What is Hyperterminal for?

When I was using Millennium Edition, Hyperterminal was an optional
installation and I never put it on the hard drive. Now, in XP, I see
that it's installed by default and there's no way to remove it easily.
Can anybody tell me why this is so? Especially in light of this page:

http://www.trendmicro.com.au/consume...VAdvisories=24

From what I've read, it's necessary for a "Telnet session", whatever
that is, and I don't remember every doing one. Seems to me that it's
just another hole for a hacker to crawl in through. Is it going to hurt
anything to remove Hyperterminal?

TIA

--
Regards from John Corliss

"John Corliss" <jcorliss@fake.invalid> wrote in message
news:11rco57tjnh5j9a@corp.supernews.com...
> When I was using Millennium Edition, Hyperterminal was an optional
> installation and I never put it on the hard drive. Now, in XP, I see
> that it's installed by default and there's no way to remove it easily.
> Can anybody tell me why this is so? Especially in light of this page:
>
>
http://www.trendmicro.com.au/consume...VAdvisories=24
>
> From what I've read, it's necessary for a "Telnet session", whatever
> that is, and I don't remember every doing one. Seems to me that it's
> just another hole for a hacker to crawl in through. Is it going to hurt
> anything to remove Hyperterminal?
>
> TIA
>
> --
> Regards from John Corliss

Hyperterminal is not active unless you activate it by clicking
its shortcut, so it is of no danger to you. Don't worry about it!

Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>
>> When I was using Millennium Edition, Hyperterminal was an optional
>> installation and I never put it on the hard drive. Now, in XP, I see
>> that it's installed by default and there's no way to remove it easily.
>> Can anybody tell me why this is so? Especially in light of this page:
>
> http://www.trendmicro.com.au/consume...VAdvisories=24
>
>> From what I've read, it's necessary for a "Telnet session", whatever
>> that is, and I don't remember every doing one. Seems to me that it's
>> just another hole for a hacker to crawl in through. Is it going to hurt
>> anything to remove Hyperterminal?
>
> Hyperterminal is not active unless you activate it by clicking
> its shortcut, so it is of no danger to you. Don't worry about it!

Thanks, but what do I need it installed for? Can you tell me what other
programs depend on it being installed or what use I would ever have for
it? I don't even have a fax/modem in my box because I connect via cable.

I tend to be a minimalist when it comes to installed stuff. For
instance, I intent to totally remove Windows Messenger.

--
Regards from John Corliss

"John Corliss" <jcorliss@fake.invalid> wrote in message
news:11rcq282p3b00c6@corp.supernews.com...
> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
>> John Corliss wrote:
>>
>>> When I was using Millennium Edition, Hyperterminal was an optional
>>> installation and I never put it on the hard drive. Now, in XP, I see
>>> that it's installed by default and there's no way to remove it easily.
>>> Can anybody tell me why this is so? Especially in light of this page:
>>
>> http://www.trendmicro.com.au/consume...VAdvisories=24
>>
>>> From what I've read, it's necessary for a "Telnet session", whatever
>>> that is, and I don't remember every doing one. Seems to me that it's
>>> just another hole for a hacker to crawl in through. Is it going to hurt
>>> anything to remove Hyperterminal?
>>
>> Hyperterminal is not active unless you activate it by clicking
>> its shortcut, so it is of no danger to you. Don't worry about it!
>
> Thanks, but what do I need it installed for? Can you tell me what other
> programs depend on it being installed or what use I would ever have for
> it? I don't even have a fax/modem in my box because I connect via cable.
>
> I tend to be a minimalist when it comes to installed stuff. For instance,
> I intent to totally remove Windows Messenger.
>
> --
> Regards from John Corliss

If you're intent on uninstalling as many Windows components as possible then
you may be interested in XPLite:
http://www.litepc.com/xplite.html

Gives you access to install or uninstall MANY of the Windows components that
you don't usually get a chance to.
A feature limited trial is available which doesn't give access to as many
components as the full (paid for) version.

Martin.

