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01-05-2006, 02:33 AM
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Re: Defragmenter no longer works
Ed,
No Problem... You might try this if you haven't already.Try to re-register the Defrag files: First open up a Command Prompt, this can be found at: Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> Command Prompt Change into your windows\system32 directory. Your windows directory will be either windows or winnt. Type: cd \windows\system32 Register the defrag components, by typing: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll regsvr32 dfrgui.dll If it works, you're good to go. If it doesn't work try what Wesley suggested now. Using Windows Explorer browse to your windows\inf folder. In there you will find a file called dfrg.inf right click this file, and select Install. Hope this helps! -- Regards, Marv Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks http://www.marvswindowstips.com 
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01-05-2006, 02:33 AM
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Re: Defragmenter no longer works
Wesley:
OK, here is the best I can do with your last set of instructions and suggestions. 1. When I enter defrag C: I get the usual response--Disk Defragmenter could not start.... 2. The scannow sfc was a washout. I kept getting messages that said "Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to the DLL cashe. Insert XP CD now." Unfortunately, I could not find my XP CD after two hours of searching. It's been a while.... 3. The Event Viewer showed quite a few errors under Applications and Systems, none under the other category. 4. I went to the website with Registry Mechanic, downloaded it, and ran the trial version, which turned up something like 689 errors in the registry. Fixing them all required a purchase. Do you recommend such a purchase? It sells for $29.99, not bad if it works. 5. Finally, I ran the two regsvr32 files and both succeeded. I'm open to further directions from you or any other computer pro such as yourself. Now to bed. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for all your help. Ed -- Ed "Wesley Vogel" wrote: > Ed, > > What happens if you open a command prompt, type > defrag C: > and hit Enter? > > Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe). > > Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK > > This will take a while. > > If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer. > > Open the Event Viewer... > Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK | > Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection > entries > > More info.. > scannow sfc (sfc.exe) > http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html > > After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll. > > Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK > > Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK > > -- > Hope this helps. Let us know. > > Wes > MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > > In news:1B6E74D6-13EF-4160-8046-4A5114E98447@microsoft.com, > egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: > > Back to Wesley this time: > > > > In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message, e.g., > > volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc. > > > > In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but when I > > click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response: "Disk > > Defragmenter could not start." > > > > What does this tell you? > > > > -- > > Ed > > > > > > "Wesley Vogel" wrote: > > > >> Ed, > >> > >> defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt. > >> > >> dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors. > >> > >> What happens if you open a command prompt... > >> Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK | > >> Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter? > >> Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error message, > >> what's the message? > >> > >> What happens if you... > >> Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK > >> Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an error > >> message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what happens if > >> you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment? > >> > >> -- > >> Hope this helps. Let us know. > >> > >> Wes > >> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > >> > >> In news:539B0AC3-4FC9-48B1-A5B8-5D4DDCFFEDAA@microsoft.com, > >> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: > >>> Marv: > >>> > >>> I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I thought I > >>> ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's only 69K. > >>> > >>> Thanks anyway. Any other ideas? > >>> -- > >>> Ed > >>> > >>> > >>> "Marv" wrote: > >>> > >>>> egleaves, > >>>> Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe. > >>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe > >>>> > >>>> Hope this helps! > >>>> -- > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Marv > >>>> Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks > >>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> "egleaves" wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and install > >>>>> dfrg.inf. > >>>>> > >>>>> But Disk Defragmenter still does not work..... > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not yet..... > >>>>> > >>>>> Any other suggestions? > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Ed > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> \WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> %windir%\inf > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Right click dfrg.inf and select Install > >>>>>> ----- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP > >>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;302347 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To display Hidden files and folders... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab > >>>>>> Check: > >>>>>> Display the contents of system folders > >>>>>> Show hidden files and folders > >>>>>> UNCheck: > >>>>>> Hide protected operating system files (Recommended) > >>>>>> Click Apply | Click OK > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they are > >>>>>> not typical items.]] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Wes > >>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In news:3A218291-A71D-4AE0-AC2D-6E779CE49713@microsoft.com, > >>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: > >>>>>>> My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of > >>>>>>> Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk. Disk > >>>>>>> Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start" and Speed Disk > >>>>>>> says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C. Please check to see > >>>>>>> if another application has the drive locked." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of best > >>>>>>> responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the changes in the > >>>>>>> command prompts as suggested, but still no luck. (I was not able to > >>>>>>> find the windows\inf folder as suggested--any suggestions?) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under Virtual > >>>>>>> Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another writer, but > >>>>>>> still no luck. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart people > >>>>>>> on this issue. My computer badly needs to be defragmented. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Ed > >
