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Old 01-05-2006, 02:28 AM
Shane
 
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>>An IE5 add-on that works just as well in IE6 (and iirc - not running it
>>right now - IE7). These
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...s/default.mspx, or
>>components thereof.

>
> OK. I usually prefer to disable all browser enhancements, using
> Firefox or IE7 beta if I want an integrated search bar.
>


I have Firefox set as default. Mostly - these days - I install web
accessories just for the Add to Trusted/Add to Restricted buttons. Only
search bar I use is Google (in Advanced Features Disabled mode) but, like I
say, I use FF anyway.

>>> OTOH, my favorite interventional av (AntiVir 6) is definitely prone to

>
>>Really!

>
>>> false positives, such as signature material within other av scanners

>
> Really, that it false-positives, or Really, that I dig AntiVir 6?


The 'dig' one. Wasn't ready for that revelation but then I have been off the
scene myself much of the last few months (and especially the last
couple...you know about the 'crash'? You appear to have been out of the loop
at the time...*or were you!!*...My God, suddenly it's all so clear! <g>).

>
> I used to think of it (by reputation, untested) as behind Antivir,
> which in turn was behind AVG. I was pleasantly surprised to find it's
> clean to install, survives scraping over, works from Bart, doesn't run
> underfoot (resident) unless you force it to, and detects a lot more
> than most things, esp. trojans and fringe commercial malware.
>
> So it's really good as a second or intervention scanner. As AVG 7
> cannot be used any other way, I still use that as primary/resident av.


I'll try it. Thanks for the tip.

>
>>Quite a while since I tested Bart, too. Looks like the possibilities have
>>increased reassuringly - or at least are being exploited more. Must look
>>at
>>the plugin situation. Or do you write your own these days?

>
> Yep. The plugin thing is quite easy and powerful, most apps that will
> run when scraped over (as opposed to being installed) to a new PC,
> will work as plugins, but you need to use RunScanner plugin if you
> want the inactive HD registry to be accessed, instead of Bart's.
>
> OTOH, if there's a lot of dropped system .DLLs and CLSID stuff, it can
> get very daunting indeed. Dependency Walker helps.
>


Thanks.

>>As for 6.22 I can't be bothered to run it anymore (finally!).

>
> I still have a site on 6.21, I don't think they'll upgrade to 6.22


:-)

>
>>Where'd you go in London? btw I just saw the John Nichol docu in which he
>>goes up in one of the Lightnings at Thunder City! Far out!

>
> I stayed in a B&B on Vincent Square, which is between Victoria Station
> and the river. After Vancouver and Seattle, wich are lovely but
> somewhat generic cities, London felt like an OTT "London" theme park,
> and when I saw the lovely old B&B (a huge arched and gargoyle'd
> ediface that reminded me of Hogwarts) I just grinned from ear to ear!
>


Yeah, the 'theme park' thought is about right. It's disappointing how
unresidential 'town' is - as opposed to, for instance, Paris - but it's
fabulous for travelling around in doing the sights. Now that I've moved out
I miss it terribly. My last year there I finally got round to seeing places
I always intended to but had somehow always found an excuse not to - usually
'just not in the mood!' - and would get a Travelcard and spend half a day
just going from one end to another and as many places in between as I could
think of that evening. Of course, just riding the Tube is a history tour in
itself!

> Thunder City, just outside Cape Town? Yep, they got Lightning, Hunter
> and Buccaneer there, and other lovely old birds in CT include Dakotas
> (still in use, mostly with turboprop engine refits tho), a Shackleton,
> a Ju-52 (!!) and a Bell Iroquoi in 'nam-style paint.
>


I'm starting to consider going. I often overlook, in the enthusiasm for
seeing these engineering works of art, that they come with the sort of
people smart enough to appreciate them.

