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IanCoward wrote:
> Are there any limits in the amount of Useable RAM while using Windows > XP Home or Professional? Also would using large amounts of RAM cause > conflicts elsewhere, with other hardware (graphics cards etc.)? 4GB. So for most people - however much RAM their hardware will allow. However - after 2GB - Windows starts utilizing RAM differently than you think. It takes a "little tweaking". As for conflicts with other devices.. no.. RAM is just considered a part of your motherboard.. It doesn't take up address space or anything. -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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IanCoward wrote:
> Are there any limits in the amount of Useable RAM while using Windows > XP Home or Professional? It's the same for both versions--4GB. That may be more than your motherboard holds, and is probably more than you can make effective use of.. > Also would using large amounts of RAM cause > conflicts elsewhere, with other hardware (graphics cards etc.)? No, but to use 4GB of RAM you have to add a switch to a line in the [Operating Systems] section of boot.ini. Change /fastdetect to /fastdetect /3GB -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup |
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IanCoward wrote:
> Are there any limits in the amount of Useable RAM while using Windows > XP Home or Professional? Also would using large amounts of RAM cause > conflicts elsewhere, with other hardware (graphics cards etc.)? XP Pro supports up to 4GB of RAM. Probably Home does the same, but I'm not sure. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p.../features.mspx There are some caveats with using 4GB of RAM: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../sp2mempr.mspx The amount of RAM is also limited by what your motherboard will support. System RAM will not affect your other hardware such as video card. Most end users will have no reason to have more than 1 or possibly 2 GB or RAM in their system. If you are having a problem that you think is related to memory, post back with details and someone will help you. Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User |
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Are there any limits in the amount of Useable RAM while using Windows XP Home
or Professional? Also would using large amounts of RAM cause conflicts elsewhere, with other hardware (graphics cards etc.)? -- Thanks for the Help. Regards, PP |
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Hi Ken,
I'm not certain that the /3GB switch works on the Windows NT, 2000 or XP Workstation or standard Server platform. My understanding is that the switch only works on the Enterprise, Advanced and Datacenter Server versions. Is that still the case or does XP support the switch? John Ken Blake, MVP wrote: > IanCoward wrote: > > >>Are there any limits in the amount of Useable RAM while using Windows >>XP Home or Professional? > > > > It's the same for both versions--4GB. That may be more than your motherboard > holds, and is probably more than you can make effective use of.. > > > >>Also would using large amounts of RAM cause >>conflicts elsewhere, with other hardware (graphics cards etc.)? > > > > > No, but to use 4GB of RAM you have to add a switch to a line in the > [Operating Systems] section of boot.ini. Change /fastdetect to /fastdetect > /3GB > |
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John John wrote:
> I'm not certain that the /3GB switch works on the Windows NT, 2000 or > XP Workstation or standard Server platform. My understanding is that > the switch only works on the Enterprise, Advanced and Datacenter > Server versions. Is that still the case or does XP support the > switch? Switch has always worked for XP. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/833721 http://www.sysinternals.com/Information/bootini.html http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...c_str_masc.asp http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/1268 -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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John John wrote:
> Hi Ken, > > I'm not certain that the /3GB switch works on the Windows NT, 2000 or > XP Workstation or standard Server platform. My understanding is that > the switch only works on the Enterprise, Advanced and Datacenter > Server versions. Is that still the case or does XP support the > switch? My understanding s that the switch works in XP. However, I hasten to add that I have no personal experience with it and can't speak with assurance. -- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup > Ken Blake, MVP wrote: > >> IanCoward wrote: >> >> >>> Are there any limits in the amount of Useable RAM while using >>> Windows XP Home or Professional? >> >> >> >> It's the same for both versions--4GB. That may be more than your >> motherboard holds, and is probably more than you can make effective >> use of.. >>> Also would using large amounts of RAM cause >>> conflicts elsewhere, with other hardware (graphics cards etc.)? >> >> >> >> >> No, but to use 4GB of RAM you have to add a switch to a line in the >> [Operating Systems] section of boot.ini. Change /fastdetect to >> /fastdetect /3GB |
