Ahhh..! Thanks! Always learning!

"Steve N." wrote:

> st.daniel wrote:
> > Just for public/my edification.......
> > If he deletes with Bart's, uses /x to avoid chkdsk/ntfsdsk, then defrags in
> > Safe Mode to hopefully overwrite the filespace with existing files.......
> > Could that work?
>
> Defrag will check the drive for error status, find the dirty bit set and
> halt.
>
> SteveN.
>
> >
> > "Steve N." wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Larry wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thank you for all the suggestions. C Drive is a Maxtor 120 GB SATA drive.
> >>>Went to their web site and it states that their diag does not work on SATA
> >>>drives. Will continue to research this.
> >>>On the /d switch, it is for chkntfs and not chkdsk.
> >>
> >>Sorry I misread that. My mistake. Chkntfs will not reset a dirty bit.
> >>IIRC it can only display status or exclude a drive from being
> >>autochecked, which doesn't fix anything anyway.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Will also try Bart's PE load
> >>
> >>That probably won't be of much help. But what the hey. Couldn't hurt.
> >>
> >>
> >>>I am tring all possible methods to clear this but I think reformating will
> >>>be the final method.
> >>
> >>You may well be right. I'd still get a zero-fill utility and make that
> >>drive as close to clean as whistle before partitioning and formating.
> >>
> >>There are some "generic" HDD tests such as Drive Fitness Test that may
> >>be helpful:
> >>
> >>http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm
> >>
> >>And possibly:
> >>
> >>http://www.dvhardware.net/software/1390
> >>
> >>I think they will work on any brand drive. Not sure, so use at your own
> >>risk and procede with caution.
> >>
> >>Steve N.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Steve N." wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Larry wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>On my C drive that is running WinXP Pro, I was moving files between
> >>>>>directories. During the process my system burped causing the dirty bit to get
> >>>>>set. Now chkdsk wants to run each time I start the system. The two files that
> >>>>>are corrupt are JPG files in MY RECEIVED FILES directory and not system
> >>>>>files. I can not delete them, rename them, copy over top of them, or move
> >>>>>them. When I try anything with the files, an error message comes up that the
> >>>>>files or folders are corrupt. I have read all kinds of information in
> >>>>>different forums and nothing has worked to get rid of these files. Chkdsk /f
> >>>>>does not fix the files. I have read that chkntfs /d will clear the dirty bit,
> >>>>>but will that fix the corrupt files. It seems like the only fix is to do a
> >>>>>backup of the C drive, reformat the C Drive, and copy all the files back to
> >>>>>the hard drive except the corrupt files. If someone has some other ideas, I
> >>>>>sure am listening. Thanks for your help.
> >>>>
> >>>>There is no /d switch for chkdsk.
> >>>>
> >>>>Definitely backup the files first. Then as David suggested run the
> >>>>maunfacturer's dsik diagnostics on it. If chkdsk /f (or /p from recovery
> >>>>console) and/or /r even after repeated runs cannot reset the dirty bit
> >>>>there isn't much else you can do but test the disk with the
> >>>>manufacturers utility, if it comes up clean then you will have to
> >>>>reformat and start over. There is no other reliable way that I know of
> >>>>to clear a stubborn dirty bit and I've researched it faily well. In fact
> >>>>if it were me, I wouldn't merely delete the partition and reformat if
> >>>>the manufacturer test passes, I zero-fill the drive first, then
> >>>>partition and format.
> >>>>
> >>>>Steve N.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

Final solution:
Backed up the C drive
Ran Maxtor's diag on the drive and set all bits to zero
Reformatted the drive with NTFS
Reloaded o/s and programs
No more dirty drive.
Their has to be a better way but I never found it. Thanks for all the
suggestions.
Larry

"Larry" wrote:

> On my C drive that is running WinXP Pro, I was moving files between
> directories. During the process my system burped causing the dirty bit to get
> set. Now chkdsk wants to run each time I start the system. The two files that
> are corrupt are JPG files in MY RECEIVED FILES directory and not system
> files. I can not delete them, rename them, copy over top of them, or move
> them. When I try anything with the files, an error message comes up that the
> files or folders are corrupt. I have read all kinds of information in
> different forums and nothing has worked to get rid of these files. Chkdsk /f
> does not fix the files. I have read that chkntfs /d will clear the dirty bit,
> but will that fix the corrupt files. It seems like the only fix is to do a
> backup of the C drive, reformat the C Drive, and copy all the files back to
> the hard drive except the corrupt files. If someone has some other ideas, I
> sure am listening. Thanks for your help.