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Old 01-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Teresa
 
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Default LEGAL Windows XP Validation Key Blocked by an unknown source!!!

After 6 PLUS hours trying to remedy this problem which has caused a nightmare
for me, I have received this reply from my Windows caseworker:
"After further checking the Product Key and PID, I found that the Product
Key is invalid. The PID was created by a keygenned volume license key. From
the screenshot included in your previous email, I found that error code
0x80080220 occurred when performing Windows Validation. Error code 0x80080220
means that Blocked VLK Windows has been installed with an invalid product
key. The machine has a VLK (Volume License Key) that has been blocked by
Microsoft. The key used to install your copy of Windows is a Volume Licensing
Key, which is typically sold to larger corporations. These keys are never
printed on COA stickers that say OEM. The key is in the XP Range Blocked
PID, this indicates that the key was not generated by Microsoft and was
generated by a counterfeiter using a reverse engineered Key Generator". (the
end)
I need to know HOW I am supposed to remedy this without much VALUABLE time &
data lost. I believe that Windows should be on top of this problem, as I have
seen many posts with the same problem.. Windows should be working on a real
remedy for it.. Any advise?
teresa


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Old 01-05-2006, 05:03 PM
waygol
 
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Default RE: LEGAL Windows XP Validation Key Blocked by an unknown source!!!

Not sure how you got your version of XP installed on your machine. However
VLK licenses are not for use by the general public. So the only way that
copy of XP would be valid, is if your company has a valid VLK license. If
so, they should be able to remedy the situatuion. If they do not, then you
remain having an invalid VLK license on your machine. If you purchased the
machine with it installed, then go back to the seller. For that matter, does
your machine have the XP product key attached to it. If it does, you may
want to go back to microsoft with that and see if they can help. Otherwise,
use the link you get at windows update and go through the process of bringing
your copy of xp to geniunine. There is an expense to doing that but, other
than that, it will not be painful.

"Teresa" wrote:

> After 6 PLUS hours trying to remedy this problem which has caused a nightmare
> for me, I have received this reply from my Windows caseworker:
> "After further checking the Product Key and PID, I found that the Product
> Key is invalid. The PID was created by a keygenned volume license key. From
> the screenshot included in your previous email, I found that error code
> 0x80080220 occurred when performing Windows Validation. Error code 0x80080220
> means that Blocked VLK Windows has been installed with an invalid product
> key. The machine has a VLK (Volume License Key) that has been blocked by
> Microsoft. The key used to install your copy of Windows is a Volume Licensing
> Key, which is typically sold to larger corporations. These keys are never
> printed on COA stickers that say OEM. The key is in the XP Range Blocked
> PID, this indicates that the key was not generated by Microsoft and was
> generated by a counterfeiter using a reverse engineered Key Generator". (the
> end)
> I need to know HOW I am supposed to remedy this without much VALUABLE time &
> data lost. I believe that Windows should be on top of this problem, as I have
> seen many posts with the same problem.. Windows should be working on a real
> remedy for it.. Any advise?
> teresa
>
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Teresa
 
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Default RE: LEGAL Windows XP Validation Key Blocked by an unknown source!!

MY legal version of Windows was installed on the PC when I bought it from
DELL in 2003..
Dell doesn't know what to do and neither does Windows..!!!My version is
valid..
My validation key is blocked & can't be unblocked!
I have tried everything they both have recommended.. Microsoft needs to help
me get it UNBLOCKED but they have been "dancing around" the problem..I am mad
to say the least because I use my PC for work and I PAID for the REAL version
of Windows and cant afford proffessional help.....
Thanks anyway!'teresa

"waygol" wrote:

> Not sure how you got your version of XP installed on your machine. However
> VLK licenses are not for use by the general public. So the only way that
> copy of XP would be valid, is if your company has a valid VLK license. If
> so, they should be able to remedy the situatuion. If they do not, then you
> remain having an invalid VLK license on your machine. If you purchased the
> machine with it installed, then go back to the seller. For that matter, does
> your machine have the XP product key attached to it. If it does, you may
> want to go back to microsoft with that and see if they can help. Otherwise,
> use the link you get at windows update and go through the process of bringing
> your copy of xp to geniunine. There is an expense to doing that but, other
> than that, it will not be painful.
>
> "Teresa" wrote:
>
> > After 6 PLUS hours trying to remedy this problem which has caused a nightmare
> > for me, I have received this reply from my Windows caseworker:
> > "After further checking the Product Key and PID, I found that the Product
> > Key is invalid. The PID was created by a keygenned volume license key. From
> > the screenshot included in your previous email, I found that error code
> > 0x80080220 occurred when performing Windows Validation. Error code 0x80080220
> > means that Blocked VLK Windows has been installed with an invalid product
> > key. The machine has a VLK (Volume License Key) that has been blocked by
> > Microsoft. The key used to install your copy of Windows is a Volume Licensing
> > Key, which is typically sold to larger corporations. These keys are never
> > printed on COA stickers that say OEM. The key is in the XP Range Blocked
> > PID, this indicates that the key was not generated by Microsoft and was
> > generated by a counterfeiter using a reverse engineered Key Generator". (the
> > end)
> > I need to know HOW I am supposed to remedy this without much VALUABLE time &
> > data lost. I believe that Windows should be on top of this problem, as I have
> > seen many posts with the same problem.. Windows should be working on a real
> > remedy for it.. Any advise?
> > teresa
> >
> >

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Old 01-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Carey Frisch [MVP]
 
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Default Re: LEGAL Windows XP Validation Key Blocked by an unknown source!!

Dell does not install a Volume License Version of Windows XP
on their computers. Someone apparently installed one on your
computer. You have only two options:

-- Contact Dell and order their Windows XP Reinstallation CD
and reformat your drive and install it.

Clean Install Windows XP
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

-- Purchase a conventional "Full Version" of Windows XP Pro and
perform a "Repair Install".

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Teresa" wrote:

| MY legal version of Windows was installed on the PC when I bought it from
| DELL in 2003..
| Dell doesn't know what to do and neither does Windows..!!!My version is
| valid..
| My validation key is blocked & can't be unblocked!
| I have tried everything they both have recommended.. Microsoft needs to help
| me get it UNBLOCKED but they have been "dancing around" the problem..I am mad
| to say the least because I use my PC for work and I PAID for the REAL version
| of Windows and cant afford proffessional help.....
| Thanks anyway!'teresa
|
| "waygol" wrote:
|
| > Not sure how you got your version of XP installed on your machine. However
| > VLK licenses are not for use by the general public. So the only way that
| > copy of XP would be valid, is if your company has a valid VLK license. If
| > so, they should be able to remedy the situatuion. If they do not, then you
| > remain having an invalid VLK license on your machine. If you purchased the
| > machine with it installed, then go back to the seller. For that matter, does
| > your machine have the XP product key attached to it. If it does, you may
| > want to go back to microsoft with that and see if they can help. Otherwise,
| > use the link you get at windows update and go through the process of bringing
| > your copy of xp to geniunine. There is an expense to doing that but, other
| > than that, it will not be painful.
| >
| > "Teresa" wrote:
| >
| > > After 6 PLUS hours trying to remedy this problem which has caused a nightmare
| > > for me, I have received this reply from my Windows caseworker:
| > > "After further checking the Product Key and PID, I found that the Product
| > > Key is invalid. The PID was created by a keygenned volume license key. From
| > > the screenshot included in your previous email, I found that error code
| > > 0x80080220 occurred when performing Windows Validation. Error code 0x80080220
| > > means that Blocked VLK Windows has been installed with an invalid product
| > > key. The machine has a VLK (Volume License Key) that has been blocked by
| > > Microsoft. The key used to install your copy of Windows is a Volume Licensing
| > > Key, which is typically sold to larger corporations. These keys are never
| > > printed on COA stickers that say OEM. The key is in the XP Range Blocked
| > > PID, this indicates that the key was not generated by Microsoft and was
| > > generated by a counterfeiter using a reverse engineered Key Generator". (the
| > > end)
| > > I need to know HOW I am supposed to remedy this without much VALUABLE time &
| > > data lost. I believe that Windows should be on top of this problem, as I have
| > > seen many posts with the same problem.. Windows should be working on a real
| > > remedy for it.. Any advise?
| > > teresa

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Old 01-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Alias
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> Dell does not install a Volume License Version of Windows XP
> on their computers. Someone apparently installed one on your
> computer. You have only two options:
>
> -- Contact Dell and order their Windows XP Reinstallation CD
> and reformat your drive and install it.
>
> Clean Install Windows XP
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
>
> -- Purchase a conventional "Full Version" of Windows XP Pro and
> perform a "Repair Install".
>
> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm


Translation: Carey is calling the OP a liar and, once again, trying to
scare her into buying a copy of XP that she doesn't need.

