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Old 01-05-2006, 02:01 AM
Rob Giordano \(Crash\)
 
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a bigger powersupply is going to generate more heat.


"odeek9" <odeek9@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Hi-Last week I asked you all about converting from a 300W power supply to
one
| of 400W. A lot of good advice. I actually managed to switch to an Antec
| 400W w/o screwing up. Amazing, for me.
| My question is: my system temp. used to always be between 47C & 50C;
now
| it's always between 50C & 53C. Is there a corrolation between the
increase &
| the new UPS? Or is this, basically, normal & nothing to fret over,
| Alan
| --
| Thanks-Alan


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:01 AM
odeek9
 
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Hi-Last week I asked you all about converting from a 300W power supply to one
of 400W. A lot of good advice. I actually managed to switch to an Antec
400W w/o screwing up. Amazing, for me.
My question is: my system temp. used to always be between 47C & 50C; now
it's always between 50C & 53C. Is there a corrolation between the increase &
the new UPS? Or is this, basically, normal & nothing to fret over,
Alan
--
Thanks-Alan
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Old 01-05-2006, 02:01 AM
Ken Blake, MVP
 
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Rob Giordano (Crash) wrote:

> a bigger powersupply is going to generate more heat.



I am not an electrical engineer, and I may be wrong here, but I don't think
that's correct. The wattage rating of a power supply is not how many watts
it puts out, but the *maximum* number of watts it *can* put out. The actual
number of watts is determined by the needs of the equipment connected to it.

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> "odeek9" <odeek9@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:16F41819-F4F3-4A46-AE6E-D4FA2B4B3996@microsoft.com...
>> Hi-Last week I asked you all about converting from a 300W power
>> supply to one of 400W. A lot of good advice. I actually managed to
>> switch to an Antec 400W w/o screwing up. Amazing, for me.
>> My question is: my system temp. used to always be between 47C &
>> 50C; now it's always between 50C & 53C. Is there a corrolation
>> between the increase & the new UPS? Or is this, basically, normal &
>> nothing to fret over, Alan
>> --
>> Thanks-Alan



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Old 01-05-2006, 02:01 AM
philo
 
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"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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> Rob Giordano (Crash) wrote:
>
> > a bigger powersupply is going to generate more heat.

>
>
> I am not an electrical engineer, and I may be wrong here, but I don't

think
> that's correct. The wattage rating of a power supply is not how many watts
> it puts out, but the *maximum* number of watts it *can* put out. The

actual
> number of watts is determined by the needs of the equipment connected to

it.
>



Well I am an electrical engineer...and you are correct in that a larger
capacity supply
will not draw any more power...it merely has the capacity to supply more.
If it has a variable speed fan however...it *might* be turning slower than
the one in the old supply.


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:01 AM
Ken Blake, MVP
 
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philo wrote:

> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:uRo6Zgi5FHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Rob Giordano (Crash) wrote:
>>
>>> a bigger powersupply is going to generate more heat.

>>
>>
>> I am not an electrical engineer, and I may be wrong here, but I
>> don't think that's correct. The wattage rating of a power supply is
>> not how many watts it puts out, but the *maximum* number of watts it
>> *can* put out. The actual number of watts is determined by the needs
>> of the equipment connected to it.
>>

>
>
> Well I am an electrical engineer...and you are correct in that a
> larger capacity supply
> will not draw any more power...it merely has the capacity to supply
> more. If it has a variable speed fan however...it *might* be turning
> slower than the one in the old supply.



Thanks for the confirmation.

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:01 AM
odeek9
 
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The manual states that it has two fans-intake & exhaust. That the intake fan
monitors the system temp & adjusts it's' speed accordingly. If I connect a
certain pin, which I did not, I am suppose to be able to observe the fan's
rpms. Also, the exhaust, exterior, fan remains off until until the power
supply recognizes it is needed. This also contributes to noise suppression.
My main concern is whether, or not, 50-51c is an ok temp?
--
Thanks-Alan


"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> philo wrote:
>
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> > news:uRo6Zgi5FHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> Rob Giordano (Crash) wrote:
> >>
> >>> a bigger powersupply is going to generate more heat.
> >>
> >>
> >> I am not an electrical engineer, and I may be wrong here, but I
> >> don't think that's correct. The wattage rating of a power supply is
> >> not how many watts it puts out, but the *maximum* number of watts it
> >> *can* put out. The actual number of watts is determined by the needs
> >> of the equipment connected to it.
> >>

> >
> >
> > Well I am an electrical engineer...and you are correct in that a
> > larger capacity supply
> > will not draw any more power...it merely has the capacity to supply
> > more. If it has a variable speed fan however...it *might* be turning
> > slower than the one in the old supply.

