"Scott" <holdencaufield@anonymous.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:15:09 -0600, "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]"
> <onsitechsolutions@news.postalias> wrote:
>
>>/This/ is certainly interesting....
>>>2005-11-09 07:31:52 2036 ba8 Report * Computer Brand = System
>>>Manufacturer
>>>2005-11-09 07:31:52 2036 ba8 Report * Computer Model = System Name
>>
>>What can you tell me about this "OEM" system???

> Thanks for the input so far. The system:
> ASUS P4T533-C mother board
> Intel 3.06 GHz 533 MHz FSB 512K Cache
> 1024 Megabytes Installed Memory
> Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
> D-Link DCM-202 Cable Modem
>
> Need anything else?

I was just curious that the System Builder who installed the OEM system did
not configure a "System Manufacturer" or "System Name" in the preinstallation
setup -- but it's a matter of trivia, for the most part, assuming it's a
legitimate OEM package.

"Scott" <holdencaufield@anonymous.net> wrote in message
news:7399n1d3je1c86gfj443ltb9tl0ob5hg3p@4ax.com
....
>>>>Post the %windir%\WindowsUpdate.log that documents this behavior.
>>> The whole log or just the portion of it that occurs
> This should be it:
>
....
> 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 DnldMgr ***********
> DnldMgr: New download job [UpdateId =
> {84B38FE7-A6CA-4E43-A956-A2C53AC0EC0C}.100] ***********
> 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 DnldMgr * Update is
> not allowed to download due to regulation.
> 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 DnldMgr ***********
> DnldMgr: New download job [UpdateId =
> {4515412A-006E-4D88-A9C1-00ED1969CCDE}.100] ***********
> 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 DnldMgr * Update is
> not allowed to download due to regulation.
> 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 Agent *********
> 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 Agent ** END **
> Agent: Downloading updates [CallerId = AutomaticUpdates]
> 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 Agent *************
> 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 AU AU checked
> download status and it changed: Downloading is paused
> 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2004 7d0 AUClnt AU client got
> new directive = 'Shutdown', serviceId =
> {7971F918-A847-4430-9279-4A52D1EFE18D}, return = 0x00000000


In order to get more clues about what the log is really saying
there are some alternative diagnostics you could employ.

1. The easiest to use would be: bitsadmin /monitor /allusers
E.g. with it (in a cmd window) you could tell if a download is actually
happening.

For example, "Downloading is paused" makes it look as if some
downloading was actually done and more might be done later
when AU resumes.

BTW it would also be relevant for you to report what you see happen
in the notification area regarding the AU icon (aka "yellow shield")
and in the Task Manager Processes tab regarding wuauclt.exe.
Process Explorer is a tool which could help more with the latter
observations if you would like to use it instead.

2. My favorite tool for supplementing this log is FileMon
using a filter such as SoftwareDistribution;update;CatRoot
In addition, if you use its Options: Clock Time and Show Milleseconds
you can fairly easily correlate writes to the WindowsUpdate.log
by pattern matching on the length of the records. (The writes to the log
would be captured because of the update; portion of the above filter.)

3. Supposedly there is a verbose mode for logging. (Ref. KB902093)
However, I have never seen much of anything useful from it. YMMV.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---

Hello to all,

Don't know if anyone is still watching this thread but a lot has happened
with my system since my last post here. I appreciate all the responses and
feedback and hope people were helped by it.

As for Windows Update maybe it does work correctly, maybe not. It's hard to
tell at this point because my reinstallation of WinXP SP2 has been
problematic. Several things have gone haywire since my problem with Windows
Update.

The most current problem now is Windows Firewall being on the blink. Two
buttons on the main General tab are greyed out and unselectable. The only
selectable button left is "Don't allow exceptions". I cannot disable Windows
Firewall unless I go into Services. Then, if I disable it in Services it gets
turned back on after reboot. It seems like someone else is controlling my
computer instead of me. This is not funny and seems really spooky to me. I'm
close to getting rid of XP and installing Suse Linux as a replacement OS.

I've wasted a lot of time trying to fix things in XP.......

--A

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> "Scott" <holdencaufield@anonymous.net> wrote in message
> news:7399n1d3je1c86gfj443ltb9tl0ob5hg3p@4ax.com
> ....
> >>>>Post the %windir%\WindowsUpdate.log that documents this behavior.
> >>> The whole log or just the portion of it that occurs
> > This should be it:
> >
> ....
> > 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 DnldMgr ***********
> > DnldMgr: New download job [UpdateId =
> > {84B38FE7-A6CA-4E43-A956-A2C53AC0EC0C}.100] ***********
> > 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 DnldMgr * Update is
> > not allowed to download due to regulation.
> > 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 DnldMgr ***********
> > DnldMgr: New download job [UpdateId =
> > {4515412A-006E-4D88-A9C1-00ED1969CCDE}.100] ***********
> > 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 DnldMgr * Update is
> > not allowed to download due to regulation.
> > 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 Agent *********
> > 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 Agent ** END **
> > Agent: Downloading updates [CallerId = AutomaticUpdates]
> > 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 Agent *************
> > 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2036 2a8 AU AU checked
> > download status and it changed: Downloading is paused
> > 2005-11-09 07:55:15 2004 7d0 AUClnt AU client got
> > new directive = 'Shutdown', serviceId =
> > {7971F918-A847-4430-9279-4A52D1EFE18D}, return = 0x00000000
>
>
> In order to get more clues about what the log is really saying
> there are some alternative diagnostics you could employ.
>
> 1. The easiest to use would be: bitsadmin /monitor /allusers
> E.g. with it (in a cmd window) you could tell if a download is actually
> happening.
>
> For example, "Downloading is paused" makes it look as if some
> downloading was actually done and more might be done later
> when AU resumes.
>
> BTW it would also be relevant for you to report what you see happen
> in the notification area regarding the AU icon (aka "yellow shield")
> and in the Task Manager Processes tab regarding wuauclt.exe.
> Process Explorer is a tool which could help more with the latter
> observations if you would like to use it instead.
>
> 2. My favorite tool for supplementing this log is FileMon
> using a filter such as SoftwareDistribution;update;CatRoot
> In addition, if you use its Options: Clock Time and Show Milleseconds
> you can fairly easily correlate writes to the WindowsUpdate.log
> by pattern matching on the length of the records. (The writes to the log
> would be captured because of the update; portion of the above filter.)
>
> 3. Supposedly there is a verbose mode for logging. (Ref. KB902093)
> However, I have never seen much of anything useful from it. YMMV.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>
>
>

Lawrence Garvin [MVP] wrote:

> (snip)
>
> In the meantime, I'm going to work on getting some 'official'
> guideance from the WUA dev team on exactly what triggers the
> "due to regulation" message in the WindowsUpdate.log.
Hi,

Lawrence, have you gotten any feedback on this one?



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