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01-05-2006, 02:33 AM
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Re: Defragmenter no longer works
Fellow user here. Tweaked any Services? Defrag requires Task Scheduler
Service, and (maybe) Disk Management Service running to work. Look in Control Panel>Administrative Tools>Services to see if these services are Enabled and Running. HTH "egleaves" wrote: > Wesley: > > OK, here is the best I can do with your last set of instructions and > suggestions. > > 1. When I enter defrag C: I get the usual response--Disk Defragmenter could > not start.... > > 2. The scannow sfc was a washout. I kept getting messages that said > "Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to the > DLL cashe. Insert XP CD now." Unfortunately, I could not find my XP CD > after two hours of searching. It's been a while.... > > 3. The Event Viewer showed quite a few errors under Applications and > Systems, none under the other category. > > 4. I went to the website with Registry Mechanic, downloaded it, and ran the > trial version, which turned up something like 689 errors in the registry. > Fixing them all required a purchase. Do you recommend such a purchase? It > sells for $29.99, not bad if it works. > > 5. Finally, I ran the two regsvr32 files and both succeeded. > > I'm open to further directions from you or any other computer pro such as > yourself. > > Now to bed. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for all your help. > > Ed > > > > -- > Ed > > > "Wesley Vogel" wrote: > > > Ed, > > > > What happens if you open a command prompt, type > > defrag C: > > and hit Enter? > > > > Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe). > > > > Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK > > > > This will take a while. > > > > If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer. > > > > Open the Event Viewer... > > Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK | > > Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection > > entries > > > > More info.. > > scannow sfc (sfc.exe) > > http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html > > > > After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll. > > > > Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK > > > > Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK > > > > -- > > Hope this helps. Let us know. > > > > Wes > > MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > > > > In news:1B6E74D6-13EF-4160-8046-4A5114E98447@microsoft.com, > > egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: > > > Back to Wesley this time: > > > > > > In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message, e.g., > > > volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc. > > > > > > In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but when I > > > click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response: "Disk > > > Defragmenter could not start." > > > > > > What does this tell you? > > > > > > -- > > > Ed > > > > > > > > > "Wesley Vogel" wrote: > > > > > >> Ed, > > >> > > >> defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt. > > >> > > >> dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors. > > >> > > >> What happens if you open a command prompt... > > >> Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK | > > >> Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter? > > >> Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error message, > > >> what's the message? > > >> > > >> What happens if you... > > >> Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK > > >> Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an error > > >> message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what happens if > > >> you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment? > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Hope this helps. Let us know. > > >> > > >> Wes > > >> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > > >> > > >> In news:539B0AC3-4FC9-48B1-A5B8-5D4DDCFFEDAA@microsoft.com, > > >> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: > > >>> Marv: > > >>> > > >>> I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I thought I > > >>> ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's only 69K. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks anyway. Any other ideas? > > >>> -- > > >>> Ed > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> "Marv" wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> egleaves, > > >>>> Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe. > > >>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe > > >>>> > > >>>> Hope this helps! > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Regards, > > >>>> Marv > > >>>> Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks > > >>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> "egleaves" wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and install > > >>>>> dfrg.inf. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> But Disk Defragmenter still does not work..... > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not yet..... > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Any other suggestions? > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> Ed > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> \WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK... > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> %windir%\inf > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Right click dfrg.inf and select Install > > >>>>>> ----- > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP > > >>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;302347 > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> To display Hidden files and folders... > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab > > >>>>>> Check: > > >>>>>> Display the contents of system folders > > >>>>>> Show hidden files and folders > > >>>>>> UNCheck: > > >>>>>> Hide protected operating system files (Recommended) > > >>>>>> Click Apply | Click OK > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> [[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they are > > >>>>>> not typical items.]] > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Wes > > >>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> In news:3A218291-A71D-4AE0-AC2D-6E779CE49713@microsoft.com, > > >>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: > > >>>>>>> My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of > > >>>>>>> Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk. Disk > > >>>>>>> Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start" and Speed Disk > > >>>>>>> says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C. Please check to see > > >>>>>>> if another application has the drive locked." > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of best > > >>>>>>> responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the changes in the > > >>>>>>> command prompts as suggested, but still no luck. (I was not able to > > >>>>>>> find the windows\inf folder as suggested--any suggestions?) > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under Virtual > > >>>>>>> Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another writer, but > > >>>>>>> still no luck. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart people > > >>>>>>> on this issue. My computer badly needs to be defragmented. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>> Ed > > > >