Alias
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Lawrence Garvin [MVP]
 
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Default Re: LEGAL Windows XP Validation Key Blocked by an unknown source!!


"Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
news:eCS5AHH6FHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>> Dell does not install a Volume License Version of Windows XP
>> on their computers. Someone apparently installed one on your
>> computer. You have only two options:
>>
>> -- Contact Dell and order their Windows XP Reinstallation CD
>> and reformat your drive and install it.
>>
>> Clean Install Windows XP
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
>>
>> -- Purchase a conventional "Full Version" of Windows XP Pro and
>> perform a "Repair Install".
>>
>> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

>
> Translation: Carey is calling the OP a liar and, once again, trying to scare
> her into buying a copy of XP that she doesn't need.


While I have been critical of some recommendations Carey has made to have
people buy 'new' FPP (retail) copies of Windows XP -- in this case, Carey is
absolutely right. Note also that Carey's first option, here, was to obtain the
REINSTALLATION CD from DELL for /that/ machine - which does not require the
purchase of a new license. Of course, that assumes that the machine has a
valid CoA with a valid Product Key, and the only issue is the lack of
installation media.

The basic point, however, is absolutely correct:
There is no LEGAL means by which Dell would have machines installed
with Volume License Product Keys.

Now.. as for the comment "Dell doesn't know what to do".... that's hogwash,
and the remedy here is to LEAN very hard on Dell. The Service Tag and/or
Express Service Code on the hardware is specifically tied to a purchase
document which specifies exactly what was purchased on that hardware.
Furthermore, if the software is a valid DELL OEM package, the Dell Service Tag
and Express Service Code will be displayed on the Computer | Properties |
System dialog box.

The first step is to verify that the machine was actually purchased with
Windows XP PROFESSIONAL. Note: While the edition that is installed has not
been specifically stated, it's a trivial matter to note that a VLK can /only/
be used to INSTALL the Pro edition of Windows XP. DELL is perfectly capable of
investigating and verifying what operating system was /purchased/ with the
original hardware, and Dell's Customer Service should be pressed to provide
that information to the OP.

Furthermore, if this is a bona fide DELL computer (and don't forget.. DELL,
for a while, sold direct to 'system builders'), and even today a 'system
builder' can purchase a DELL system with no operating system, and then install
an OEM SystemBuilder (or other illegal version, if they want) onto that
system -- then there should be a Certificate of Authentiticy attached to the
CASE of the computer with the proper name of the installed (legal) operating
system and the Product Key used to activate that system.

The machine should either have a Media Kit, which contains the DELL OEM
Product Key hardcoded into the setup files on the CDROM, or the machine
contains a "system partition" which can be used to re-install the ORIGINAL
operating system.

Lacking either of those, however, the only legal remedy, aside from a
cooperative effort from Dell, is to purchase a legal full packaged product.



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Old 01-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Greg Ro
 
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:23:08 -0600, "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]"
<onsitechsolutions@news.postalias> wrote:

>The basic point, however, is absolutely correct:
> There is no LEGAL means by which Dell would have machines installed
>with Volume License Product Keys.



Hmm, I beg to differ.

Two reasons. At a work place. They got a vlk for 2 machines from
dell that included a version fo Microsoft Office.

Another reason
some oem companies preinstall there system with a volume license key.
Mike B of Microsoft has also said this. These are on systems made
before March 2005, I have a legally bought system that has vlk.


You should always try the key fix before buying another copy.
http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/key.html



Greg





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Old 01-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Lawrence Garvin [MVP]
 
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"Greg Ro" <webworm12@yes.lycss.com> wrote in message
news:O0Wtf2I6FHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:23:08 -0600, "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]"
> <onsitechsolutions@news.postalias> wrote:
>
>>The basic point, however, is absolutely correct:
>> There is no LEGAL means by which Dell would have machines installed
>>with Volume License Product Keys.

>
>
> Hmm, I beg to differ.
>
> Two reasons. At a work place. They got a vlk for 2 machines from
> dell that included a version fo Microsoft Office.


No.. they did not get a legal VLK from DELL. Those systems /might/ have
software installed that was legally licensed from a Volume Licensing
Agreement, but the KEY did not come from an OEM -- legally.

