"Berndl666" <Berndl666@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I completely agree with Steve!

Then you probably should first understand /how/ the system works, and that
what Steve has described has some inaccuracies in it.

> It is inacceptable that an operating system reboots at will without ANY
> possibility for a user to interact!

A workstation using Automatic Updates... WILL NOT "reboot at will without ANY
possibility for a user to interact".

However, if the user has configured his system to install updates at 3am, and
is logged onto the system at 3am on Patch Tuesday, then that user has a
reasonable expectation that the system is going to prompt him to do a restart
at 3am.

> If a user has open files the OS MUST
> propose a possibility to stop the reboot process and give the user a chance
> to save her work!

Yeah.. in the worst case scenario, where the user does not have Administrative
privileges, the system, by default, places a FIVE MINUTE Modal Dialog
countdown warning on the desktop. Then, it calls the Shutdown command, just
like you would from the Start menu -- which, btw, forces applications to save
all work in progress -- just like would happen if you said "Shutdown" before
you closed MSWord or MSExcel.

> As for Shenans answer: he obivously has never been burdened with
> administrative tasks in a bigger company otherwise he would know how "easy"
> it is to manually keep a big number of client pcs up to date with a MS
> operating system!

What I can tell you is that "... a bigger company [with] a big number of
client pcs.." ought to be using Windows Server Update Services, and if you
/were/ using Windows Server Updates Services, you'd most likely be intimately
familiar with these inner workings of how clients update -- as I'm trying to
explain now.

> as an administrator for several companies i have lately
> received a lot of flak from the respective ceos since automated windows
> updates led to severe data loss for several users. as a result we had to
> switch off the automatic update completely, solving the problems for the
> users but increasing our work as admins. THANKS, MICROSOFT!

Before you Thank Microsoft -- maybe you should do a bit of product and
technology research of your own?

That last sentence speaks volumes about your understanding of how Automatic
Updates and SUS/WSUS works.