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Old 01-05-2006, 02:35 AM
a
 
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Default Re: WinXP dual boot with w2k server

Single harddisk, 2 partitions.
Thanks

"Steve N." <me@here.now>
???????EOuf.762$WY5.710@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
> a wrote:
>
> > I have set the BIOS to boot from CDROM as the first priority.
> > I expect the system will prompt me to press any key to boot from CDROM,

but
> > it doesnt.
> > It just go straight to boot the XP.
> > What should I do to correct it?
> > Thanks

>
> Is this a system with two physical hard disks or a single hard disk with
> two partitions?
>
> Steve N.
>
> >
> > "Steve N." <me@here.now>
> > ???????:jtGuf.5639$nu6.1665@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
> >
> >>Trax wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> "a" <a@mail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>|>I have a concern here.
> >>>|>The boot sector of XP in C: originally is replaced by the boot sector

> >
> > of W2K
> >
> >>>|>server.
> >>>|>Will this be a problem?
> >>>
> >>>Both will write to the MBR, if there is a problem replacing a back'd
> >>>up copy of the MBR is just quicker if a problem is encounter'd.
> >>
> >>If they are two physical drives the 2K install shouldn't touch the MBR
> >>of the 1st drive when installing to the second disk, but it will
> >>overwrite ntldr, ntdetect.com and boot.ini on C: with its version of
> >>them. That's why the best way to create dual boot XP & 2K is to install
> >>2K first, then XP. Still, I agree that backing up the MBR is not a bad
> >>move anyway. I've used a simple program named boot.com for this, but
> >>it's difficult to find on the net anymore. Even if drive C: and D: are
> >>two partitions on the same physical drive the MBR is generic for all
> >>Windows versions since W98, so it shouldn't really matter. What does
> >>matter is ntldr, boot.ini and ntdtecet.com. In the end you want the XP
> >>versions of these files on C:, however that is accomplished.
> >>
> >>Other, non-MS OSes (such as Linux) can install a bootloader to the
> >>actual MBR, but that is not appliable here.
> >>
> >>
> >>>|>There are 2 files involve in this procedure.
> >>>|>NTLDR (Loader) and NTDETECT.COM
> >>>|>what are they and what are the functions of them?
> >>>
> >>>One is called to run from the MBR and the other reads the boot.ini and
> >>>loads windows. Google would explain them better.
> >>
> >>Ntldr is the boot loader, it starts the file system, reads boot.ini then
> >>starts ntdetect.com that does basic hardware and hardware profile
> >>detection. Ntldr then starts ntoskrnl.exe and provides it with
> >>information obtained from Ntdetect.com.
> >>
> >>Steve N.
> >>
> >>
> >>>|>"Trax" <Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov>
> >>>|>???????:v4elr1di6prtpufsc7vb871o8b0ronsett@4a x.com...
> >>>|>> "a" <a@mail.com> wrote:
> >>>|>>
> >>>|>> |>I would like to install w2k server on my WinXP installed system.
> >>>|>> |>I come up with a procedure by gooling and I need some

confirmation
> >
> > to
> >
> >>>|>> |>prevent disaster.
> >>>|>> |>Please comment it if I am wrong.
> >>>|>> |>1> backup the NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR (WinXP version) from c:\ to

> >
> > floppy.
> >
> >>>|>> |>2> install W2K server to a D: drive which is NTFS. (created in

> >
> > advance)
> >
> >>>|>> |>3> boot from W2K server
> >>>|>> |>4> overwrite the (W2K version) NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR by the

> >
> > backuped
> >
> >>>|>> |>NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR(WinXP version)
> >>>|>> |>5> modify the boot.ini, append the entry for WinXP.
> >>>|>> |>6> reboot -> then we can have a menu for selecting W2K server or

> >
> > WinXP
> >
> >>>|>> |>
> >>>|>> |>Does the above procedure correct?
> >>>|>> |>Thanks a lot
> >>>|>> |>
> >>>|>>
> >>>|>> Sounds good, the boot.ini should update itself.
> >>>|>>
> >>>|>> Since your using a floppy you might take the extra step of backing

> >
> > up
> >
> >>>|>> the MBR before installing W2K, just incase.
> >>>|>> http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/mbrtool.htm
> >>>|>>
> >>>|>>
> >>>|>>
> >>>|>> --
> >>>|>> Time Wasting Sites on the Net
> >>>|>> http://freebies.about.com/od/710/tp/timewasting.htm
> >>>|>
> >>>|>
> >>>
> >>>

> >
> >
> >

>




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  #12  
Old 01-05-2006, 02:36 AM
Steve N.
 
