Have activated ClearType for display on a new HP 17" LCD and note a
considerable amount of red vertical lines behind vertical letters (mostly
l,i) almost like some form of ghosting. I've researched a bit through Google
and most of the problems associated with ClearType don't appear related to
my issue. Anyone experience the same problem and if so is there a fix?

Problem goes away if I return to Standard, however I find ClearType a lot
easier on the eyes. Alternatively, can I achieve the same result by playing
with various settings. Incidentally I've checked and no new drivers are
available for my Display Adapter.

I would suggest installing a good AGP video card
rather than using your weak onboard video adapter.

Example of a good video adapter:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130197

Install a graphics card
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3118_7-5023982-1.html

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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"Dapper Dan" wrote:

| Have activated ClearType for display on a new HP 17" LCD and note a
| considerable amount of red vertical lines behind vertical letters (mostly
| l,i) almost like some form of ghosting. I've researched a bit through Google
| and most of the problems associated with ClearType don't appear related to
| my issue. Anyone experience the same problem and if so is there a fix?
|
| Problem goes away if I return to Standard, however I find ClearType a lot
| easier on the eyes. Alternatively, can I achieve the same result by playing
| with various settings. Incidentally I've checked and no new drivers are
| available for my Display Adapter.

Have you tried the Cleartype tuner? You might be able to find a cleartype
setting that works better for you/your monitor.

It is available here
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx
Under the tool 'ClearType Tuner PowerToy'

--
Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP

Find out about the MS MVP Program -
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx

"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
news:Os7ZNbXDGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Have activated ClearType for display on a new HP 17" LCD and note a
> considerable amount of red vertical lines behind vertical letters (mostly
> l,i) almost like some form of ghosting. I've researched a bit through
> Google
> and most of the problems associated with ClearType don't appear related to
> my issue. Anyone experience the same problem and if so is there a fix?
>
> Problem goes away if I return to Standard, however I find ClearType a lot
> easier on the eyes. Alternatively, can I achieve the same result by
> playing
> with various settings. Incidentally I've checked and no new drivers are
> available for my Display Adapter.
>

"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
news:Os7ZNbXDGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Have activated ClearType for display on a new HP 17" LCD and note a
> considerable amount of red vertical lines behind vertical letters (mostly
> l,i) almost like some form of ghosting. I've researched a bit through
> Google
> and most of the problems associated with ClearType don't appear related to
> my issue. Anyone experience the same problem and if so is there a fix?
>
> Problem goes away if I return to Standard, however I find ClearType a lot
> easier on the eyes. Alternatively, can I achieve the same result by
> playing
> with various settings. Incidentally I've checked and no new drivers are
> available for my Display Adapter.
>

Have you tried the ClearType Tuner here:
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo.../download.mspx ?

Don

Thanks Jason

Matter of fact I had downloaded and went through it but didn't notice any
setting changes other than fonts. I'll go back and relook at it.

Dan

"Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
news:OjJYaoXDGHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Have you tried the Cleartype tuner? You might be able to find a cleartype
> setting that works better for you/your monitor.
>
> It is available here
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...powertoys.mspx
> Under the tool 'ClearType Tuner PowerToy'
>
> --
> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>
> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>
> "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Os7ZNbXDGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Have activated ClearType for display on a new HP 17" LCD and note a
>> considerable amount of red vertical lines behind vertical letters (mostly
>> l,i) almost like some form of ghosting. I've researched a bit through
>> Google
>> and most of the problems associated with ClearType don't appear related
>> to
>> my issue. Anyone experience the same problem and if so is there a fix?
>>
>> Problem goes away if I return to Standard, however I find ClearType a lot
>> easier on the eyes. Alternatively, can I achieve the same result by
>> playing
>> with various settings. Incidentally I've checked and no new drivers are
>> available for my Display Adapter.
>>
>
>

Thanks for the suggestion Carey but not quite what I had in mind. If you're
suggesting that the only way to "fix" ClearType is to go out and buy a new
video adapter, I'll pass on using it.

Don, I didn't see the tuner but that mouse is an interesting contraption.
Just can't see myself using it to read normal everyday things on the web!

Dan

"Don MI <>" <d7macm8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uOZuTtXDGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Os7ZNbXDGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Have activated ClearType for display on a new HP 17" LCD and note a
>> considerable amount of red vertical lines behind vertical letters (mostly
>> l,i) almost like some form of ghosting. I've researched a bit through
>> Google
>> and most of the problems associated with ClearType don't appear related
>> to
>> my issue. Anyone experience the same problem and if so is there a fix?
>>
>> Problem goes away if I return to Standard, however I find ClearType a lot
>> easier on the eyes. Alternatively, can I achieve the same result by
>> playing
>> with various settings. Incidentally I've checked and no new drivers are
>> available for my Display Adapter.
>>
>
> Have you tried the ClearType Tuner here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo.../download.mspx ?
>
> Don
>

