Ripping from a mutiple CD set

Hello,

For some unknown reason WMP 10 will not recoginze the contents of the second
or third CD in a set with the same album title after the first CD in the
album is ripped. When attempting to rip, it shows the album name and the
contents of the first CD. It will recognize different albums as will Windows
Explorer. How do I get WMP 10 to recognize a second or third cd in a
multiple CD set? Thank you.

BV Baron wrote:
> Hello,
>
> For some unknown reason WMP 10 will not recoginze the contents of the second
> or third CD in a set with the same album title after the first CD in the
> album is ripped. When attempting to rip, it shows the album name and the
> contents of the first CD. It will recognize different albums as will Windows
> Explorer. How do I get WMP 10 to recognize a second or third cd in a
> multiple CD set? Thank you.

It's most likely an AutoPlay issue:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...r/faq.aspx#4_7

It's also possible that the online database doesn't distinguish between
the different volumes. That's not an uncommon issue, and the only remedy
is to manually update your data locally. When you do, make sure that
each volume has a separate album title e.g. "War of the Worlds Disk 2"
or you will just overwrite other volume titles.

Thanks Mike,

I look at the Autoplay message before writing. As far as I can tell it is
working as required. That is, I insert the CD and it bring up the window
options to play or to rip (or to do something else). When I select either
"play" or "rip" with the second CD of the set it brings up the library
showing the contents of the first CD of the set.

It's a commercial album "The Many Sides of Santanta." Each disk is labelled
"Volume One", "Volume Two" and "Volume Three." WMP 10 only recognixes "The
Many Sides of Santana." I am unable to re-label or re-name of the album. I
tried copying the CDs straight from Windows Exlporer (from a previous version
of Windows this was a snap with music files). However, when making copies
this way the newly burned CDs won't play in my standalone CD player. I'm
tired of paying Roxio for upgrades of the software, and the Real Player stuff
is way too invasive. Figured MS has a good product that would do the trick.
It probably can; I just don't know how. Thanks.

"Mike Williams" wrote:

> BV Baron wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > For some unknown reason WMP 10 will not recoginze the contents of the second
> > or third CD in a set with the same album title after the first CD in the
> > album is ripped. When attempting to rip, it shows the album name and the
> > contents of the first CD. It will recognize different albums as will Windows
> > Explorer. How do I get WMP 10 to recognize a second or third cd in a
> > multiple CD set? Thank you.
>
> It's most likely an AutoPlay issue:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...r/faq.aspx#4_7
>
> It's also possible that the online database doesn't distinguish between
> the different volumes. That's not an uncommon issue, and the only remedy
> is to manually update your data locally. When you do, make sure that
> each volume has a separate album title e.g. "War of the Worlds Disk 2"
> or you will just overwrite other volume titles.
>

You can tell which one this is (AutoPlay vs AMG) because in the AutoPlay
case the information will show up correctly if they restart the player.

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"Mike Williams" <mikew@m-v-p-s.org.null> wrote in message
news:43B9533D.2050105@m-v-p-s.org.null...
> BV Baron wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> For some unknown reason WMP 10 will not recoginze the contents of the
>> second or third CD in a set with the same album title after the first CD
>> in the album is ripped. When attempting to rip, it shows the album name
>> and the contents of the first CD. It will recognize different albums as
>> will Windows Explorer. How do I get WMP 10 to recognize a second or
>> third cd in a multiple CD set? Thank you.
>
> It's most likely an AutoPlay issue:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...r/faq.aspx#4_7
>
> It's also possible that the online database doesn't distinguish between
> the different volumes. That's not an uncommon issue, and the only remedy
> is to manually update your data locally. When you do, make sure that each
> volume has a separate album title e.g. "War of the Worlds Disk 2" or you
> will just overwrite other volume titles.

BV Baron,

I think it may be a problem with the Data Provider. I ripped the
Sinatra Capitol Years (21 CDs) Box set a couple of nights ago and each
CD was call Disk 1,2 etc. in my case there were some errors in the data
which I corrected locally.

BV Baron wrote:
> Thanks Mike,
>
> I look at the Autoplay message before writing. As far as I can tell it is
> working as required. That is, I insert the CD and it bring up the window
> options to play or to rip (or to do something else). When I select either
> "play" or "rip" with the second CD of the set it brings up the library
> showing the contents of the first CD of the set.
>
> It's a commercial album "The Many Sides of Santanta." Each disk is labelled
> "Volume One", "Volume Two" and "Volume Three." WMP 10 only recognixes "The
> Many Sides of Santana."

The other volumes are probably missing from the database or you need to
do a manual search.

I am unable to re-label or re-name of the album.

Did you try editing the "Album Title" field in the Rip pane of WMP?

> I
> tried copying the CDs straight from Windows Exlporer (from a previous version
> of Windows this was a snap with music files).
I don't believe that was possible.

However, when making copies
> this way the newly burned CDs won't play in my standalone CD player.

That's just copying MP3 files to a CD, (rather than the reverse:
copying/ripping from a CD). It's not the same as making an audio/music
CD, which you need WMP or an equivalent for.

I'm
> tired of paying Roxio for upgrades of the software, and the Real Player stuff
> is way too invasive. Figured MS has a good product that would do the trick.
> It probably can; I just don't know how. Thanks.