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01-05-2006, 02:34 AM
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Re: Defragmenter no longer works
There is a Logical Disk Manager service and a Logical Disk Manager
Administrative Service service, there is no Disk Management Service that I am aware of in XP. The Task Scheduler service has nothing to do with defrag unless you want to schedule a defrag. None of these are required to be running in order for defrag to work. I have the Logical Disk Manager service, the Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service service and the Task Scheduler service all disabled and defrag works fine on my machine. -- Hope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User In news:E397B546-1B37-49DC-8463-EDE8D6B4389E@microsoft.com, st.daniel <stdaniel@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: > Fellow user here. Tweaked any Services? Defrag requires Task Scheduler > Service, and (maybe) Disk Management Service running to work. Look in > Control Panel>Administrative Tools>Services to see if these services are > Enabled and Running. > > HTH > > "egleaves" wrote: > >> Wesley: >> >> OK, here is the best I can do with your last set of instructions and >> suggestions. >> >> 1. When I enter defrag C: I get the usual response--Disk Defragmenter >> could not start.... >> >> 2. The scannow sfc was a washout. I kept getting messages that said >> "Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to >> the DLL cashe. Insert XP CD now." Unfortunately, I could not find my >> XP CD after two hours of searching. It's been a while.... >> >> 3. The Event Viewer showed quite a few errors under Applications and >> Systems, none under the other category. >> >> 4. I went to the website with Registry Mechanic, downloaded it, and ran >> the trial version, which turned up something like 689 errors in the >> registry. Fixing them all required a purchase. Do you recommend such a >> purchase? It sells for $29.99, not bad if it works. >> >> 5. Finally, I ran the two regsvr32 files and both succeeded. >> >> I'm open to further directions from you or any other computer pro such as >> yourself. >> >> Now to bed. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for all your help. >> >> Ed >> >> >> >> -- >> Ed >> >> >> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: >> >>> Ed, >>> >>> What happens if you open a command prompt, type >>> defrag C: >>> and hit Enter? >>> >>> Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe). >>> >>> Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK >>> >>> This will take a while. >>> >>> If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer. >>> >>> Open the Event Viewer... >>> Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK | >>> Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection >>> entries >>> >>> More info.. >>> scannow sfc (sfc.exe) >>> http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html >>> >>> After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll. >>> >>> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK >>> >>> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK >>> >>> -- >>> Hope this helps. Let us know. >>> >>> Wes >>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >>> >>> In news:1B6E74D6-13EF-4160-8046-4A5114E98447@microsoft.com, >>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>>> Back to Wesley this time: >>>> >>>> In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message, e.g., >>>> volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc. >>>> >>>> In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but when I >>>> click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response: "Disk >>>> Defragmenter could not start." >>>> >>>> What does this tell you? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> >>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ed, >>>>> >>>>> defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt. >>>>> >>>>> dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors. >>>>> >>>>> What happens if you open a command prompt... >>>>> Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK | >>>>> Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter? >>>>> Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error message, >>>>> what's the message? >>>>> >>>>> What happens if you... >>>>> Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK >>>>> Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an >>>>> error message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what >>>>> happens if you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. >>>>> >>>>> Wes >>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >>>>> >>>>> In news:539B0AC3-4FC9-48B1-A5B8-5D4DDCFFEDAA@microsoft.com, >>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>>>>> Marv: >>>>>> >>>>>> I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I thought I >>>>>> ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's only 69K. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks anyway. Any other ideas? >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ed >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Marv" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> egleaves, >>>>>>> Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe. >>>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this helps! >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Marv >>>>>>> Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks >>>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "egleaves" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and install >>>>>>>> dfrg.inf. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But Disk Defragmenter still does not work..... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not yet..... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any other suggestions? >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> \WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> %windir%\inf >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right click dfrg.inf and select Install >>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP >>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;302347 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To display Hidden files and folders... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab >>>>>>>>> Check: >>>>>>>>> Display the contents of system folders >>>>>>>>> Show hidden files and folders >>>>>>>>> UNCheck: >>>>>>>>> Hide protected operating system files (Recommended) >>>>>>>>> Click Apply | Click OK >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they are >>>>>>>>> not typical items.]] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Wes >>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In news:3A218291-A71D-4AE0-AC2D-6E779CE49713@microsoft.com, >>>>>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>>>>>>>>> My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of >>>>>>>>>> Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk. Disk >>>>>>>>>> Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start" and Speed >>>>>>>>>> Disk says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C. Please check >>>>>>>>>> to see if another application has the drive locked." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of best >>>>>>>>>> responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the changes in >>>>>>>>>> the command prompts as suggested, but still no luck. (I was not >>>>>>>>>> able to find the windows\inf folder as suggested--any >>>>>>>>>> suggestions?) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under Virtual >>>>>>>>>> Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another writer, but >>>>>>>>>> still no luck. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart >>>>>>>>>> people on this issue. My computer badly needs to be >>>>>>>>>> defragmented. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Ed
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01-05-2006, 02:34 AM
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Re: Defragmenter no longer works
Ed,
Find your XP CD and try sfc /scannow again. Start in Safe Mode and see if defrag works. To start the computer in safe mode http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d..._failsafe.mspx I just reread your first post. Get rid of Norton's Speed Disk. Just a guess, but I bet that is what's causing the problem. Uninstall Norton's Speed Disk, reboot and try running defrag. If it works and you really want Norton's Speed Disk, reinstall it, reboot and see if Speed Disk and defrag work. You can than judge if Norton's Speed Disk was causing any problem. -- Hope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User In news:5C1FD4E5-47BD-4E71-A7F8-4BBC466627B2@microsoft.com, egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: > Wesley: > > OK, here is the best I can do with your last set of instructions and > suggestions. > > 1. When I enter defrag C: I get the usual response--Disk Defragmenter > could not start.... > > 2. The scannow sfc was a washout. I kept getting messages that said > "Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to the > DLL cashe. Insert XP CD now." Unfortunately, I could not find my XP CD > after two hours of searching. It's been a while.... > > 3. The Event Viewer showed quite a few errors under Applications and > Systems, none under the other category. > > 4. I went to the website with Registry Mechanic, downloaded it, and ran > the trial version, which turned up something like 689 errors in the > registry. Fixing them all required a purchase. Do you recommend such a > purchase? It sells for $29.99, not bad if it works. > > 5. Finally, I ran the two regsvr32 files and both succeeded. > > I'm open to further directions from you or any other computer pro such as > yourself. > > Now to bed. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for all your help. > > Ed > > > > -- > Ed > > > "Wesley Vogel" wrote: > >> Ed, >> >> What happens if you open a command prompt, type >> defrag C: >> and hit Enter? >> >> Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe). >> >> Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK >> >> This will take a while. >> >> If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer. >> >> Open the Event Viewer... >> Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK | >> Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection >> entries >> >> More info.. >> scannow sfc (sfc.exe) >> http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html >> >> After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll. >> >> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK >> >> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK >> >> -- >> Hope this helps. Let us know. >> >> Wes >> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >> >> In news:1B6E74D6-13EF-4160-8046-4A5114E98447@microsoft.com, >> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>> Back to Wesley this time: >>> >>> In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message, e.g., >>> volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc. >>> >>> In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but when I >>> click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response: "Disk >>> Defragmenter could not start." >>> >>> What does this tell you? >>> >>> -- >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: >>> >>>> Ed, >>>> >>>> defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt. >>>> >>>> dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors. >>>> >>>> What happens if you open a command prompt... >>>> Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK | >>>> Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter? >>>> Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error message, >>>> what's the message? >>>> >>>> What happens if you... >>>> Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK >>>> Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an >>>> error message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what >>>> happens if you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. >>>> >>>> Wes >>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >>>> >>>> In news:539B0AC3-4FC9-48B1-A5B8-5D4DDCFFEDAA@microsoft.com, >>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>>>> Marv: >>>>> >>>>> I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I thought I >>>>> ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's only 69K. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks anyway. Any other ideas? >>>>> -- >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Marv" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> egleaves, >>>>>> Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe. >>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps! >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Marv >>>>>> Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks >>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "egleaves" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and install >>>>>>> dfrg.inf. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But Disk Defragmenter still does not work..... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not yet..... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any other suggestions? >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> \WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> %windir%\inf >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Right click dfrg.inf and select Install >>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP >>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;302347 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To display Hidden files and folders... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab >>>>>>>> Check: >>>>>>>> Display the contents of system folders >>>>>>>> Show hidden files and folders >>>>>>>> UNCheck: >>>>>>>> Hide protected operating system files (Recommended) >>>>>>>> Click Apply | Click OK >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they are >>>>>>>> not typical items.]] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wes >>>>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In news:3A218291-A71D-4AE0-AC2D-6E779CE49713@microsoft.com, >>>>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>>>>>>>> My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of >>>>>>>>> Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk. Disk >>>>>>>>> Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start" and Speed >>>>>>>>> Disk says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C. Please check >>>>>>>>> to see if another application has the drive locked." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of best >>>>>>>>> responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the changes in >>>>>>>>> the command prompts as suggested, but still no luck. (I was not >>>>>>>>> able to find the windows\inf folder as suggested--any >>>>>>>>> suggestions?) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under Virtual >>>>>>>>> Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another writer, but >>>>>>>>> still no luck. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart people >>>>>>>>> on this issue. My computer badly needs to be defragmented. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Ed
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Re: Defragmenter no longer works
I had similar trouble last year. In a file that I keep of the "surprises"
and fixes, this is what I wrote. Perhaps this may help: +++++++++++++++++++++ Attempted to run the Windows defragmenter, found that it didn’t respond. Had previously installed, then removed, a 3rd party defragger; it didn’t restore the windows defragger. Here’s the fix found at www.andreasroom.com/HowTo/WindowsDefrag.aspx This is what it says: a.. Go to command prompt, type cd \windows\system32. b.. Then type each of these commands separately, press enter after each: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll regsvr32 dfrgui.dll a.. Go to windows\inf folder, right-click dfrg.inf, choose install. +++++++++++++++++++++ Lee "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message news:eHiaPPIEGHA.140@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > There is a Logical Disk Manager service and a Logical Disk Manager > Administrative Service service, there is no Disk Management Service that I > am aware of in XP. The Task Scheduler service has nothing to do with > defrag > unless you want to schedule a defrag. None of these are required to be > running in order for defrag to work. > > I have the Logical Disk Manager service, the Logical Disk Manager > Administrative Service service and the Task Scheduler service all disabled > and defrag works fine on my machine. > > -- > Hope this helps. Let us know. > > Wes > MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > > In news:E397B546-1B37-49DC-8463-EDE8D6B4389E@microsoft.com, > st.daniel <stdaniel@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >> Fellow user here. Tweaked any Services? Defrag requires Task Scheduler >> Service, and (maybe) Disk Management Service running to work. Look in >> Control Panel>Administrative Tools>Services to see if these services are >> Enabled and Running. >> >> HTH >> >> "egleaves" wrote: >> >>> Wesley: >>> >>> OK, here is the best I can do with your last set of instructions and >>> suggestions. >>> >>> 1. When I enter defrag C: I get the usual response--Disk Defragmenter >>> could not start.... >>> >>> 2. The scannow sfc was a washout. I kept getting messages that said >>> "Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to >>> the DLL cashe. Insert XP CD now." Unfortunately, I could not find my >>> XP CD after two hours of searching. It's been a while.... >>> >>> 3. The Event Viewer showed quite a few errors under Applications and >>> Systems, none under the other category. >>> >>> 4. I went to the website with Registry Mechanic, downloaded it, and ran >>> the trial version, which turned up something like 689 errors in the >>> registry. Fixing them all required a purchase. Do you recommend such a >>> purchase? It sells for $29.99, not bad if it works. >>> >>> 5. Finally, I ran the two regsvr32 files and both succeeded. >>> >>> I'm open to further directions from you or any other computer pro such >>> as >>> yourself. >>> >>> Now to bed. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for all your help. >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: >>> >>>> Ed, >>>> >>>> What happens if you open a command prompt, type >>>> defrag C: >>>> and hit Enter? >>>> >>>> Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe). >>>> >>>> Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK >>>> >>>> This will take a while. >>>> >>>> If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer. >>>> >>>> Open the Event Viewer... >>>> Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK | >>>> Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection >>>> entries >>>> >>>> More info.. >>>> scannow sfc (sfc.exe) >>>> http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html >>>> >>>> After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll. >>>> >>>> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK >>>> >>>> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. >>>> >>>> Wes >>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >>>> >>>> In news:1B6E74D6-13EF-4160-8046-4A5114E98447@microsoft.com, >>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>>>> Back to Wesley this time: >>>>> >>>>> In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message, e.g., >>>>> volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc. >>>>> >>>>> In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but when I >>>>> click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response: "Disk >>>>> Defragmenter could not start." >>>>> >>>>> What does this tell you? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ed, >>>>>> >>>>>> defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt. >>>>>> >>>>>> dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors. >>>>>> >>>>>> What happens if you open a command prompt... >>>>>> Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK | >>>>>> Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter? >>>>>> Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error >>>>>> message, >>>>>> what's the message? >>>>>> >>>>>> What happens if you... >>>>>> Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK >>>>>> Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an >>>>>> error message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what >>>>>> happens if you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wes >>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >>>>>> >>>>>> In news:539B0AC3-4FC9-48B1-A5B8-5D4DDCFFEDAA@microsoft.com, >>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>>>>>> Marv: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I thought >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's only 69K. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks anyway. Any other ideas? >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Marv" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> egleaves, >>>>>>>> Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe. >>>>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hope this helps! >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Marv >>>>>>>> Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks >>>>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "egleaves" wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and install >>>>>>>>> dfrg.inf. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But Disk Defragmenter still does not work..... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not >>>>>>>>> yet..... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any other suggestions? >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> \WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> %windir%\inf >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Right click dfrg.inf and select Install >>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP >>>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;302347 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To display Hidden files and folders... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab >>>>>>>>>> Check: >>>>>>>>>> Display the contents of system folders >>>>>>>>>> Show hidden files and folders >>>>>>>>>> UNCheck: >>>>>>>>>> Hide protected operating system files (Recommended) >>>>>>>>>> Click Apply | Click OK >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> not typical items.]] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wes >>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In news:3A218291-A71D-4AE0-AC2D-6E779CE49713@microsoft.com, >>>>>>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>>>>>>>>>> My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of >>>>>>>>>>> Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk. Disk >>>>>>>>>>> Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start" and Speed >>>>>>>>>>> Disk says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C. Please check >>>>>>>>>>> to see if another application has the drive locked." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of >>>>>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>>>>> responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the changes in >>>>>>>>>>> the command prompts as suggested, but still no luck. (I was not >>>>>>>>>>> able to find the windows\inf folder as suggested--any >>>>>>>>>>> suggestions?) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under Virtual >>>>>>>>>>> Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another writer, but >>>>>>>>>>> still no luck. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart >>>>>>>>>>> people on this issue. My computer badly needs to be >>>>>>>>>>> defragmented. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Ed >
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01-05-2006, 02:34 AM
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Re: Defragmenter no longer works
Well, I ran Fefrag in Safe Made and it worked! While I was at it, I went
ahead and defragged my hard drive, which took most of the afternoon. Defrag in Windows, though, still does not work. As for uninstalling Speed Disk, I recently downloaded Norton SystemWorks and Firewall and thus don't have a CD from which I could reload Speed Disk after uninstalling it. But if Speed Disk is blocking Defrag, does it work the other way too? -- Ed "Wesley Vogel" wrote: > Ed, > > Find your XP CD and try sfc /scannow again. > > Start in Safe Mode and see if defrag works. > > To start the computer in safe mode > http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d..._failsafe.mspx > > I just reread your first post. Get rid of Norton's Speed Disk. Just a > guess, but I bet that is what's causing the problem. > > Uninstall Norton's Speed Disk, reboot and try running defrag. If it works > and you really want Norton's Speed Disk, reinstall it, reboot and see if > Speed Disk and defrag work. You can than judge if Norton's Speed Disk was > causing any problem. > > -- > Hope this helps. Let us know. > > Wes > MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > > In news:5C1FD4E5-47BD-4E71-A7F8-4BBC466627B2@microsoft.com, > egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: > > Wesley: > > > > OK, here is the best I can do with your last set of instructions and > > suggestions. > > > > 1. When I enter defrag C: I get the usual response--Disk Defragmenter > > could not start.... > > > > 2. The scannow sfc was a washout. I kept getting messages that said > > "Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to the > > DLL cashe. Insert XP CD now." Unfortunately, I could not find my XP CD > > after two hours of searching. It's been a while.... > > > > 3. The Event Viewer showed quite a few errors under Applications and > > Systems, none under the other category. > > > > 4. I went to the website with Registry Mechanic, downloaded it, and ran > > the trial version, which turned up something like 689 errors in the > > registry. Fixing them all required a purchase. Do you recommend such a > > purchase? It sells for $29.99, not bad if it works. > > > > 5. Finally, I ran the two regsvr32 files and both succeeded. > > > > I'm open to further directions from you or any other computer pro such as > > yourself. > > > > Now to bed. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for all your help. > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > -- > > Ed > > > > > > "Wesley Vogel" wrote: > > > >> Ed, > >> > >> What happens if you open a command prompt, type > >> defrag C: > >> and hit Enter? > >> > >> Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe). > >> > >> Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK > >> > >> This will take a while. > >> > >> If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer. > >> > >> Open the Event Viewer... > >> Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK | > >> Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection > >> entries > >> > >> More info.. > >> scannow sfc (sfc.exe) > >> http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html > >> > >> After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll. > >> > >> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK > >> > >> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK > >> > >> -- > >> Hope this helps. Let us know. > >> > >> Wes > >> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > >> > >> In news:1B6E74D6-13EF-4160-8046-4A5114E98447@microsoft.com, > >> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: > >>> Back to Wesley this time: > >>> > >>> In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message, e.g., > >>> volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc. > >>> > >>> In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but when I > >>> click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response: "Disk > >>> Defragmenter could not start." > >>> > >>> What does this tell you? > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Ed > >>> > >>> > >>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: > >>> > >>>> Ed, > >>>> > >>>> defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt. > >>>> > >>>> dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors. > >>>> > >>>> What happens if you open a command prompt... > >>>> Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK | > >>>> Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter? > >>>> Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error message, > >>>> what's the message? > >>>> > >>>> What happens if you... > >>>> Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK > >>>> Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an > >>>> error message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what > >>>> happens if you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment? > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. > >>>> > >>>> Wes > >>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > >>>> > >>>> In news:539B0AC3-4FC9-48B1-A5B8-5D4DDCFFEDAA@microsoft.com, > >>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: > >>>>> Marv: > >>>>> > >>>>> I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I thought I > >>>>> ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's only 69K. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks anyway. Any other ideas? > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Ed > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> "Marv" wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> egleaves, > >>>>>> Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe. > >>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hope this helps! > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Marv > >>>>>> Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks > >>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> "egleaves" wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and install > >>>>>>> dfrg.inf. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> But Disk Defragmenter still does not work..... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not yet..... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Any other suggestions? > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Ed > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> \WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> %windir%\inf > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Right click dfrg.inf and select Install > >>>>>>>> ----- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP > >>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;302347 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> To display Hidden files and folders... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab > >>>>>>>> Check: > >>>>>>>> Display the contents of system folders > >>>>>>>> Show hidden files and folders > >>>>>>>> UNCheck: > >>>>>>>> Hide protected operating system files (Recommended) > >>>>>>>> Click Apply | Click OK > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> [[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they are > >>>>>>>> not typical items.]] > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Wes > >>>>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In news:3A218291-A71D-4AE0-AC2D-6E779CE49713@microsoft.com, > >>>>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: > >>>>>>>>> My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of > >>>>>>>>> Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk. Disk > >>>>>>>>> Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start" and Speed > >>>>>>>>> Disk says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C. Please check > >>>>>>>>> to see if another application has the drive locked." > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of best > >>>>>>>>> responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the changes in > >>>>>>>>> the command prompts as suggested, but still no luck. (I was not > >>>>>>>>> able to find the windows\inf folder as suggested--any > >>>>>>>>> suggestions?) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under Virtual > >>>>>>>>> Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another writer, but > >>>>>>>>> still no luck. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart people > >>>>>>>>> on this issue. My computer badly needs to be defragmented. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Ed > >
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Re: Defragmenter no longer works
Well, Ed, this may sound like a crutch, but anytime that you need to defrag, run it in Safe Mode. <shrug> At least it works. ;-) I have absolutely no idea about Speed Disk. I won't have *anything* Norton or McAfee on my machine. -- Hope this helps. Let us know. Wes MS-MVP Windows Shell/User In news:94EAA858-AC50-4D2C-898A-BEEE484A736A@microsoft.com, egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: > Well, I ran Fefrag in Safe Made and it worked! While I was at it, I went > ahead and defragged my hard drive, which took most of the afternoon. > > Defrag in Windows, though, still does not work. > > As for uninstalling Speed Disk, I recently downloaded Norton SystemWorks > and Firewall and thus don't have a CD from which I could reload Speed > Disk after uninstalling it. But if Speed Disk is blocking Defrag, does > it work the other way too? > > -- > Ed > > > "Wesley Vogel" wrote: > >> Ed, >> >> Find your XP CD and try sfc /scannow again. >> >> Start in Safe Mode and see if defrag works. >> >> To start the computer in safe mode >> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d..._failsafe.mspx >> >> I just reread your first post. Get rid of Norton's Speed Disk. Just a >> guess, but I bet that is what's causing the problem. >> >> Uninstall Norton's Speed Disk, reboot and try running defrag. If it >> works and you really