"John Corliss" <jcorliss@fake.invalid> wrote in message
news:11rcq282p3b00c6@corp.supernews.com...
> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> > John Corliss wrote:
> >
> >> When I was using Millennium Edition, Hyperterminal was an optional
> >> installation and I never put it on the hard drive. Now, in XP, I see
> >> that it's installed by default and there's no way to remove it easily.
> >> Can anybody tell me why this is so? Especially in light of this page:
> >
> >
http://www.trendmicro.com.au/consume...VAdvisories=24
> >
> >> From what I've read, it's necessary for a "Telnet session", whatever
> >> that is, and I don't remember every doing one. Seems to me that it's
> >> just another hole for a hacker to crawl in through. Is it going to hurt
> >> anything to remove Hyperterminal?
> >
> > Hyperterminal is not active unless you activate it by clicking
> > its shortcut, so it is of no danger to you. Don't worry about it!
>
> Thanks, but what do I need it installed for? Can you tell me what other
> programs depend on it being installed or what use I would ever have for
> it? I don't even have a fax/modem in my box because I connect via cable.
>
> I tend to be a minimalist when it comes to installed stuff. For
> instance, I intent to totally remove Windows Messenger.
>
> --
> Regards from John Corliss

AFAI, hyperterminal is a stand-alone program with no
dependencies. It uses 1/1000 of what's in the system32
folder, so deleting it is equivalent to shaving one dollar
off the price of a $1000 laptop. You'll have to do a lot
of shaving to make an impact!

Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I was using Millennium Edition, Hyperterminal was an optional
>>>> installation and I never put it on the hard drive. Now, in XP, I see
>>>> that it's installed by default and there's no way to remove it easily.
>>>> Can anybody tell me why this is so? Especially in light of this page:
>>>
> http://www.trendmicro.com.au/consume...VAdvisories=24
>
>>>> From what I've read, it's necessary for a "Telnet session", whatever
>>>> that is, and I don't remember every doing one. Seems to me that it's
>>>> just another hole for a hacker to crawl in through. Is it going to hurt
>>>> anything to remove Hyperterminal?
>>>
>>> Hyperterminal is not active unless you activate it by clicking
>>> its shortcut, so it is of no danger to you. Don't worry about it!
>>
>> Thanks, but what do I need it installed for? Can you tell me what other
>> programs depend on it being installed or what use I would ever have for
>> it? I don't even have a fax/modem in my box because I connect via cable.
>>
>> I tend to be a minimalist when it comes to installed stuff. For
>> instance, I intent to totally remove Windows Messenger.
>
> AFAI, hyperterminal is a stand-alone program with no
> dependencies. It uses 1/1000 of what's in the system32
> folder, so deleting it is equivalent to shaving one dollar
> off the price of a $1000 laptop. You'll have to do a lot
> of shaving to make an impact!

Well, then so be it. I just don't like having programs on my computer
that I can't easily uninstall, and for which there seems to be no
purpose. This smacks to me of some kind of "loaded agenda" type deal.

For instance, why ...if I'm not on any kind of LAN... should I have
NetBIOS, File and Printer Sharing, Client for MS Networks, etc. etc.
etc. installed by default? Why isn't all of this stuff offered as
options during Windows setup?

I just don't like letting my soft underbelly show any more than is
necessary.