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Ian
Adding RAM beyond a certain point brings no benefit. Using RAM is quicker in terms of read / write speeds than using the pagefile. If the available physical memory is exhausted the machine will use the page file. If this happens regularly then adding RAM memory will be beneficial within the limits others have explained. Look at the performance tab in Task Manager after a testing session. See if the Peak has exceeded total RAM memory. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FCA Using invalid email address Stourport, Worcs, England Enquire, plan and execute. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please tell the newsgroup how any suggested solution worked for you. http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "IanCoward" <PeterPerfect@racers.com> wrote in message news:BAEBCB3A-D3BB-4960-B81D-22262C9A2AE5@microsoft.com... > Are there any limits in the amount of Useable RAM while using Windows > XP Home > or Professional? Also would using large amounts of RAM cause conflicts > elsewhere, with other hardware (graphics cards etc.)? > -- > Thanks for the Help. Regards, PP |
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SThis advise is terrible. I followed it, adding the / 3GB flag to boot.ini
and had to spend $35 to get Microsoft's technical help to spend three hours to cure the problem your advise caused: with my DELL Dimension 4700 loaded with four 1GB RAM chips setup shows 4GB are loaded correctly but Contrto Panel's System and right clicking my computer show 2.99GB. (.01 is reserved for Video). With a 3GB flag boot.ini prevents booting. Using safe mode to boot, safe mode, safe mode with command line, will not provide the desktop (says it cannot be accessed) and getting to boot.ini no edit program (notepad, wordpad, winword, or Norton Commander) can be used to edit out the flag. Microsoft had me use properties on My Computer, Settings on Startup and Recovery, Edit the startup options and then could edit out the flag with the Notepad display of boot.ini. Microsoft's (800-936-5700) position on their(this) forum is that any advise is questionable, as I found out, and use it at your own risk. Microsoft confirmed that if 4GB is indicated to be correctly installed (using setup upon booting), all of it will be used by Windows XP Home Edition. You can comment back to me at: njaygee@ieee.org. ************************************************** ********** "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > IanCoward wrote: > > > Are there any limits in the amount of Useable RAM while using Windows > > XP Home or Professional? > > > It's the same for both versions--4GB. That may be more than your motherboard > holds, and is probably more than you can make effective use of.. > > > > Also would using large amounts of RAM cause > > conflicts elsewhere, with other hardware (graphics cards etc.)? > > > > No, but to use 4GB of RAM you have to add a switch to a line in the > [Operating Systems] section of boot.ini. Change /fastdetect to /fastdetect > /3GB > > -- > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User > Please reply to the newsgroup > > > |
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Sorry Ken, /3GB has nothing to do with physical memory (RAM), it affects
only how virtual address space is split for given process. (virtual addressable space per process - 4GB (OS 32-bit)). I.E. no /3GB - 2GB for user mode / 2 GB for kernel. With /3GB - 3GB user mode / 1GB for kernel. Doesn't matter how much RAM is installed, even if system has only 32MB RAM, the numbers are still the same. Only processes that have largeaddressspace flag on can benefit from using /3GB. To OP: WinXP 32-bit, is 'licensed' up to 4GB of RAM, no matter how much RAM you motherboard may support, however, because a lots of last gigabyte is reserved for PCI, in reality, you may see only somewhat around 3GB when you install 4GB or more. Using /PAE switch in boot.ini may help a bit, but don't expect miracles, 3.5GB out of total 4 - is very good. "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:%235wkbLU5FHA.1536@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > IanCoward wrote: > >> Are there any limits in the amount of Useable RAM while using Windows >> XP Home or Professional? > > > It's the same for both versions--4GB. That may be more than your > motherboard holds, and is probably more than you can make effective use > of.. > > >> Also would using large amounts of RAM cause >> conflicts elsewhere, with other hardware (graphics cards etc.)? > > > > No, but to use 4GB of RAM you have to add a switch to a line in the > [Operating Systems] section of boot.ini. Change /fastdetect to /fastdetect > /3GB > > -- > Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User > Please reply to the newsgroup > > |
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