I have two computers connected to a router and then to a DSL modem. I could
not get mutiplayer to work on any of my games so I decided to try using the
crossover method. I installed a 2nd NIC card in each computer and then
connected the crossover cable. Thats about as far as I got that I know is
done correctly. From there I found directions on the internet to setup
uinque IP number for each card and I did that. The directions said to ping
each computer to make sure it working. When computer 1 pings computer 2, I
get a response. When computer 2 pings computer 1, it times out without a
reponse. What am I doing wrong ?

Thanks - George

Your previous post was answered hours ago. Please refer to that thread. If
you're having difficulties finding things through the web-based newsgroups,
try using Outlook Express and set up a News account (see OE's help for
assistance) for the msnews.microsoft.com news server. You can subscribe to
any Microsoft newsgroups you wish, track your own posts (even in color) and
hide read messages, among other things.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"George" <George@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F1995DF9-1D3B-4318-8663-21200122EEE2@microsoft.com...
>I have two computers connected to a router and then to a DSL modem. I could
> not get mutiplayer to work on any of my games so I decided to try using
> the
> crossover method. I installed a 2nd NIC card in each computer and then
> connected the crossover cable. Thats about as far as I got that I know is
> done correctly. From there I found directions on the internet to setup
> uinque IP number for each card and I did that. The directions said to ping
> each computer to make sure it working. When computer 1 pings computer 2, I
> get a response. When computer 2 pings computer 1, it times out without a
> reponse. What am I doing wrong ?
>
> Thanks - George

Chris - My previous post was in another newsgroup who I was told to go to
this newsgroup for an answer. So if you don't want to answer the question
then simply don't chime in at all - don't need a bunch of unless information
about settings up e-mail accounts.. Thanks for nothing...

"Chris H." wrote:

> Your previous post was answered hours ago. Please refer to that thread. If
> you're having difficulties finding things through the web-based newsgroups,
> try using Outlook Express and set up a News account (see OE's help for
> assistance) for the msnews.microsoft.com news server. You can subscribe to
> any Microsoft newsgroups you wish, track your own posts (even in color) and
> hide read messages, among other things.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "George" <George@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F1995DF9-1D3B-4318-8663-21200122EEE2@microsoft.com...
> >I have two computers connected to a router and then to a DSL modem. I could
> > not get mutiplayer to work on any of my games so I decided to try using
> > the
> > crossover method. I installed a 2nd NIC card in each computer and then
> > connected the crossover cable. Thats about as far as I got that I know is
> > done correctly. From there I found directions on the internet to setup
> > uinque IP number for each card and I did that. The directions said to ping
> > each computer to make sure it working. When computer 1 pings computer 2, I
> > get a response. When computer 2 pings computer 1, it times out without a
> > reponse. What am I doing wrong ?
> >
> > Thanks - George
>
>
>

Sorry, George. I was the one who sent you over here. 8-) Did you try my
previous suggestions? By the way, if you wish to be rude, that'll guarantee
no response. We're users just like you, except volunteer our own time to
try to help other people. And, yes, Outlook Express (or other real NNTP
news reader) is definitely a LOT easier to use than the web-based interface.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"George" <George@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7FA34536-5AD0-4C79-9557-7A5D2BBD4260@microsoft.com...
> Chris - My previous post was in another newsgroup who I was told to go to
> this newsgroup for an answer. So if you don't want to answer the question
> then simply don't chime in at all - don't need a bunch of unless
> information
> about settings up e-mail accounts.. Thanks for nothing...
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> Your previous post was answered hours ago. Please refer to that thread.
>> If
>> you're having difficulties finding things through the web-based
>> newsgroups,
>> try using Outlook Express and set up a News account (see OE's help for
>> assistance) for the msnews.microsoft.com news server. You can subscribe
>> to
>> any Microsoft newsgroups you wish, track your own posts (even in color)
>> and
>> hide read messages, among other things.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "George" <George@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F1995DF9-1D3B-4318-8663-21200122EEE2@microsoft.com...
>> >I have two computers connected to a router and then to a DSL modem. I
>> >could
>> > not get mutiplayer to work on any of my games so I decided to try using
>> > the
>> > crossover method. I installed a 2nd NIC card in each computer and then
>> > connected the crossover cable. Thats about as far as I got that I know
>> > is
>> > done correctly. From there I found directions on the internet to setup
>> > uinque IP number for each card and I did that. The directions said to
>> > ping
>> > each computer to make sure it working. When computer 1 pings computer
>> > 2, I
>> > get a response. When computer 2 pings computer 1, it times out without
>> > a
>> > reponse. What am I doing wrong ?
>> >
>> > Thanks - George
>>
>>
>>