--
Regards from John Corliss

John Corliss wrote:
> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
>> John Corliss wrote:
>>> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
>>>> John Corliss wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When I was using Millennium Edition, Hyperterminal was an optional
>>>>> installation and I never put it on the hard drive. Now, in XP, I
>>>>> see that it's installed by default and there's no way to remove
>>>>> it easily. Can anybody tell me why this is so? Especially in
>>>>> light of this page:
>>>>
>> http://www.trendmicro.com.au/consume...VAdvisories=24
>>
>>>>> From what I've read, it's necessary for a "Telnet session",
>>>>> whatever that is, and I don't remember every doing one. Seems to
>>>>> me that it's just another hole for a hacker to crawl in through.
>>>>> Is it going to hurt anything to remove Hyperterminal?
>>>>
>>>> Hyperterminal is not active unless you activate it by clicking
>>>> its shortcut, so it is of no danger to you. Don't worry about it!
>>>
>>> Thanks, but what do I need it installed for? Can you tell me what
>>> other programs depend on it being installed or what use I would
>>> ever have for it? I don't even have a fax/modem in my box because I
>>> connect via cable. I tend to be a minimalist when it comes to installed
>>> stuff. For
>>> instance, I intent to totally remove Windows Messenger.
>>
>> AFAI, hyperterminal is a stand-alone program with no
>> dependencies. It uses 1/1000 of what's in the system32
>> folder, so deleting it is equivalent to shaving one dollar
>> off the price of a $1000 laptop. You'll have to do a lot
>> of shaving to make an impact!
>
> Well, then so be it. I just don't like having programs on my computer
> that I can't easily uninstall, and for which there seems to be no
> purpose. This smacks to me of some kind of "loaded agenda" type deal.
>
> For instance, why ...if I'm not on any kind of LAN... should I have
> NetBIOS, File and Printer Sharing, Client for MS Networks, etc. etc.
> etc. installed by default? Why isn't all of this stuff offered as
> options during Windows setup?
>
> I just don't like letting my soft underbelly show any more than is
> necessary.

Windows is a tool/toy box that is full. Would you like to get one that is
empty then have to fill it any more than you already have to?

John Corliss wrote:

>
> Well, then so be it. I just don't like having programs on my computer
> that I can't easily uninstall, and for which there seems to be no
> purpose. This smacks to me of some kind of "loaded agenda" type deal.
>
> For instance, why ...if I'm not on any kind of LAN... should I have
> NetBIOS, File and Printer Sharing, Client for MS Networks, etc. etc.
> etc. installed by default? Why isn't all of this stuff offered as
> options during Windows setup?
>
> I just don't like letting my soft underbelly show any more than is
> necessary.
>

To find out what something like Hyperterminal is, use Google. Here's a
link to the company's website:

http://www.hilgraeve.com/htpe/

A less-powerful version of Hyperterminal is installed with Windows. It
can be very useful when troubleshooting dialup modem issues. If you
don't want it, uninstall it.

To find out what other things are - like NetBIOS - use Google. For ex.:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

If you want to control nearly every aspect of an operating system:

http://www.freeos.com/
http://distrowatch.com/

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

"John Corliss" <jcorliss@fake.invalid> wrote in message
news:11rcvpma3k6bh2d@corp.supernews.com...
> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> > John Corliss wrote:
> >> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> >>> John Corliss wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> When I was using Millennium Edition, Hyperterminal was an optional
> >>>> installation and I never put it on the hard drive. Now, in XP, I see
> >>>> that it's installed by default and there's no way to remove it
easily.
> >>>> Can anybody tell me why this is so? Especially in light of this page:
> >>>
> >
http://www.trendmicro.com.au/consume...VAdvisories=24
> >
> >>>> From what I've read, it's necessary for a "Telnet session", whatever
> >>>> that is, and I don't remember every doing one. Seems to me that it's
> >>>> just another hole for a hacker to crawl in through. Is it going to
hurt
> >>>> anything to remove Hyperterminal?
> >>>
> >>> Hyperterminal is not active unless you activate it by clicking
> >>> its shortcut, so it is of no danger to you. Don't worry about it!
> >>
> >> Thanks, but what do I need it installed for? Can you tell me what other
> >> programs depend on it being installed or what use I would ever have for
> >> it? I don't even have a fax/modem in my box because I connect via
cable.
> >>
> >> I tend to be a minimalist when it comes to installed stuff. For
> >> instance, I intent to totally remove Windows Messenger.
> >
> > AFAI, hyperterminal is a stand-alone program with no
> > dependencies. It uses 1/1000 of what's in the system32
> > folder, so deleting it is equivalent to shaving one dollar
> > off the price of a $1000 laptop. You'll have to do a lot
> > of shaving to make an impact!
>
> Well, then so be it. I just don't like having programs on my computer
> that I can't easily uninstall, and for which there seems to be no
> purpose. This smacks to me of some kind of "loaded agenda" type deal.
>
> For instance, why ...if I'm not on any kind of LAN... should I have
> NetBIOS, File and Printer Sharing, Client for MS Networks, etc. etc.
> etc. installed by default? Why isn't all of this stuff offered as
> options during Windows setup?
>
> I just don't like letting my soft underbelly show any more than is
> necessary.
>
> --
> Regards from John Corliss

