not as "rare" as one might think. It is epidemic in my environment. I will
read your explanations- thanks. all other searches have ended with lame
"userinit" explanation. here it is not a spyware issue, but we clone pcs and
if we messed up explorer in the image, then it would make sense they are all
broken!!

we'll test this out thanks
--
system engineer


"David Candy" wrote:

> This also fixes a rare problem where QL won't hang around.
>
> Delete these keys or values from the registry. This will reset many things
> like saved folder settings.
> Type Regedit in Start - Run
> Click Start - Turn Off Computer (or maybe Shutdown) - Ctrl + Alt + Shift +
> click Cancel (or Close) (your Desktop and Start Menu now disappear). This is
> a clean shutdown unlike using Task Manager.
>
>
> In Regedit navigate to each of these keys and delete them
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer and
> delete the value
> Shellstate
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Cabinet
> State and delete the value
> Settings
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Streams
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Streams
> MRU (may not exist)
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \BagMRU
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \Bags
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\BagMRU
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags
> [the above one is what reset deletes, 90% of the time it is sufficient but
> 10% of the time the BagMRU needs to be deleted too. If you know what cross
> linked files are the same thing is happening here - the BagMRU point to the
> wrong Bag or serveral BagMRU point to the same bag]
>
>
>
> Then in Task Manager, File - Run type explorer. (Start menu and Desktop come
> back).
>
> You then need to reconfigure explorer and the desktop.
>
> ================================================== =================
>
> Understanding Saved Views and Browsing Folders
> In Windows 2000 Professional, the view you use is not always permanently
> saved in Windows Explorer. You can control whether the views you use are
> saved permanently or temporarily by using the Remember each folder's view
> settings check box on the View tab of the Folder Options dialog box (see
> figure 9.3).
>
> By default the Remember each folder's view settings option is enabled. When
> you choose to leave this setting enabled, the following happens:
>
> a.. The changes you make to a folder's view is automatically saved when
> you close the folder.
> b.. The view you use to view one folder is not applied to other folders.
> c.. When you open a folder, it opens in the view you used when you last
> viewed it.
> When you clear the check box for Remember each folder's view settings, the
> following happens:
>
> a.. When you start Windows Explorer, the first folder you view displays in
> the folder's saved view. Windows Explorer holds that view in temporary
> memory and applies it to all the folders that you visit while Windows
> Explorer remains open unless you manually alter the view.
> b.. As you browse to other folders (after the initial folder is opened),
> the saved view for each folder is ignored, and when you quit Windows
> Explorer, the folder view that you have been using to view multiple folders
> is deleted from temporary memory.
> c.. The next time you open Windows Explorer, once again, it is the saved
> view of the first folder you open that determines how you view multiple
> folders.
> Setting All Folders to the Same View
> Some users want to have all their Windows Explorer folders set to the same
> view. In Windows 2000 Professional, the default setting is that any change
> made to a folder's view is automatically saved when you close the folder and
> is not applied to other folders. However, you can set all folders to the
> same view by using the Folder Options command as described in the following
> procedure.
>
> To set all folders to the same view
> 1.. In My Computer or Windows Explorer, set the view to your preference.
> 2.. On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.
> 3.. In the Folder Options dialog box, click the View tab.
> 4.. Under Folder Views, click Like Current Folder.
> Important The Remember each folder's view settings check box on the View tab
> of the Folder Options dialog box (see Figure 9.3) affects how the view
> settings of individual folders are applied and saved. For more information
> about the impact of clearing this check box, see "Understanding Saved Views
> and Browsing Folders" earlier in this chapter.
>
> Windows 2000 Resource Kit
>
> ================================================== ========================
>
> And check
>
> NoSaveSettings
> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\Explorer
> Data type Range Default value
> REG_DWORD 0 | 1 0
>
> Description
> Prevents users from saving certain changes to the
> desktop. Users can change the desktop, but some changes,
> such as the positions of open windows and the size and
> position of the taskbar, are not saved when users log
> off. Shortcuts placed on the desktop are always saved.
>
> This entry stores the setting of the Don't save settings
> at exit Group Policy. Group Policy adds this entry to the
> registry with a value of 1 when you enable the policy. If
> you disable the policy or set it to Not configured, Group
