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Old 01-05-2006, 02:32 AM
Linønut
 
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After takin' a swig o' grog, Leonardo da Jinn belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> VB.NET is quite an equal citizen. I would trust VB code
> over the pitfalls newbie programmers can get into with C++.
>
> Don't get people's issue with VB. It is based on very
> old information. VB6 was/is productive as hell. Compiled
> fast, robust. VB.NET is undoubtedly more so or MS
> will fix it.


Who cares? VB is a corporate lock-in language.

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:32 AM
Frank ess
 
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Linønut" <"=?iso-8859-1?Q?lin=F8nut?= wrote:
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Leonardo da Jinn belched out this bit
> o'
> wisdom:
>
>> VB.NET is quite an equal citizen. I would trust VB code
>> over the pitfalls newbie programmers can get into with C++.
>>
>> Don't get people's issue with VB. It is based on very
>> old information. VB6 was/is productive as hell. Compiled
>> fast, robust. VB.NET is undoubtedly more so or MS
>> will fix it.

>
> Who cares? VB is a corporate lock-in language.


shhhh

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:32 AM
Leonardo da Jinn
 
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Linønutlinønut@bone.com wrote:
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Leonardo da Jinn belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
> > VB.NET is quite an equal citizen. I would trust VB code
> > over the pitfalls newbie programmers can get into with C++.
> >
> > Don't get people's issue with VB. It is based on very
> > old information. VB6 was/is productive as hell. Compiled
> > fast, robust. VB.NET is undoubtedly more so or MS
> > will fix it.

>
> Who cares? VB is a corporate lock-in language.


If you say so. I've programmed in many /current/ languages
(and OS's) and consciously decided on VB6 for my
personal diddling. It is simply more productive (for me)
and I don't regret the decision at all. Slight regret I didn't
go with .NET, but oh well.

For client-GUI programming: "what is better"

Is there a free package that does Voice Recognition?
Is it blazing fast with graphics?
Can the grid fields handle 30,000 plus entries?

My assumption is that Linux has no Dev. Env.
that comes close to Visual studio / VB6, or
even C++ for that matter.

If so, I'd check out links.




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> --
> I love the smell of code compiling in the morning. It smells like... Freedom.


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:33 AM
Linønut
 
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After takin' a swig o' grog, Leonardo da Jinn belched out this bit o' wisdom:

> For client-GUI programming: "what is better"
>
> Is there a free package that does Voice Recognition?
> Is it blazing fast with graphics?
> Can the grid fields handle 30,000 plus entries?
>
> My assumption is that Linux has no Dev. Env.
> that comes close to Visual studio / VB6, or
> even C++ for that matter.


Linux fits retty much all of the above. (Not sure about grid controls,
as that is a thing I never need.)

But you and I are in completely different programming areas, and are
probably locked into each our own little worlds of coding.

For what it's worth, I use Visual Studio quite heavily (C/C++). I like
it for debugging, but for everything else I prefer a good text editor, a
good layout editor (e.g. Glade), and good old C/C++.

I would much rather trust STL objects than objects djinned up by
Microsoft. I like standards. Go figure.

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:33 AM
Jinn Wins
 
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"Linønut" <"=?iso-8859-1?Q?lin=F8nut?="@bone.com> wrote in message news:Mt-dnZYtKvaESSTeRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> After takin' a swig o' grog, Leonardo da Jinn belched out this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> For client-GUI programming: "what is better"
>>
>> Is there a free package that does Voice Recognition?
>> Is it blazing fast with graphics?
>> Can the grid fields handle 30,000 plus entries?
>>
>> My assumption is that Linux has no Dev. Env.
>> that comes close to Visual studio / VB6, or
>> even C++ for that matter.

>
> Linux fits retty much all of the above.


I highly doubt that.
Any movies of the environment in action?

> (Not sure about grid controls,
> as that is a thing I never need.)
>
> But you and I are in completely different programming areas, and are
> probably locked into each our own little worlds of coding.


In general.

>
> For what it's worth, I use Visual Studio quite heavily (C/C++). I like
> it for debugging, but for everything else I prefer a good text editor, a
> good layout editor (e.g. Glade), and good old C/C++.


I used it for years. MFC, all that.
Biggest project was a 100+ frame app to manage Oracle Replication.

>
> I would much rather trust STL objects than objects djinned up by
> Microsoft. I like standards. Go figure.


I like functionality. Standards lead to committees and committees
lead to ulcers.
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>
> --
> I love the smell of code compiling in the morning. It smells like... Freedom.
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 02:34 AM
Robert
 
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are to continue selling poor quality, overpriced software, continue stealing
technology from other companies, figuring out how to smash Google, and
stealing the gaming market by selling the Xbox 360 at a loss.

This is no joke.

Robert


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:35 AM
Charlie Tame
 
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You don't "Have" to buy Microsoft's products if you don't want to, by
contrast your money is being GIVEN to Halliburton in overpriced and
unfulfilled no-bid contracts without you having any control over the
situation. A matter of priorities perhaps?

Charlie

"Robert" <writer77@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:_cudnaWKOOReiCbeRVn-pA@comcast.com...
> are to continue selling poor quality, overpriced software, continue
> stealing
> technology from other companies, figuring out how to smash Google, and
> stealing the gaming market by selling the Xbox 360 at a loss.
>
> This is no joke.
>
> Robert
>
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 02:35 AM
Dennis M. Hammes
 
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Jinn Wins wrote:

>
> Linux on the other hand is mostly stolen.
>


Wrote that in "Microsoft" BASIC, did you.

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:35 AM
Jinn Wins
 
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"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message news:u$JrB3OEGHA.3052@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> You don't "Have" to buy Microsoft's products if you don't want to, by contrast your money is being GIVEN to Halliburton in
> overpriced and unfulfilled no-bid contracts without you having any control over the situation. A matter of priorities perhaps?
>
> Charlie


No shit.
Plus I think it is worth noting that the Gates Foundation
is seemingly one of the top philanthropic foundations in
the world. http://GatesFoundation.com

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>
> "Robert" <writer77@comcast.net> wrote in message news:_cudnaWKOOReiCbeRVn-pA@comcast.com...
>> are to continue selling poor quality, overpriced software, continue stealing
>> technology from other companies, figuring out how to smash Google, and
>> stealing the gaming market by selling the Xbox 360 at a loss.
>>
>> This is no joke.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>

>
>



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