the message then remains in the original folder, so the space is still
>> > there again. When you delete from the deleted items folder, then the
>> > messages again are marked for deletion, but they are still in the
>> > folder.
>> >
>> > As you indicated, when the folder is compacted then that space is
>> > reclaimed, and OE will then function more efficiently.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, the implementation in SP2 was less than optimal, and as
>> > such, we are seeing multiple post from people who are losing all or
>> > some of their messages due to this problem.
>> >
>> > I developed a workaround with OETool, that will reset the counter when
a
>> > user manually compacts. So others may also wish to check out the
latter
>> > part of www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2 and also www.oehelp.com/OETool/
>> >
>> > It would be nice if you could turn your message into a KB article we
>> > could reference for the users.
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> >
>> > steve
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > If you want to get rid of this behavior, you can use the following
>> > > steps to
>> > > modify the corresponding registry key:
>> > >
>> > > 1. Click Start -> Run
>> > > 2. Type regedit and click OK
>> > > 3. Locate the following registry key:
>> > >
>> > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{identity
>> > > GUID}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0
>> > >
>> > > 4. Right click it and click Export to back it up.
>> > > 5. In the right pane, double click "Compact Check Count" and set its
>> > > value to 0.
>> > >
>> > > In this way, the dialog will disappear until the count of
>> > > opening/closing Outlook Express approaches 100 again.
>> > >
>> > > At the same time, I would suggest that you backup Outlook Express
data
>> > > periodically in case there is any data loss, for example, before you
>> > > compact the database. The detailed information is documented in the
>> > > following Microsoft KB article:
>> > >
>> > > 270670 OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express Data
>> > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=270670
>> > >
>> > > I hope the information above is helpful.
>> > >
>> > > If anything in my post is unclear, feel free to let me know.
>> > >
>> > > Have a good day!
>> > >
>> > > Thanks & regards,
>> > >
>> > > Winfred Weng
>> > > Microsoft Online Partner Support
>> > >
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>> > > > NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:34:43 -0600
>> > > > From: "Tri-Pacer" <nospam@hotmail.com>
>> > > > Newsgroups:
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>> > > > Subject: clean up--compacting??
>> > > > Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 15:34:42 -0800
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>> > > microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlooke xpress:289982
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>> > > >
>> > > > With no action on my part, outlook express has started going
>> > > > through a lengthy "Clean up and Compaction" routine whenever I shut
>> > > > down the computer or exit OE.
>> > > >
>> > > > This is a major pain.
>> > > >
>> > > > How may I shut off this "feature" and why did it start?
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks much
>> > > >
>> > > > Paul Anton
>
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