> I went to an air show in CT lately, and it was interesting to see how
> many military jet aircraft were in fact privately owned and operated.
> In addition to the Thunder City crew, there was the Sasol Tigers
> flying four Czech Delfins, and outside the show I saw three yellow
> Hunters that are run/sponsored by M-Net.
>


Great stuff! Saw a lot of old stuff flying over the house after Fairford
this year, eg MiG 21's, which I'd never seen before, and a couple of
Phantoms. The Italian air display team flying home in formation. I'd have
gone but for my father being in hospital. Wherever I go these days the RAF
VC10s seem to be following me and I'm beginning to feel they owe me a flight
(before they get retired very soon now).

>
>
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> Don't pay malware vendors - boycott Sony
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I was of a similar frame of mind, but have been given a new Cybershot! Well,
at least that wasn't what came with the $crap$ - and I have the various
rootkit scanners.

Shane


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:30 AM
cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)
 
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:22:55 -0000, "Shane"

>>>> OTOH, my favorite interventional av (AntiVir 6) is definitely prone to


>>>Really!


>>>> false positives, such as signature material within other av scanners


>> Really, that it false-positives, or Really, that I dig AntiVir 6?


>The 'dig' one. Wasn't ready for that revelation but then I have been off the
>scene myself much of the last few months (and especially the last
>couple...you know about the 'crash'? You appear to have been out of the loop
>at the time...*or were you!!*...My God, suddenly it's all so clear! <g>).


Still murky here... yes, I was geographically disturbed (in a guud
way) for the last few months, but I'm all better now.

>> So it's really good as a second or intervention scanner. As AVG 7
>> cannot be used any other way, I still use that as primary/resident av.


>I'll try it. Thanks for the tip.


YW...

>> After Vancouver and Seattle, wich are lovely but somewhat
>>generic cities, London felt like an OTT "London" theme park


>Yeah, the 'theme park' thought is about right. It's disappointing how
>unresidential 'town' is - as opposed to, for instance, Paris


I've only spent 2 nights in Paris in 1983, so I don't know much about
the place - especially as I don't understand French and wasn't a big
city walker in those days (constrained by family and tour group ties)

>- but it's fabulous for travelling around in doing the sights.


My fave are the canals. It's an expensive place, tho.

>Of course, just riding the Tube is a history tour in itself!


Yeah - it's palpable in the older stations especially. Right now,
Kuala Lumper is my fave city, and the monorail there's quite a trip;
it banks round corners, but not in a way that makes it easier standing
up, somehow. Use of those roof handle thingies is recommended++

>Great stuff! Saw a lot of old stuff flying over the house after Fairford
>this year, eg MiG 21's, which I'd never seen before, and a couple of
>Phantoms. The Italian air display team flying home in formation. I'd have
>gone but for my father being in hospital. Wherever I go these days the RAF
>VC10s seem to be following me and I'm beginning to feel they owe me a flight


I haven't seen any of those in the metal, heh

>>>---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -

>> Don't pay malware vendors - boycott Sony
>>>---------- ----- ---- --- -- - - - -


>I was of a similar frame of mind, but have been given a new Cybershot! Well,
>at least that wasn't what came with the $crap$ - and I have the various
>rootkit scanners.


It's tricky with commercial malware.especially DRM-related; can you
trust your scanner vendor to detect it? My stance on Sony is
pragmatic as much as it is punitive; as a tech who has to support what
he builds and sells, I don't consider Sony trustworthy when it comes
to software bundled with optical writers and so on, much less laptops
and thier BIOSs. Who knows when they'll try it on again?

Camera should be OK, in that it would stretch plausible deniability to
drop DRM malware from software that comes with a camera.

My new camera's another Canon, after my beloved 4Mp Ixus bit the dust.
The value of my two batteries was a bit more than the gap between the
5Mp model (that uses different batteries) and the 750 7Mp model (that
does use the same batteries), so I specc'd upwards :-)

My first digital camera was a generic 3Mp that turned me on to
costless photography. My second was the 4Mp Canon that turned me on
to macro mode (which suuucked on the generic). The new 7Mp Canon has
turned me on to video clips; smooth, low light OK, 640x480, v.nice



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