Hi Mike

Under the Rip tab I added the Album column and then edited the album name to
Santana Vol 1. I then deleted all the Santana songs from the libray. Next I
returned to the rip tab and "Rip Music." In both the Rip and the Library
panes, the album title now reads "Santana Vol 1." I thought this would do
it. However, whenever I put in Volume Two of the Many Sides of Santana into
the cd drive, all of the songs from volume one appear. It still doesn't
recognize the songs in vol two or three. It seems like once I rename the
album I need to flush the memory of WMP 10. I did notice when looking in
the "My Music" folder that a folder now exists labelled "Santana vol 1" and
another exists labelled "The Many Sides of Santana," which contains the same
songs. I tried deleting the "Many sides" folder and reinserting the cd for
vol 2 to no avail.

I really do appreciate you trying to help. Thanks.

"Mike Williams" wrote:

> BV Baron wrote:
> > Thanks Mike,
> >
> > I look at the Autoplay message before writing. As far as I can tell it is
> > working as required. That is, I insert the CD and it bring up the window
> > options to play or to rip (or to do something else). When I select either
> > "play" or "rip" with the second CD of the set it brings up the library
> > showing the contents of the first CD of the set.
> >
> > It's a commercial album "The Many Sides of Santanta." Each disk is labelled
> > "Volume One", "Volume Two" and "Volume Three." WMP 10 only recognixes "The
> > Many Sides of Santana."
>
> The other volumes are probably missing from the database or you need to
> do a manual search.
>
> I am unable to re-label or re-name of the album.
>
> Did you try editing the "Album Title" field in the Rip pane of WMP?
>
> > I
> > tried copying the CDs straight from Windows Exlporer (from a previous version
> > of Windows this was a snap with music files).
> I don't believe that was possible.
>
> However, when making copies
> > this way the newly burned CDs won't play in my standalone CD player.
>
> That's just copying MP3 files to a CD, (rather than the reverse:
> copying/ripping from a CD). It's not the same as making an audio/music
> CD, which you need WMP or an equivalent for.
>
> I'm
> > tired of paying Roxio for upgrades of the software, and the Real Player stuff
> > is way too invasive. Figured MS has a good product that would do the trick.
> > It probably can; I just don't know how. Thanks.
>

BV Baron wrote:
> Hi Mike
>
> Under the Rip tab I added the Album column and then edited the album name to
> Santana Vol 1. I then deleted all the Santana songs from the libray.

Deletion not necessary - the existing tracks could have been refiled
trivially by editing the same fields.

Next I
> returned to the rip tab and "Rip Music." In both the Rip and the Library
> panes, the album title now reads "Santana Vol 1." I thought this would do
> it. However, whenever I put in Volume Two of the Many Sides of Santana into
> the cd drive, all of the songs from volume one appear. It still doesn't
> recognize the songs in vol two or three.

If the online database is wrong then there is nothing you can do locally
to fix the issue (assuming you haven't done a manual search for an
alternate listing). You have to edit all the track data manually if the
online data is missing or incorrect. Get used to it. I have thousands of
CDs and are sizeable proportion are either misrecognized, missing or
have incorrect track data in that database.

It seems like once I rename the
> album I need to flush the memory of WMP 10. I did notice when looking in
> the "My Music" folder that a folder now exists labelled "Santana vol 1" and
> another exists labelled "The Many Sides of Santana," which contains the same
> songs. I tried deleting the "Many sides" folder and reinserting the cd for
> vol 2 to no avail.

None of this is going to have any effect.

Thanks again Mike. I guess you've answered the question although I don't
understand why WMP 10 requires on-line access just to rip and burn a cd. I
have an old Roxio Easy CD Creator program I'll reinstall and go that route.
Thanks again for your help.

"Mike Williams" wrote:

> BV Baron wrote:
> > Hi Mike
> >
> > Under the Rip tab I added the Album column and then edited the album name to
> > Santana Vol 1. I then deleted all the Santana songs from the libray.
>
> Deletion not necessary - the existing tracks could have been refiled
> trivially by editing the same fields.
>
> Next I
> > returned to the rip tab and "Rip Music." In both the Rip and the Library
> > panes, the album title now reads "Santana Vol 1." I thought this would do
> > it. However, whenever I put in Volume Two of the Many Sides of Santana into
> > the cd drive, all of the songs from volume one appear. It still doesn't
> > recognize the songs in vol two or three.
>
> If the online database is wrong then there is nothing you can do locally
> to fix the issue (assuming you haven't done a manual search for an
> alternate listing). You have to edit all the track data manually if the
> online data is missing or incorrect. Get used to it. I have thousands of
> CDs and are sizeable proportion are either misrecognized, missing or
> have incorrect track data in that database.
>
> It seems like once I rename the
> > album I need to flush the memory of WMP 10. I did notice when looking in
> > the "My Music" folder that a folder now exists labelled "Santana vol 1" and
> > another exists labelled "The Many Sides of Santana," which contains the same
> > songs. I tried deleting the "Many sides" folder and reinserting the cd for
> > vol 2 to no avail.
>
> None of this is going to have any effect.
>

BV Baron wrote:
> Thanks again Mike. I guess you've answered the question although I don't
> understand why WMP 10 requires on-line access just to rip and burn a cd.

It doesn't. It only requires it to download track information.


I
> have an old Roxio Easy CD Creator program I'll reinstall and go that route.
> Thanks again for your help.

OK. But I don't see that it solves your problem. You just rip the CDs
and type in the information.... Same as WMP, although sometimes it
downloads the correct track info for you.