"George" <George@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F1995DF9-1D3B-4318-8663-21200122EEE2@microsoft.com...
>I have two computers connected to a router and then to a DSL modem. I could
> not get mutiplayer to work on any of my games so I decided to try using
> the
> crossover method. I installed a 2nd NIC card in each computer and then
> connected the crossover cable. Thats about as far as I got that I know is
> done correctly. From there I found directions on the internet to setup
> uinque IP number for each card and I did that. The directions said to ping
> each computer to make sure it working. When computer 1 pings computer 2, I
> get a response. When computer 2 pings computer 1, it times out without a
> reponse. What am I doing wrong ?

I've not done networking without a hub or router in about 5 years so bear
with me if I'm hawking back to the 98 days. 8-) I also don't know about the
original thread somewhere, so I don't know what's already been suggested.

Step 1) First off let's get your DNS servers, the network config even
offline will probably ask for some.

Start -> Run -> type cmd and press enter -> In the command prompt type
ipconfig -all and press enter -> find the DNS servers (there should be at
least 2 and jot their IPs down).

Step 2) Disconnect from the router and connect the two machines.

Step 3) Since you're not connected to the internet, shut down all the
firewalls, including the Windows Firewall (Control Panel / Windows
Firewall). If you've got things like Norton firewall, try uninstalling it
and rebooting, if you've got nVidia firewall, shut that down too. Shut them
all down and reboot.

See if it works then - if not, recheck the config and perhaps do it
manually, I never trust the networking wizard.

Step 4) You should have installed on both network cards;

1) Client for Microsoft Networks
2) File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks (typically needed if you
need to transfer patches and stuff between the two machines using file
sharing so always useful to have too)
3) Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
*Really old games may need IPX/SPX and may be NetBIOS too.

In the TCP/IP config you should have for example for machine 1;

IP 192.168.1.10
Subnet 255.255.255.0 (very important subnet mask must be identical on both
machines)
If it wants a Gateway IP use for example 192.168.1.1 (or whatever the router
originally was)
If it asks for your DNS servers input the IPs you took down in step 1.

Machine 2 should be identical apart from the IP address 192.168.1.11 for
example.

That should work, in theory. 8-)

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
http://www.windowsresource.net/
http://www.xbox360degrees.com/

*Remove 'nospam.' to reply by e-mail*

Thank You Very Much for your time...

Happy New Year -

George

"Paul Smith" wrote:

> "George" <George@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F1995DF9-1D3B-4318-8663-21200122EEE2@microsoft.com...
> >I have two computers connected to a router and then to a DSL modem. I could
> > not get mutiplayer to work on any of my games so I decided to try using
> > the
> > crossover method. I installed a 2nd NIC card in each computer and then
> > connected the crossover cable. Thats about as far as I got that I know is
> > done correctly. From there I found directions on the internet to setup
> > uinque IP number for each card and I did that. The directions said to ping
> > each computer to make sure it working. When computer 1 pings computer 2, I
> > get a response. When computer 2 pings computer 1, it times out without a
> > reponse. What am I doing wrong ?
>
> I've not done networking without a hub or router in about 5 years so bear
> with me if I'm hawking back to the 98 days. 8-) I also don't know about the
> original thread somewhere, so I don't know what's already been suggested.
>
> Step 1) First off let's get your DNS servers, the network config even
> offline will probably ask for some.
>
> Start -> Run -> type cmd and press enter -> In the command prompt type
> ipconfig -all and press enter -> find the DNS servers (there should be at
> least 2 and jot their IPs down).
>
> Step 2) Disconnect from the router and connect the two machines.
>
> Step 3) Since you're not connected to the internet, shut down all the
> firewalls, including the Windows Firewall (Control Panel / Windows
> Firewall). If you've got things like Norton firewall, try uninstalling it
> and rebooting, if you've got nVidia firewall, shut that down too. Shut them
> all down and reboot.
>
> See if it works then - if not, recheck the config and perhaps do it
> manually, I never trust the networking wizard.
>
> Step 4) You should have installed on both network cards;
>
> 1) Client for Microsoft Networks
> 2) File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks (typically needed if you
> need to transfer patches and stuff between the two machines using file
> sharing so always useful to have too)
> 3) Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
> *Really old games may need IPX/SPX and may be NetBIOS too.
>
> In the TCP/IP config you should have for example for machine 1;
>
> IP 192.168.1.10
> Subnet 255.255.255.0 (very important subnet mask must be identical on both
> machines)
> If it wants a Gateway IP use for example 192.168.1.1 (or whatever the router
> originally was)
> If it asks for your DNS servers input the IPs you took down in step 1.
>
> Machine 2 should be identical apart from the IP address 192.168.1.11 for
> example.
>
> That should work, in theory. 8-)
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> http://www.windowsresource.net/
> http://www.xbox360degrees.com/
>
> *Remove 'nospam.' to reply by e-mail*
>
>
>