Because many people need the above listed and it makes for a much more
seamless installation for the majority of the people using the product and
the overhead is minimal and easily uninstalled for the ones that can be
uninstalled.
It's the same with any OS today, even Linux distros that try to be user
friendly install things that not everyone needs. MAC is the same. Someone
buying a laptop for the first time really appreciates how easy it is to
login to a wireless network today as compared to a couple of years ago. Take
out the LAN capability and the ease is gone.
It makes more sense to include them for the people that need them than to
not for the few that are overly minimalist and a minority of the install
base.

Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
xpnews@bogusmichaelstevenstech.com
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com
For a better newsgroup experience. Setup a newsreader.
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Michael Stevens wrote:
> "John Corliss" <jcorliss@fake.invalid> wrote in message
> news:11rcvpma3k6bh2d@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
>>
>>>John Corliss wrote:
>>>
>>>>Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>John Corliss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>When I was using Millennium Edition, Hyperterminal was an optional
>>>>>>installation and I never put it on the hard drive. Now, in XP, I see
>>>>>>that it's installed by default and there's no way to remove it
>
> easily.
>
>>>>>>Can anybody tell me why this is so? Especially in light of this page:
>>>>>
> http://www.trendmicro.com.au/consume...VAdvisories=24
>
>>>>>>From what I've read, it's necessary for a "Telnet session", whatever
>>>>>>that is, and I don't remember every doing one. Seems to me that it's
>>>>>>just another hole for a hacker to crawl in through. Is it going to
>
> hurt
>
>>>>>>anything to remove Hyperterminal?
>>>>>
>>>>>Hyperterminal is not active unless you activate it by clicking
>>>>>its shortcut, so it is of no danger to you. Don't worry about it!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks, but what do I need it installed for? Can you tell me what other
>>>>programs depend on it being installed or what use I would ever have for
>>>>it? I don't even have a fax/modem in my box because I connect via
>
> cable.
>
>>>>I tend to be a minimalist when it comes to installed stuff. For
>>>>instance, I intent to totally remove Windows Messenger.
>>>
>>>AFAI, hyperterminal is a stand-alone program with no
>>>dependencies. It uses 1/1000 of what's in the system32
>>>folder, so deleting it is equivalent to shaving one dollar
>>>off the price of a $1000 laptop. You'll have to do a lot
>>>of shaving to make an impact!
>>
>>Well, then so be it. I just don't like having programs on my computer
>>that I can't easily uninstall, and for which there seems to be no
>>purpose. This smacks to me of some kind of "loaded agenda" type deal.
>>
>>For instance, why ...if I'm not on any kind of LAN... should I have
>>NetBIOS, File and Printer Sharing, Client for MS Networks, etc. etc.
>>etc. installed by default? Why isn't all of this stuff offered as
>>options during Windows setup?
>>
>>I just don't like letting my soft underbelly show any more than is
>>necessary.
>
> Because many people need the above listed and it makes for a much more
> seamless installation for the majority of the people using the product and
> the overhead is minimal and easily uninstalled for the ones that can be
> uninstalled.
> It's the same with any OS today, even Linux distros that try to be user
> friendly install things that not everyone needs. MAC is the same. Someone
> buying a laptop for the first time really appreciates how easy it is to
> login to a wireless network today as compared to a couple of years ago. Take
> out the LAN capability and the ease is gone.
> It makes more sense to include them for the people that need them than to
> not for the few that are overly minimalist and a minority of the install
> base.

All right then, Michael, why then is Hyperterminal not listed in the
Add/Remove Programs Control Panel module? Why should it not be possible
to easily remove it if it's unneeded?

--
Regards from John "just curious" Corliss