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Old 01-05-2006, 02:32 AM
troy
 
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Default 4gb RAM installed and working showing 3gb useable on XP

Checked KB and this forum, nothing useful. 4gb in 4 sticks working on startup
and memory check. All sticks checked ok and all swap configurations done.
Only 3gb showing in XP pro system and task manager performance. 3gb switch
set in boot and working for applications at 2.701mb. SP2. Latest bios level,
server MB supports 6gb.
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Old 01-05-2006, 02:32 AM
Rock
 
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Default Re: 4gb RAM installed and working showing 3gb useable on XP

troy wrote:

> Checked KB and this forum, nothing useful. 4gb in 4 sticks working on startup
> and memory check. All sticks checked ok and all swap configurations done.
> Only 3gb showing in XP pro system and task manager performance. 3gb switch
> set in boot and working for applications at 2.701mb. SP2. Latest bios level,
> server MB supports 6gb.


That's normal. XP has a 4GB address space but programs can only access
3 GB if the /3GB switch is set.

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:32 AM
troy
 
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Default Re: 4gb RAM installed and working showing 3gb useable on XP

Sorry, did not answer the question. XP sees only 3gb with 4 gb installed.

"Rock" wrote:

> troy wrote:
>
> > Checked KB and this forum, nothing useful. 4gb in 4 sticks working on startup
> > and memory check. All sticks checked ok and all swap configurations done.
> > Only 3gb showing in XP pro system and task manager performance. 3gb switch
> > set in boot and working for applications at 2.701mb. SP2. Latest bios level,
> > server MB supports 6gb.

>
> That's normal. XP has a 4GB address space but programs can only access
> 3 GB if the /3GB switch is set.
>
> --
> Rock
> MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:32 AM
Rock
 
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Default Re: 4gb RAM installed and working showing 3gb useable on XP

troy wrote:

> Sorry, did not answer the question. XP sees only 3gb with 4 gb installed.
>
> "Rock" wrote:
>
>
>>troy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Checked KB and this forum, nothing useful. 4gb in 4 sticks working on startup
>>>and memory check. All sticks checked ok and all swap configurations done.
>>>Only 3gb showing in XP pro system and task manager performance. 3gb switch
>>>set in boot and working for applications at 2.701mb. SP2. Latest bios level,
>>>server MB supports 6gb.

>>
>>That's normal. XP has a 4GB address space but programs can only access
>>3 GB if the /3GB switch is set.
>>
>>--
>>Rock
>>MS MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>
>>


And that's all it will show.

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:32 AM
Kerry Brown
 
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Default Re: 4gb RAM installed and working showing 3gb useable on XP

troy wrote:
> Sorry, did not answer the question. XP sees only 3gb with 4 gb
> installed.
>
> "Rock" wrote:
>
>> troy wrote:
>>
>>> Checked KB and this forum, nothing useful. 4gb in 4 sticks working
>>> on startup and memory check. All sticks checked ok and all swap
>>> configurations done. Only 3gb showing in XP pro system and task
>>> manager performance. 3gb switch set in boot and working for
>>> applications at 2.701mb. SP2. Latest bios level, server MB supports
>>> 6gb.

>>
>> That's normal. XP has a 4GB address space but programs can only
>> access 3 GB if the /3GB switch is set.
>>
>> --
>> Rock
>> MS MVP Windows - Shell/User


It did answer the question Windows XP can see 4 GB of memory space.
Unfortunately it cannot use 4 GB of RAM. Some of the address space is
reserved for other purposes. If you hunt around you can find tweaks to get
around 3.25 GB. Any more you'll have to get the 64 bit version.

Kerry


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:33 AM
Jim
 
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"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:%23TRuvz$DGHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> troy wrote:
>> Sorry, did not answer the question. XP sees only 3gb with 4 gb
>> installed.
>>
>> "Rock" wrote:
>>
>>> troy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Checked KB and this forum, nothing useful. 4gb in 4 sticks working
>>>> on startup and memory check. All sticks checked ok and all swap
>>>> configurations done. Only 3gb showing in XP pro system and task
>>>> manager performance. 3gb switch set in boot and working for
>>>> applications at 2.701mb. SP2. Latest bios level, server MB supports
>>>> 6gb.
>>>
>>> That's normal. XP has a 4GB address space but programs can only
>>> access 3 GB if the /3GB switch is set.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rock
>>> MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

>
> It did answer the question Windows XP can see 4 GB of memory space.
> Unfortunately it cannot use 4 GB of RAM. Some of the address space is
> reserved for other purposes. If you hunt around you can find tweaks to get
> around 3.25 GB. Any more you'll have to get the 64 bit version.
>
> Kerry
>
>