want Norton's Speed Disk, reinstall it, reboot and >> see if Speed Disk and defrag work. You can than judge if Norton's Speed >> Disk was causing any problem. >> >> -- >> Hope this helps. Let us know. >> >> Wes >> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >> >> In news:5C1FD4E5-47BD-4E71-A7F8-4BBC466627B2@microsoft.com, >> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>> Wesley: >>> >>> OK, here is the best I can do with your last set of instructions and >>> suggestions. >>> >>> 1. When I enter defrag C: I get the usual response--Disk Defragmenter >>> could not start.... >>> >>> 2. The scannow sfc was a washout. I kept getting messages that said >>> "Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to >>> the DLL cashe. Insert XP CD now." Unfortunately, I could not find my >>> XP CD after two hours of searching. It's been a while.... >>> >>> 3. The Event Viewer showed quite a few errors under Applications and >>> Systems, none under the other category. >>> >>> 4. I went to the website with Registry Mechanic, downloaded it, and ran >>> the trial version, which turned up something like 689 errors in the >>> registry. Fixing them all required a purchase. Do you recommend such a >>> purchase? It sells for $29.99, not bad if it works. >>> >>> 5. Finally, I ran the two regsvr32 files and both succeeded. >>> >>> I'm open to further directions from you or any other computer pro such >>> as yourself. >>> >>> Now to bed. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for all your help. >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: >>> >>>> Ed, >>>> >>>> What happens if you open a command prompt, type >>>> defrag C: >>>> and hit Enter? >>>> >>>> Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe). >>>> >>>> Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK >>>> >>>> This will take a while. >>>> >>>> If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer. >>>> >>>> Open the Event Viewer... >>>> Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK | >>>> Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection >>>> entries >>>> >>>> More info.. >>>> scannow sfc (sfc.exe) >>>> http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html >>>> >>>> After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll. >>>> >>>> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK >>>> >>>> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. >>>> >>>> Wes >>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >>>> >>>> In news:1B6E74D6-13EF-4160-8046-4A5114E98447@microsoft.com, >>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>>>> Back to Wesley this time: >>>>> >>>>> In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message, e.g., >>>>> volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc. >>>>> >>>>> In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but when I >>>>> click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response: "Disk >>>>> Defragmenter could not start." >>>>> >>>>> What does this tell you? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ed >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ed, >>>>>> >>>>>> defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt. >>>>>> >>>>>> dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors. >>>>>> >>>>>> What happens if you open a command prompt... >>>>>> Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK | >>>>>> Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter? >>>>>> Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error >>>>>> message, what's the message? >>>>>> >>>>>> What happens if you... >>>>>> Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK >>>>>> Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an >>>>>> error message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what >>>>>> happens if you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wes >>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >>>>>> >>>>>> In news:539B0AC3-4FC9-48B1-A5B8-5D4DDCFFEDAA@microsoft.com, >>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>>>>>> Marv: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I thought >>>>>>> I ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's only 69K. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks anyway. Any other ideas? >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Marv" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> egleaves, >>>>>>>> Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe. >>>>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hope this helps! >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Marv >>>>>>>> Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks >>>>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "egleaves" wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and install >>>>>>>>> dfrg.inf. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But Disk Defragmenter still does not work..... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not >>>>>>>>> yet..... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any other suggestions? >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> \WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> %windir%\inf >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Right click dfrg.inf and select Install >>>>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP >>>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;302347 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To display Hidden files and folders... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab >>>>>>>>>> Check: >>>>>>>>>> Display the contents of system folders >>>>>>>>>> Show hidden files and folders >>>>>>>>>> UNCheck: >>>>>>>>>> Hide protected operating system files (Recommended) >>>>>>>>>> Click Apply | Click OK >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they >>>>>>>>>> are not typical items.]] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wes >>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In news:3A218291-A71D-4AE0-AC2D-6E779CE49713@microsoft.com, >>>>>>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked: >>>>>>>>>>> My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of >>>>>>>>>>> Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk. Disk >>>>>>>>>>> Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start" and Speed >>>>>>>>>>> Disk says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C. Please check >>>>>>>>>>> to see if another application has the drive locked." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of >>>>>>>>>>> best responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the >>>>>>>>>>> changes in the command prompts as suggested, but still no luck. >>>>>>>>>>> (I was not able to find the windows\inf folder as suggested--any >>>>>>>>>>> suggestions?) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under Virtual >>>>>>>>>>> Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another writer, but >>>>>>>>>>> still no luck. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart >>>>>>>>>>> peo |