> Another reason
> some oem companies preinstall there system with a volume license key.


Again... not LEGALLY. Preinstalled (OEM) software is required to have an OEM
Product Key, not a VL Product Key.

> Mike B of Microsoft has also said this.


Unless Mike B is a senior manager in the Licensing Group, or a lawyer, then
"Mike B" is not an authoritative source. (Neither am I, for what its worth,
anybody who /really/ cares should be asking Microsoft Licensing.)

> These are on systems made
> before March 2005, I have a legally bought system that has vlk.


While it may be legally "bought"... it is not legally licensed.

EXCEPTION: Some LARGE Volume Licensing customers have a SERVICE AGREEMENT
with Dell Consulting to install their software for them. However, in such
arrangements, the software did not come from DELL, nor did the KEY -- both
came from the CUSTOMER.

> You should always try the key fix before buying another copy.
> http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/key.html


Incidentally, this 'fix' is actually published as a Microsoft KB article, and
I've previously cited it elsewhere in regards to these type of issues.
However, for this 'fix' to be useful, one must first possess a VALID key for
the type of system and license installed.

The KB article is http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328874
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 05:03 PM
GregRo
 
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:27:56 -0600, "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]"
<onsitechsolutions@news.postalias> wrote:

>
>"Greg Ro" <webworm12@yes.lycss.com> wrote in message
>news:O0Wtf2I6FHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:23:08 -0600, "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]"
>> <onsitechsolutions@news.postalias> wrote:
>>
>>>The basic point, however, is absolutely correct:
>>> There is no LEGAL means by which Dell would have machines installed
>>>with Volume License Product Keys.

>>
>>
>> Hmm, I beg to differ.
>>
>> Two reasons. At a work place. They got a vlk for 2 machines from
>> dell that included a version fo Microsoft Office.

>
>No.. they did not get a legal VLK from DELL. Those systems /might/ have
>software installed that was legally licensed from a Volume Licensing
>Agreement, but the KEY did not come from an OEM -- legally.
>
>> Another reason
>> some oem companies preinstall there system with a volume license key.

>
>Again... not LEGALLY. Preinstalled (OEM) software is required to have an OEM
>Product Key, not a VL Product Key.
>
>> Mike B of Microsoft has also said this.

>
>Unless Mike B is a senior manager in the Licensing Group, or a lawyer, then
>"Mike B" is not an authoritative source. (Neither am I, for what its worth,
>anybody who /really/ cares should be asking Microsoft Licensing.)
>
>> These are on systems made
>> before March 2005, I have a legally bought system that has vlk.

>
>While it may be legally "bought"... it is not legally licensed.
>


I bought an emachine it legally licensed and did not require
activation from walmart in 2004.

Mike Brannigan told someone in another thread.
That some OEMs (Big manufactures) use VLK to install windows xp on
their machines. So the customer will not have to activate their
system unless they do a repair install.

I have played around with my system to know this

If I use the image key on the emachine it does not have to be
activated on the emachine computer most hardware changes don't count

If I use the oem key listed on my machine it does have to be
activated. Hardware changes would count more so than the above.


As for the key fix
http://www.angelfire.com/in4/computertips/key.html

Keys do get messed up during installation and reinstallation. I know
mine has.



Greg Ro








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Old 01-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Carey Frisch [MVP]
 
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eMachine uses SLP information stored in an OEM PC's BIOS to protect
the installation from casual piracy. When installing an emachine OEM
version of Windows XP, the eMachine CD compares the PC's BIOS to the
SLP information. If it matches, installation is permitted to proceed.
If it does not match, installation is aborted.

Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...411_tn_pa.mspx

You did not accurately quote Mike Brannigan.
No major PC manufacturer uses Volume License versions of XP.
They use "OEM Versions".

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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"GregRo" wrote:

| I bought an emachine it legally licensed and did not require
| activation from walmart in 2004.
|
| Mike Brannigan told someone in another thread.
| That some OEMs (Big manufactures) use VLK to install windows xp on
| their machines. So the customer will not have to activate their
| system unless they do a repair install.
|
| I have played around with my system to know this
|
| If I use the image key on the emachine it does not have to be
| activated on the emachine computer most hardware changes don't count
|
| If I use the oem key listed on my machine it does have to be
| activated. Hardware changes would count more so than the above.
| Keys do get messed up during installation and reinstallation. I know
| mine has.
|
| Greg Ro

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