This is not exactly the case. The remaining 1 or 2 GB are used to map the
OS into the user space. So, in fact the extra space is far from unused.
Jim


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:33 AM
Richard Urban
 
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"Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:0Jkuf.5804$UF3.2938@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
>
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:%23TRuvz$DGHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> troy wrote:
>>> Sorry, did not answer the question. XP sees only 3gb with 4 gb
>>> installed.
>>>
>>> "Rock" wrote:
>>>
>>>> troy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Checked KB and this forum, nothing useful. 4gb in 4 sticks working
>>>>> on startup and memory check. All sticks checked ok and all swap
>>>>> configurations done. Only 3gb showing in XP pro system and task
>>>>> manager performance. 3gb switch set in boot and working for
>>>>> applications at 2.701mb. SP2. Latest bios level, server MB supports
>>>>> 6gb.
>>>>
>>>> That's normal. XP has a 4GB address space but programs can only
>>>> access 3 GB if the /3GB switch is set.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rock
>>>> MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

>>
>> It did answer the question Windows XP can see 4 GB of memory space.
>> Unfortunately it cannot use 4 GB of RAM. Some of the address space is
>> reserved for other purposes. If you hunt around you can find tweaks to
>> get around 3.25 GB. Any more you'll have to get the 64 bit version.
>>
>> Kerry
>>
>>

> This is not exactly the case. The remaining 1 or 2 GB are used to map the
> OS into the user space. So, in fact the extra space is far from unused.
> Jim



That sure sounds like "reserved for other purposes" to me!


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:33 AM
Tim Slattery
 
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Default Re: 4gb RAM installed and working showing 3gb useable on XP

"troy" <troy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Checked KB and this forum, nothing useful. 4gb in 4 sticks working on startup
>and memory check. All sticks checked ok and all swap configurations done.
>Only 3gb showing in XP pro system and task manager performance. 3gb switch
>set in boot and working for applications at 2.701mb. SP2. Latest bios level,
>server MB supports 6gb.



Check this article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;888137

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Slattery_T@bls.gov
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Old 01-05-2006, 02:33 AM
troy
 
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Default Re: 4gb RAM installed and working showing 3gb useable on XP

Thank you, the article was helpful although it pushed my expertise. I seems
like SP2 is causing the low reading. It was not clear if the memory is being
used and not reported by sys properties or just ignored. The condition of
4gb or more was met but /pae was not. We have SP2 but not /pae in boot.ini.
We do not understand why with 2gb, 2gb is reported. With 4gb, 3gb is
reported, although it may be that some drivers act differently with 4gb and
SP2 changes the reporting to avoid a compatibility issue. Since we are not
running PAE, I am not sure why we have the problem.

"Tim Slattery" wrote:

> "troy" <troy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >Checked KB and this forum, nothing useful. 4gb in 4 sticks working on startup
> >and memory check. All sticks checked ok and all swap configurations done.
> >Only 3gb showing in XP pro system and task manager performance. 3gb switch
> >set in boot and working for applications at 2.701mb. SP2. Latest bios level,
> >server MB supports 6gb.

>
>
> Check this article:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;888137
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> MS MVP(DTS)
> Slattery_T@bls.gov
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:33 AM
Mak
 
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Default Re: 4gb RAM installed and working showing 3gb useable on XP

read this too: http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.ph...4&page=1&pp=30


"troy" <troy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2549C0EB-C36B-4318-A38E-029AAE9A176F@microsoft.com...
> Thank you, the article was helpful although it pushed my expertise. I
> seems
> like SP2 is causing the low reading. It was not clear if the memory is
> being
> used and not reported by sys properties or just ignored. The condition of
> 4gb or more was met but /pae was not. We have SP2 but not /pae in
> boot.ini.
> We do not understand why with 2gb, 2gb is reported. With 4gb, 3gb is
> reported, although it may be that some drivers act differently with 4gb
> and
> SP2 changes the reporting to avoid a compatibility issue. Since we are not
> running PAE, I am not sure why we have the problem.
>
> "Tim Slattery" wrote:
>
>> "troy" <troy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Checked KB and this forum, nothing useful. 4gb in 4 sticks working on
>> >startup
>> >and memory check. All sticks checked ok and all swap configurations
>> >done.
>> >Only 3gb showing in XP pro system and task manager performance. 3gb
>> >switch
>> >set in boot and working for applications at 2.701mb. SP2. Latest bios
>> >level,
>> >server MB supports 6gb.

>>
>>
>> Check this article:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;888137
>>
>> --
>> Tim Slattery
>> MS MVP(DTS)
>> Slattery_T@bls.gov
>>



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