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Old 01-05-2006, 05:07 PM
John Bompas
 
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Default KB896688 - Safe to install??

Having spent days getting rid of problems caused by KB896688 in October on
my WIN98SE system, is it safe to install it again? Has 896688 been amended
so it doesn't cause big problems on 98SE systems?
Thanks in advance.

p.s. I tried OLEfix.zip but it wouldn't run!


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Old 01-05-2006, 05:07 PM
Ottmar Freudenberger
 
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"John Bompas" <j.bompas@ntlworld.com> schrieb:

> Having spent days getting rid of problems caused by KB896688 in October on
> my WIN98SE system, is it safe to install it again?


Yes.

> Has 896688 been amended so it doesn't cause big problems on 98SE systems?


No. Although those running into problems may conclude, that their system/
configuration isn't special in some kind and that all users are running
into the same problem, the known issues with KB896688 are known issues
on *a few* systems/configurations.

Would you mind sharing some informations on the programs running in the
background while KB896688 or any other update is installed?

> p.s. I tried OLEfix.zip but it wouldn't run!


Please elaborate.

Bye,
Freudi
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:07 PM
Marcus
 
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Default Re: KB896688 - Safe to install??

Yes it's safe......as long as you can get to the control panel to remove it
after it has screwed up your WU site and messed up your Active X controls!
This is another Microsoft Update Turkey. I've tried to fix this for
weeks.....spending hours with no luck. It may only affect a "few" (meaning
thousands) of systems but it is a royal pain. Microsoft should 'fess up and
fix it....like they did with that KB891711 boondoggle back in March!

If you figure it out......puhleeeze let us know!

Marcuis



"John Bompas" <j.bompas@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Having spent days getting rid of problems caused by KB896688 in October on
my WIN98SE system, is it safe to install it again? Has 896688 been amended
so it doesn't cause big problems on 98SE systems?
Thanks in advance.

p.s. I tried OLEfix.zip but it wouldn't run!



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Old 01-05-2006, 05:07 PM
Ottmar Freudenberger
 
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"Marcus" <sashago@comcast.net> schrieb:

> Yes it's safe......as long as you can get to the control panel to remove it
> after it has screwed up your WU site and messed up your Active X controls!


Dear Marcus, please *don't* mix your personal expirience you have
with KB896688 on your system/configuration with systems of other
users. Thanks.

Bye,
Freudi
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:07 PM
Marcus
 
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Default Re: KB896688 - Safe to install??

To whom it may concern,

I don't know why some folks are in such denial about this problem. Here's
another 98SE user (John) who has run into the same thing!
This is not a personal issue.......this is a systemic problem with KB896688.
I'm not "mixing my personal experiences" as much as I am making observations
on the extent of the problem. Obviously, the OLE Fix does not work for
everyone.

Like I wrote many days ago, simple extrapolation leads one to the conclusion
that thousands of Windows users (if not more) are affected by this faulty,
problematic update. Clearly most computer users are not on tech Newsgroups.
Again, if only 5% of a million Windows customers end up with issues like
those that have been described here, then we're talking 50,000 customers!
And that's a very very conservative estimate.

Trying to assign a system idiosyncrasy to my OS is ridiculous in light of
the articles that have been published about the problems with KB896688.
The only solution is to get to the techies at Microsoft and make them
realize that this update MUST BE REPAIRED!

Marcus

"Ottmar Freudenberger" <freudi@gmx.net> wrote in message
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"Marcus" <sashago@comcast.net> schrieb:

> Yes it's safe......as long as you can get to the control panel to remove

it
> after it has screwed up your WU site and messed up your Active X controls!


Dear Marcus, please *don't* mix your personal expirience you have
with KB896688 on your system/configuration with systems of other
users. Thanks.

Bye,
Freudi


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Old 01-05-2006, 05:07 PM
Ottmar Freudenberger
 
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"Marcus" <sashago@comcast.net> schrieb:

> I don't know why some folks are in such denial about this problem. Here's
> another 98SE user (John) who has run into the same thing!