ClearType is not the issue....your weak onboard
video adapter is the issue. That is why I suggested
installing a dedicated AGP video card.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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"Dapper Dan" wrote:

| Thanks for the suggestion Carey but not quite what I had in mind. If you're
| suggesting that the only way to "fix" ClearType is to go out and buy a new
| video adapter, I'll pass on using it.
|
| Don, I didn't see the tuner but that mouse is an interesting contraption.
| Just can't see myself using it to read normal everyday things on the web!
|
| Dan
|
| "Don MI <>" <d7macm8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:uOZuTtXDGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| >
| > "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
| > news:Os7ZNbXDGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| >> Have activated ClearType for display on a new HP 17" LCD and note a
| >> considerable amount of red vertical lines behind vertical letters (mostly
| >> l,i) almost like some form of ghosting. I've researched a bit through
| >> Google
| >> and most of the problems associated with ClearType don't appear related
| >> to
| >> my issue. Anyone experience the same problem and if so is there a fix?
| >>
| >> Problem goes away if I return to Standard, however I find ClearType a lot
| >> easier on the eyes. Alternatively, can I achieve the same result by
| >> playing
| >> with various settings. Incidentally I've checked and no new drivers are
| >> available for my Display Adapter.
| >>
| >
| > Have you tried the ClearType Tuner here:
| > http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo.../download.mspx ?
| >
| > Don
| >
|
|

Hear you loud and clear, Carey. Thanks

Dan
"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:OVn46eYDGHA.3828@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> ClearType is not the issue....your weak onboard
> video adapter is the issue. That is why I suggested
> installing a dedicated AGP video card.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows - Shell/User
> Microsoft Community Newsgroups
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Dapper Dan" wrote:
>
> | Thanks for the suggestion Carey but not quite what I had in mind. If
> you're
> | suggesting that the only way to "fix" ClearType is to go out and buy a
> new
> | video adapter, I'll pass on using it.
> |
> | Don, I didn't see the tuner but that mouse is an interesting
> contraption.
> | Just can't see myself using it to read normal everyday things on the
> web!
> |
> | Dan
> |
> | "Don MI <>" <d7macm8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:uOZuTtXDGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> | >
> | > "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
> | > news:Os7ZNbXDGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> | >> Have activated ClearType for display on a new HP 17" LCD and note a
> | >> considerable amount of red vertical lines behind vertical letters
> (mostly
> | >> l,i) almost like some form of ghosting. I've researched a bit through
> | >> Google
> | >> and most of the problems associated with ClearType don't appear
> related
> | >> to
> | >> my issue. Anyone experience the same problem and if so is there a
> fix?
> | >>
> | >> Problem goes away if I return to Standard, however I find ClearType a
> lot
> | >> easier on the eyes. Alternatively, can I achieve the same result by
> | >> playing
> | >> with various settings. Incidentally I've checked and no new drivers
> are
> | >> available for my Display Adapter.
> | >>
> | >
> | > Have you tried the ClearType Tuner here:
> | > http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo.../download.mspx ?
> | >
> | > Don
> | >
> |
> |

consider double checking your cleartype tuner settings; ghosting like this
can be caused by improper setting of RGB vs. BGR. 99% of lcd's are RGB,
but a few do require the BGR setting.

and of course, try it w/ cleartype turned off. not everyone agrees that
cleartype makes things better. for max crispness I like cleartype off,
tho I'll admit text is a bit thin/dim...

there are three cleartype tools that I know of...

1) interactive tool:

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...ner/Step1.aspx

2) powertoy:

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...ePowerToy.mspx

3) 3rd party tool:

http://www.ioisland.com/cleartweak/

Sorry, my error. I intended to post the link to PowerToys {which has now
been posted in this thread}. Instead I posted a link I used in reply to
another post.

Don

"Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
news:OrcQDRYDGHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the suggestion Carey but not quite what I had in mind. If
> you're suggesting that the only way to "fix" ClearType is to go out and
> buy a new video adapter, I'll pass on using it.
>
> Don, I didn't see the tuner but that mouse is an interesting contraption.
> Just can't see myself using it to read normal everyday things on the web!
>
> Dan
>
> "Don MI <>" <d7macm8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uOZuTtXDGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:Os7ZNbXDGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> Have activated ClearType for display on a new HP 17" LCD and note a
>>> considerable amount of red vertical lines behind vertical letters
>>> (mostly
>>> l,i) almost like some form of ghosting. I've researched a bit through
>>> Google
>>> and most of the problems associated with ClearType don't appear related
>>> to
>>> my issue. Anyone experience the same problem and if so is there a fix?
>>>
>>> Problem goes away if I return to Standard, however I find ClearType a
>>> lot
>>> easier on the eyes. Alternatively, can I achieve the same result by
>>> playing
>>> with various settings. Incidentally I've checked and no new drivers are
>>> available for my Display Adapter.
>>>
>>
>> Have you tried the ClearType Tuner here:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mo.../download.mspx ?
>>
>> Don
>>
>
>