>
>
> Thanks for the confirmation.
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
>
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:01 AM
Sharon F
 
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:33:02 -0800, odeek9 wrote:

> The manual states that it has two fans-intake & exhaust. That the intake fan
> monitors the system temp & adjusts it's' speed accordingly. If I connect a
> certain pin, which I did not, I am suppose to be able to observe the fan's
> rpms. Also, the exhaust, exterior, fan remains off until until the power
> supply recognizes it is needed. This also contributes to noise suppression.
> My main concern is whether, or not, 50-51c is an ok temp?


Depends on what CPU you're running. On the AMD site, you can look up
optimal temp ranges for the processors they make. I imagine the same info
is available somewhere for Intel processors as well.

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MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
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Old 01-05-2006, 02:01 AM
Rob Giordano \(Crash\)
 
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And if you install a bigger powersupply in a computer that needs one and it
draws more...it won't generate more heat?...sure it will.




"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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|
| "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
| news:uRo6Zgi5FHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| > Rob Giordano (Crash) wrote:
| >
| > > a bigger powersupply is going to generate more heat.
| >
| >
| > I am not an electrical engineer, and I may be wrong here, but I don't
| think
| > that's correct. The wattage rating of a power supply is not how many
watts
| > it puts out, but the *maximum* number of watts it *can* put out. The
| actual
| > number of watts is determined by the needs of the equipment connected to
| it.
| >
|
|
| Well I am an electrical engineer...and you are correct in that a larger
| capacity supply
| will not draw any more power...it merely has the capacity to supply more.
| If it has a variable speed fan however...it *might* be turning slower
than
| the one in the old supply.
|
|


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:01 AM
odeek9
 
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RE: the debate over wattage & temp. I'm, obviously, a novice but I think you
all may be right. I installed a more powerful UPS but I added no new devices
which may need more power. I did so with future considerations in mind. As
of now I think Philo & Ken are correct-the increased power is there only if I
need it. And if that becomes the case & more wattage is required then I
think a higher temp. reading may be justified( as Crash inferred). But as of
right now, which was my poorly worded original question, I don't understand
why the temp has increased a few degrees-unless the fan does rotate more
slowly.
As always, I appreciate everyone's help but Sharon-if I wanted to refer
to a manual somewhere I would have. I figured input from knowledgeable
indiduals would be simpler &, frankly, more fun. Thanks!
--
Thanks-Alan


"Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:

> And if you install a bigger powersupply in a computer that needs one and it
> draws more...it won't generate more heat?...sure it will.
>
>
>
>
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:OZlXhli5FHA.3296@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> |
> | "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> | news:uRo6Zgi5FHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> | > Rob Giordano (Crash) wrote:
> | >
> | > > a bigger powersupply is going to generate more heat.
> | >
> | >
> | > I am not an electrical engineer, and I may be wrong here, but I don't
> | think
> | > that's correct. The wattage rating of a power supply is not how many
> watts
> | > it puts out, but the *maximum* number of watts it *can* put out. The
> | actual
> | > number of watts is determined by the needs of the equipment connected to
> | it.
> | >
> |
> |
> | Well I am an electrical engineer...and you are correct in that a larger
> | capacity supply
> | will not draw any more power...it merely has the capacity to supply more.
> | If it has a variable speed fan however...it *might* be turning slower
> than
> | the one in the old supply.
> |
> |
>
>
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:01 AM
Sharon F
 
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:33:06 -0800, odeek9 wrote:

> As always, I appreciate everyone's help but Sharon-if I wanted to refer
> to a manual somewhere I would have. I figured input from knowledgeable
> indiduals would be simpler &, frankly, more fun. Thanks!


Alan, you're welcome but I addressed only this portion of your question:

> My main concern is whether, or not, 50-51c is an ok temp?


None of us can answer that without knowing what processor is in use.
Anyhow, enjoy your new hardware upgrade!

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MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
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