Wow, that would make two.

> This is not a personal issue.......this is a systemic problem with KB896688.


That's plain bull. But feel free to ignore any information which differs
from your expierence and *opinion*. If you don't want us to try to help
you, just don't ask. Yes, I have the impression that you prefer to complain
instead of sharing the requested informations. There are a lot of questions
asked in your "last" thread and a lot of them are still unanswered - by you.

> Obviously, the OLE Fix does not work for everyone.


Not for you and maybe John. These are the _only_ reports I have seen
yet - concerning the *seldom* ActiveX issues.

> Like I wrote many days ago, simple extrapolation leads one to the conclusion
> that thousands of Windows users (if not more) are affected by this faulty

[...]
> then we're talking 50,000 customers!


I'm very impressed. Really.

Bye,
Freudi
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:07 PM
Marcus
 
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You must be kidding! Only two of us?

Here's a post from back in October:

Hi,

After applying the KB896688 update ActiveX (flash, capicom) on pages
stopped working on some computers. The only resolution to it is to
uninstall the update, other tips didn't work (eg. reregistering ole32,
adding the site to the trusted sites, ...).

The MS05-052 bulltein says:
This update introduces additional checks before a COM object is allowed
to run in Internet Explorer. The intent of this change is to prevent COM
objects that were not designed to be instantiated in Internet Explorer
from being instantiated in Internet Explorer.

Is there any info what additional checks were introduced? Maybe it is
the problem. I've found that other people also reported this problem and
it is not only on my computer. I think that the machines with XP SP2 are
affected but I cannot test on more computers. Any MVP here?

regards,
mircu



There are more and several articles.....just google KB896688.


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Old 01-05-2006, 05:07 PM
Ottmar Freudenberger
 
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"Marcus" <sashago@comcast.net> schrieb:

> You must be kidding!


Nope.

> Only two of us?


Yup, two (may be only one) guy(s) having a problem which could not
be solved by the REG file after having KB896688 installed and/or
re"moving" the Program Files folder if installing KB896688 failed.
Oh, yes, and there was
http://google.com/groups?selm=eK9rBM...tngp13.phx.gbl
which you like to ignore.

Thank you very much for your attention & EOD,
Freudi
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:07 PM
John Bompas
 
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Default Re: KB896688 - Safe to install??

Ottmar,
Thanks for your advice. I have done as you suggested, OLEfix.zip and
re-installed 896688 with anti-virus, spy blocker and firewall temporarily
disabled.
Now ALL SEEMS WELL, thanks,
John.

"Ottmar Freudenberger" <freudi@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> "John Bompas" <j.bompas@ntlworld.com> schrieb:
>
> > Having spent days getting rid of problems caused by KB896688 in October

on
> > my WIN98SE system, is it safe to install it again?

>
> Yes.
>
> > Has 896688 been amended so it doesn't cause big problems on 98SE

systems?
>
> No. Although those running into problems may conclude, that their system/
> configuration isn't special in some kind and that all users are running
> into the same problem, the known issues with KB896688 are known issues
> on *a few* systems/configurations.
>
> Would you mind sharing some informations on the programs running in the
> background while KB896688 or any other update is installed?
>
> > p.s. I tried OLEfix.zip but it wouldn't run!

>
> Please elaborate.
>
> Bye,
> Freudi



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Old 01-05-2006, 05:07 PM
Ottmar Freudenberger
 
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Default Re: KB896688 - Safe to install??

"John Bompas" <j.bompas@ntlworld.com> schrieb:

> Thanks for your advice. I have done as you suggested, OLEfix.zip and
> re-installed 896688 with anti-virus, spy blocker and firewall temporarily
> disabled.
> Now ALL SEEMS WELL, thanks,


JW and thanks for posting back, John! :-)

Bye,
Freu"So Marcus remains as lonley rider <g>"di
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