Sorry to unload both barrels on you but I have been struggling with this for
days, looks like I now have an answer from Paul Smith.

Take Care

George

"Chris H." wrote:

> Sorry, George. I was the one who sent you over here. 8-) Did you try my
> previous suggestions? By the way, if you wish to be rude, that'll guarantee
> no response. We're users just like you, except volunteer our own time to
> try to help other people. And, yes, Outlook Express (or other real NNTP
> news reader) is definitely a LOT easier to use than the web-based interface.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "George" <George@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7FA34536-5AD0-4C79-9557-7A5D2BBD4260@microsoft.com...
> > Chris - My previous post was in another newsgroup who I was told to go to
> > this newsgroup for an answer. So if you don't want to answer the question
> > then simply don't chime in at all - don't need a bunch of unless
> > information
> > about settings up e-mail accounts.. Thanks for nothing...
> >
> > "Chris H." wrote:
> >
> >> Your previous post was answered hours ago. Please refer to that thread.
> >> If
> >> you're having difficulties finding things through the web-based
> >> newsgroups,
> >> try using Outlook Express and set up a News account (see OE's help for
> >> assistance) for the msnews.microsoft.com news server. You can subscribe
> >> to
> >> any Microsoft newsgroups you wish, track your own posts (even in color)
> >> and
> >> hide read messages, among other things.
> >> --
> >> Chris H.
> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>
> >>
> >> "George" <George@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:F1995DF9-1D3B-4318-8663-21200122EEE2@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have two computers connected to a router and then to a DSL modem. I
> >> >could
> >> > not get mutiplayer to work on any of my games so I decided to try using
> >> > the
> >> > crossover method. I installed a 2nd NIC card in each computer and then
> >> > connected the crossover cable. Thats about as far as I got that I know
> >> > is
> >> > done correctly. From there I found directions on the internet to setup
> >> > uinque IP number for each card and I did that. The directions said to
> >> > ping
> >> > each computer to make sure it working. When computer 1 pings computer
> >> > 2, I
> >> > get a response. When computer 2 pings computer 1, it times out without
> >> > a
> >> > reponse. What am I doing wrong ?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks - George
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

8-) Good. Paul's pretty darn sharp! Enjoy your LAN play.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"George" <George@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7B89D1B8-A3BF-47C2-916B-A8FB54338B79@microsoft.com...
> Sorry to unload both barrels on you but I have been struggling with this
> for
> days, looks like I now have an answer from Paul Smith.
>
> Take Care
>
> George
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> Sorry, George. I was the one who sent you over here. 8-) Did you try
>> my
>> previous suggestions? By the way, if you wish to be rude, that'll
>> guarantee
>> no response. We're users just like you, except volunteer our own time to
>> try to help other people. And, yes, Outlook Express (or other real NNTP
>> news reader) is definitely a LOT easier to use than the web-based
>> interface.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "George" <George@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7FA34536-5AD0-4C79-9557-7A5D2BBD4260@microsoft.com...
>> > Chris - My previous post was in another newsgroup who I was told to go
>> > to
>> > this newsgroup for an answer. So if you don't want to answer the
>> > question
>> > then simply don't chime in at all - don't need a bunch of unless
>> > information
>> > about settings up e-mail accounts.. Thanks for nothing...
>> >
>> > "Chris H." wrote:
>> >
>> >> Your previous post was answered hours ago. Please refer to that
>> >> thread.
>> >> If
>> >> you're having difficulties finding things through the web-based
>> >> newsgroups,
>> >> try using Outlook Express and set up a News account (see OE's help for
>> >> assistance) for the msnews.microsoft.com news server. You can
>> >> subscribe
>> >> to
>> >> any Microsoft newsgroups you wish, track your own posts (even in
>> >> color)
>> >> and
>> >> hide read messages, among other things.
>> >> --
>> >> Chris H.
>> >> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> >> Associate Expert
>> >> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "George" <George@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:F1995DF9-1D3B-4318-8663-21200122EEE2@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have two computers connected to a router and then to a DSL modem. I
>> >> >could
>> >> > not get mutiplayer to work on any of my games so I decided to try
>> >> > using
>> >> > the
>> >> > crossover method. I installed a 2nd NIC card in each computer and
>> >> > then
>> >> > connected the crossover cable. Thats about as far as I got that I
>> >> > know
>> >> > is
>> >> > done correctly. From there I found directions on the internet to
>> >> > setup
>> >> > uinque IP number for each card and I did that. The directions said
>> >> > to
>> >> > ping
>> >> > each computer to make sure it working. When computer 1 pings
>> >> > computer
>> >> > 2, I
>> >> > get a response. When computer 2 pings computer 1, it times out
>> >> > without
>> >> > a
>> >> > reponse. What am I doing wrong ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks - George
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

