Just wondering if anyone else uses something besides explorer.exe and if
they're happy with it. I've already switched out the file manager
portion to Directory Opus, just wondering about the shell as well ...

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 22:39:16 -0700, Jeff wrote:

> Just wondering if anyone else uses something besides explorer.exe and if
> they're happy with it. I've already switched out the file manager
> portion to Directory Opus, just wondering about the shell as well ...

You could try Cygwin

http://www.cygwin.com/

It's a bash (Unix) shell and unix utilities for Windows.

It does come with a bit of a learning curve, but I like it very much.

"Jeff" <jeffspublicemail@gmail.dawt.org> wrote in message
news:wfqrf.867$TI6.623@fed1read03...
> Just wondering if anyone else uses something besides explorer.exe and if
> they're happy with it. I've already switched out the file manager
> portion to Directory Opus, just wondering about the shell as well ...

While I haven't replaced the shell, I've taken a sort of "half measure" by
always including the GNU Win32 utilties ( http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ )
on every system I own. Gives me a basic working set of the UNIX/Linux tools
for Windows. All I do is download and install it to a C:\UNIX directory and
update my path. Been using it for years, comes in handy.

I've also tried the JP Software ( http://www.jpsoft.com/ ) command line
replacements in the past, 4NT and TC (Take Command, essentially the visual
version of 4NT). They originally started w/ 4DOS, and while it's no longer
supported, it's still offered FREE. Of course, I suspect 4DOS may be
inadequate for some (e.g., not sure if it supports long filenames). 4NT/TC
seems work well enough, does add some nice features like a debugger w/
breakpoints (TC), true subroutines, case statements, etc. But I'm a
cheapskate, never found anything compelling enough to dump $75 for either
(or $100 for both). But I can see where someone who makes extensive use of
the command line would find it money well spent.

HTH

Jim

PowerDesk from V-Com is much better than Explorer. www.v-com.com

"Jeff" <jeffspublicemail@gmail.dawt.org> wrote in message
news:wfqrf.867$TI6.623@fed1read03...
> Just wondering if anyone else uses something besides explorer.exe and if
> they're happy with it. I've already switched out the file manager portion
> to Directory Opus, just wondering about the shell as well ...

On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 05:39:16 -0000, Jeff <jeffspublicemail@gmail.dawt.org>
wrote:

> Just wondering if anyone else uses something besides explorer.exe and if
> they're happy with it. I've already switched out the file manager
> portion to Directory Opus, just wondering about the shell as well ...

Aston Shell
http://www.astonshell.com

--
Martin

Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:42:32 -0800 from Jim <null@null.com>:
> Of course, I suspect 4DOS may be
> inadequate for some (e.g., not sure if it supports long filenames).

It does support them under Win98.

But there are other issues with running 4DOS under XP/ I no longer
remember what they were, but I remember, when I asked the question in
comp.os.msdos.4dos a year or so ago, there was some important reason
not to use 4DOS under XP. I Got a new computer with XP on it around
the beginning of 2005, and following advice bought 4NT for it rather
than transfer my copy of 4DOS.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"Do I smell the revolting stench of self-esteem?"
-- Jon Lovitz, in /The Producers/ (2005)

"Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e1a8fa556a274ef989da6@news.individual.ne t...
> Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:42:32 -0800 from Jim <null@null.com>:
> > Of course, I suspect 4DOS may be
> > inadequate for some (e.g., not sure if it supports long filenames).
>
> It does support them under Win98.
>
> But there are other issues with running 4DOS under XP/ I no longer
> remember what they were, but I remember, when I asked the question in
> comp.os.msdos.4dos a year or so ago, there was some important reason
> not to use 4DOS under XP. I Got a new computer with XP on it around
> the beginning of 2005, and following advice bought 4NT for it rather
> than transfer my copy of 4DOS.
>

Thanx for the info !

Jim

> --
> Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
> http://OakRoadSystems.com/
> "Do I smell the revolting stench of self-esteem?"
> -- Jon Lovitz, in /The Producers/ (2005)

Jeff <jeffspublicemail@gmail.dawt.org> wrote in news:wfqrf.867$TI6.623
@fed1read03:

> Just wondering if anyone else uses something besides explorer.exe and if
> they're happy with it. I've already switched out the file manager
> portion to Directory Opus, just wondering about the shell as well ...

this may be the first time i've seen this question here.

have you looked @ http://www.shellcity.net/ ?

some shells, some extensions.

DanS