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Old 01-05-2006, 04:02 PM
Eboy
 
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Default Hey Microsoft: Why can't I rewind music?!!

RE-POST due to no response....
Simple question: When playing any type of music file, why is Play > Rewind
disabled? You can use the slider to go backwards in a song but you can't use
Play > Rewind or the Rewind button. What gives?!
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:03 PM
zachd [ms]
 
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Default Re: Hey Microsoft: Why can't I rewind music?!!


Welcome to a peer community forum:
http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#netiquette
should be required reading.

Seeking and scanning are different things. Certain features simply aren't
supported, as you've noted.

--
(speaking for myself and doing this in my free time)
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Now Playing: "If I Lose" by "Aretha Franklin" in WMP10.
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"Eboy" <Eboy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:25F99A7C-59B3-4B48-B1AE-47BEFEBE73A6@microsoft.com...
> RE-POST due to no response....
> Simple question: When playing any type of music file, why is Play > Rewind
> disabled? You can use the slider to go backwards in a song but you can't
> use
> Play > Rewind or the Rewind button. What gives?!



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Old 01-05-2006, 04:03 PM
Eboy
 
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Default Re: Hey Microsoft: Why can't I rewind music?!!

Thanks for the welcome, Zach, and the response. Before posting I did an
exhaustive search for why rewind capability is missing from WMP (and MCE)
including your website (which talks about rewinding ASF files but not music
files). I also contacted Microsoft support and was given a similar answer:
"Not supported." No details, no explanation. Suffice it to say, I tried to do
my due diligence before posting to this newsgroup.

The ability to rewind while listening to digital music is a function which
we have all taken for granted since component CD players came out 20 years
ago. I am among an ever-growing population of digital music enthusiasts
ripping their entire collections to hard disk either using WMP or MCE. We are
all baffled that firstly, the rewind function is missing and secondly, that
more people aren't talking about it. Yes, you can drag the slider back to a
previous point in a track but you can only do so by using a mouse -- you
cannot do so from a hot key -- therefore, most importantly, neither from a
remote control!

So, for all of us holding back on ripping our music collections using
Microsoft products (either WMP or MCE) until we understand this rewind issue,
I ask again: *why* is rewind missing. It would help us to know *why* the
function is not supported -- not just that it is not supported.

We appreciate any response yourself or any other expert can give. Thanks.

"zachd [ms]" wrote:

>
> Welcome to a peer community forum:
> http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#netiquette
> should be required reading.
>
> Seeking and scanning are different things. Certain features simply aren't
> supported, as you've noted.
>
> --
> (speaking for myself and doing this in my free time)
> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> Now Playing: "If I Lose" by "Aretha Franklin" in WMP10.
> --
>
> "Eboy" <Eboy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:25F99A7C-59B3-4B48-B1AE-47BEFEBE73A6@microsoft.com...
> > RE-POST due to no response....
> > Simple question: When playing any type of music file, why is Play > Rewind
> > disabled? You can use the slider to go backwards in a song but you can't
> > use
> > Play > Rewind or the Rewind button. What gives?!

>
>
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:03 PM
Mike Williams
 
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Default Re: Hey Microsoft: Why can't I rewind music?!!

Eboy wrote:
> Thanks for the welcome, Zach, and the response. Before posting I did an
> exhaustive search for why rewind capability is missing from WMP (and MCE)
> including your website (which talks about rewinding ASF files but not music
> files). I also contacted Microsoft support and was given a similar answer:
> "Not supported." No details, no explanation. Suffice it to say, I tried to do
> my due diligence before posting to this newsgroup.
>
> The ability to rewind while listening to digital music is a function which
> we have all taken for granted since component CD players came out 20 years
> ago. I am among an ever-growing population of digital music enthusiasts
> ripping their entire collections to hard disk either using WMP or MCE. We are
> all baffled that firstly, the rewind function is missing


I have 40000+ tracks ripped from my collection, and I'm not baffled, and
hadn't even thought about it to today.

and secondly, that
> more people aren't talking about it. Yes, you can drag the slider back to a
> previous point in a track but you can only do so by using a mouse -- you
> cannot do so from a hot key -- therefore, most importantly, neither from a
> remote control!


In the cases where Rewind is supported, the hotkeys Alt+P+R or
Ctl+Shift+B are available (which can be read off the WMP menu).

> So, for all of us holding back on ripping our music collections using
> Microsoft products (either WMP or MCE) until we understand this rewind issue,
> I ask again: *why* is rewind missing. It would help us to know *why* the
> function is not supported -- not just that it is not supported.


You can rip using Microsoft products, but you may want to choose a
different playback product (of which there are many free products to
choose from). For my money, there are dozens of more pressing issues to
fix or add before this.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:03 PM
Eboy
 
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Default Re: Hey Microsoft: Why can't I rewind music?!!

Thanks, Mike. Interesting. I have done many demonstrations of WMP and MCE and
the first time someone tries to rewind back to hear a great drum fill again,
for instance, I get appalled looks when I tell them "You can't."

Are you saying that there are 3rd party products that play back
Microsoft-formatted (or any kind of) music files that allow rewind? If so,
can you point me to one? Thanks again.

"Mike Williams" wrote:

> Eboy wrote:
> > Thanks for the welcome, Zach, and the response. Before posting I did an
> > exhaustive search for why rewind capability is missing from WMP (and MCE)
> > including your website (which talks about rewinding ASF files but not music
> > files). I also contacted Microsoft support and was given a similar answer:
> > "Not supported." No details, no explanation. Suffice it to say, I tried to do
> > my due diligence before posting to this newsgroup.
> >
> > The ability to rewind while listening to digital music is a function which
> > we have all taken for granted since component CD players came out 20 years
> > ago. I am among an ever-growing population of digital music enthusiasts
> > ripping their entire collections to hard disk either using WMP or MCE. We are
> > all baffled that firstly, the rewind function is missing

>
> I have 40000+ tracks ripped from my collection, and I'm not baffled, and
> hadn't even thought about it to today.
>
> and secondly, that
> > more people aren't talking about it. Yes, you can drag the slider back to a
> > previous point in a track but you can only do so by using a mouse -- you
> > cannot do so from a hot key -- therefore, most importantly, neither from a
> > remote control!

>
> In the cases where Rewind is supported, the hotkeys Alt+P+R or
> Ctl+Shift+B are available (which can be read off the WMP menu).
>
> > So, for all of us holding back on ripping our music collections using
> > Microsoft products (either WMP or MCE) until we understand this rewind issue,
> > I ask again: *why* is rewind missing. It would help us to know *why* the
> > function is not supported -- not just that it is not supported.

>
> You can rip using Microsoft products, but you may want to choose a
> different playback product (of which there are many free products to
> choose from). For my money, there are dozens of more pressing issues to
> fix or add before this.
>

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