I was told at another site to add the following:
My Network Places" and choose properties and then chose "add" button and
from the left list chose "protocol" and u will see in the list something
called "IPX/SPX-compatible protocol" then click ok

My mutiplayer games now work - what is strange is computer 1 can ping
computer 2 but computer 2 can not ping computer 1 !!

But it's working -

"George" wrote:

> Thank You Very Much for your time...
>
> Happy New Year -
>
> George
>
> "Paul Smith" wrote:
>
> > "George" <George@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:F1995DF9-1D3B-4318-8663-21200122EEE2@microsoft.com...
> > >I have two computers connected to a router and then to a DSL modem. I could
> > > not get mutiplayer to work on any of my games so I decided to try using
> > > the
> > > crossover method. I installed a 2nd NIC card in each computer and then
> > > connected the crossover cable. Thats about as far as I got that I know is
> > > done correctly. From there I found directions on the internet to setup
> > > uinque IP number for each card and I did that. The directions said to ping
> > > each computer to make sure it working. When computer 1 pings computer 2, I
> > > get a response. When computer 2 pings computer 1, it times out without a
> > > reponse. What am I doing wrong ?
> >
> > I've not done networking without a hub or router in about 5 years so bear
> > with me if I'm hawking back to the 98 days. 8-) I also don't know about the
> > original thread somewhere, so I don't know what's already been suggested.
> >
> > Step 1) First off let's get your DNS servers, the network config even
> > offline will probably ask for some.
> >
> > Start -> Run -> type cmd and press enter -> In the command prompt type
> > ipconfig -all and press enter -> find the DNS servers (there should be at
> > least 2 and jot their IPs down).
> >
> > Step 2) Disconnect from the router and connect the two machines.
> >
> > Step 3) Since you're not connected to the internet, shut down all the
> > firewalls, including the Windows Firewall (Control Panel / Windows
> > Firewall). If you've got things like Norton firewall, try uninstalling it
> > and rebooting, if you've got nVidia firewall, shut that down too. Shut them
> > all down and reboot.
> >
> > See if it works then - if not, recheck the config and perhaps do it
> > manually, I never trust the networking wizard.
> >
> > Step 4) You should have installed on both network cards;
> >
> > 1) Client for Microsoft Networks
> > 2) File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks (typically needed if you
> > need to transfer patches and stuff between the two machines using file
> > sharing so always useful to have too)
> > 3) Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
> > *Really old games may need IPX/SPX and may be NetBIOS too.
> >
> > In the TCP/IP config you should have for example for machine 1;
> >
> > IP 192.168.1.10
> > Subnet 255.255.255.0 (very important subnet mask must be identical on both
> > machines)
> > If it wants a Gateway IP use for example 192.168.1.1 (or whatever the router
> > originally was)
> > If it asks for your DNS servers input the IPs you took down in step 1.
> >
> > Machine 2 should be identical apart from the IP address 192.168.1.11 for
> > example.
> >
> > That should work, in theory. 8-)
> >
> > --
> > Paul Smith,
> > Yeovil, UK.
> > http://www.windowsresource.net/
> > http://www.xbox360degrees.com/
> >
> > *Remove 'nospam.' to reply by e-mail*
> >
> >
> >