> Policy deletes the entry from the registry and the system
> behaves as though the value is 0.
>
> Value Meaning
> 0 (or not in registry) The policy is disabled or
> not configured. Changes to the desktop are saved.
> 1 The policy is enabled. Some changes to the desktop are not saved.
>
> Windows 2000 Resource Kit Reference
>
> ================================================== ==========================
>
> Saved folder settings are stored in BagMRU. Defaults and network/removable
> drives are stored in Streams key (as everything was in earlier versions).
>
> You have to do Apply To All while in a file folder.
> For each type of object (File Folder, Control Panel, My Computer, etc) that
> you do an Apply to All in it's clsid and the settings are created/updated at
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Streams
> \Defaults
>
> {F3364BA0-65B9-11CE-A9BA-00AA004AE837} is ordinary folders, and other
> numbers are what ever they are (My Comp, Control Panel, etc - note My Docs
> is an ordinary folder). They only appear IF you do an apply to all in that
> type of object.
>
> as well as a higher set of defaults at
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Streams
> Settings=
>
> So the point being in the order that you do things. You want to do your
> overall default setting last. This is how I advised someone who asked
>
> > Can someone please tell me how to force Windows to keep
> > the seperate folder view settings I choose? I have
> > checked and rechecked the box in folder options for it to
> > remember, but it has no memory for that issue. To be more
> > specific; I want to always have the thumbnail view in My
> > Pictures and also in the Control Panel Dialog, but every
> > time I open them I have to manually set that view.
>
>
> Set Control Panel how you want then Tools - View - Apply To All Folders.
> This sets the global default and the Control Panel type of objects defaults
> (but the system default remains the same - it can't be changed but all other
> defaults/settings override it). Then go to an ordinary folder (as My Pics is
> for this feature) and set it how you want all folders but CP. Then Tools -
> View - Apply To All Folders. This sets the global default and the file
> folder type of object defaults (CP's default settings will still override
> the global). Then set My Pics how you want it and do nothing else as we are
> saving it by the checkbox Remember Folder Settings AND BY THE PATH WE GOT
> THERE. EG
>
> Desktop\My Comp\C:\Documents & Settings\user name\My Docs\My Pics
> is a different setting to
> Desktop\My Comp\My Docs\My Pics
>
> There is some searching for similar settings but the path used, if too
> different, means it won't find the settings for similar named folders.
>
> The system defaults (and saved settings for individual folders already
> opened) are the only setting unless you've done an Apply To All, eg no
> global or type defaults.
>
>
>
> Plus if you hold down control and click close while in a file folder it also
> updates
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer
> Shellstate=
>
> This is mainly setting irrelevent things except it holds the global sort,
> which all the others override. But File Open dialog boxes only use this
> setting, so it basically only affects sorting in File Open dialogs. But it
> seems that sometimes an earlier windows versions setting get written here
> and other settings then aren't saved
>
> typedef struct {
> BOOL fShowAllObjects:1;
> BOOL fShowExtensions:1;
> BOOL fNoConfirmRecycle:1;
> BOOL fShowSysFiles:1;
> BOOL fShowCompColor:1;
> BOOL fDoubleClickInWebView:1;
> BOOL fDesktopHTML:1;
> BOOL fWin95Classic:1;
> BOOL fDontPrettyPath:1;
> BOOL fShowAttribCol:1;
> BOOL fMapNetDrvBtn:1;
> BOOL fShowInfoTip:1;
> BOOL fHideIcons:1;
> BOOL fWebView:1;
> BOOL fFilter:1;
> BOOL fShowSuperHidden:1;
> BOOL fNoNetCrawling:1;
> DWORD dwWin95Unused;
> UINT uWin95Unused;
> LONG lParamSort;
> int iSortDirection;
> UINT version;
> UINT uNotUsed;
> BOOL fSepProcess:1;
> BOOL fStartPanelOn:1;
> BOOL fShowStartPage:1;
> UINT fSpareFlags:13;
> } SHELLSTATE, *LPSHSHELLSTATE;
>
>
>
>
>
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> "Dewey" <Dewey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9124DF6F-AD37-4F57-9522-1DC028C7B209@microsoft.com...
> > Yves,
> >
> > My account is an Admin account. any other thoughts?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dewey
> >
> > "Yves Leclerc" wrote:
> >
> >> Quick Launch may not be stored for next session if the account is a
> >> "limited" user. Quick Launch seems to always work with "Administrator" type
> >> account (a least for me!)
> >>
> >>
> >> "Dewey" <Dewey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:5E725979-A613-4190-B38F-E9C894B9E91C@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have finally decided Quick Launch makes more sense than keeping things on
> >> > the desktop. Problem is, everytime I turn on the computer the quick
> >> > launch
> >> > bar is disabled and I have to go in and activate it again.
> >> >
> >> > I have searched all over for the setting that ensures new preferences are
> >> > saved at the end of the session; but darned if I can remember where it is.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone enlighten me?
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Dewey
> >>
> >>
> >>
>