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Default Re: WinXP dual boot with w2k server

a wrote:

> Single harddisk, 2 partitions.
> Thanks


Ok. That may make a difference, but we really need to figure out why the
Win2K CD won't boot in your box. Will it boot in another machine? Will
an XP CD boot in your machine? Will any bootable CD boot in your
machine? If not have you checked the CDROM drive cabling and jumpering
or substituted another CDROM drive?

Steve N.

>
> "Steve N." <me@here.now>
> ???????EOuf.762$WY5.710@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
>
>>a wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have set the BIOS to boot from CDROM as the first priority.
>>>I expect the system will prompt me to press any key to boot from CDROM,

>
> but
>
>>>it doesnt.
>>>It just go straight to boot the XP.
>>>What should I do to correct it?
>>>Thanks

>>
>>Is this a system with two physical hard disks or a single hard disk with
>>two partitions?
>>
>>Steve N.
>>
>>
>>>"Steve N." <me@here.now>
>>>???????:jtGuf.5639$nu6.1665@newsread1.news.pas. earthlink.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Trax wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"a" <a@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>|>I have a concern here.
>>>>>|>The boot sector of XP in C: originally is replaced by the boot sector
>>>
>>>of W2K
>>>
>>>
>>>>>|>server.
>>>>>|>Will this be a problem?
>>>>>
>>>>>Both will write to the MBR, if there is a problem replacing a back'd
>>>>>up copy of the MBR is just quicker if a problem is encounter'd.
>>>>
>>>>If they are two physical drives the 2K install shouldn't touch the MBR
>>>>of the 1st drive when installing to the second disk, but it will
>>>>overwrite ntldr, ntdetect.com and boot.ini on C: with its version of
>>>>them. That's why the best way to create dual boot XP & 2K is to install
>>>>2K first, then XP. Still, I agree that backing up the MBR is not a bad
>>>>move anyway. I've used a simple program named boot.com for this, but
>>>>it's difficult to find on the net anymore. Even if drive C: and D: are
>>>>two partitions on the same physical drive the MBR is generic for all
>>>>Windows versions since W98, so it shouldn't really matter. What does
>>>>matter is ntldr, boot.ini and ntdtecet.com. In the end you want the XP
>>>>versions of these files on C:, however that is accomplished.
>>>>
>>>>Other, non-MS OSes (such as Linux) can install a bootloader to the
>>>>actual MBR, but that is not appliable here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>|>There are 2 files involve in this procedure.
>>>>>|>NTLDR (Loader) and NTDETECT.COM
>>>>>|>what are they and what are the functions of them?
>>>>>
>>>>>One is called to run from the MBR and the other reads the boot.ini and
>>>>>loads windows. Google would explain them better.
>>>>
>>>>Ntldr is the boot loader, it starts the file system, reads boot.ini then
>>>>starts ntdetect.com that does basic hardware and hardware profile
>>>>detection. Ntldr then starts ntoskrnl.exe and provides it with
>>>>information obtained from Ntdetect.com.
>>>>
>>>>Steve N.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>|>"Trax" <Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov>
>>>>>|>???????:v4elr1di6prtpufsc7vb871o8b0ronsett@ 4ax.com...
>>>>>|>> "a" <a@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>|>>
>>>>>|>> |>I would like to install w2k server on my WinXP installed system.
>>>>>|>> |>I come up with a procedure by gooling and I need some

>
> confirmation
>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>|>> |>prevent disaster.
>>>>>|>> |>Please comment it if I am wrong.
>>>>>|>> |>1> backup the NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR (WinXP version) from c:\ to
>>>
>>>floppy.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>|>> |>2> install W2K server to a D: drive which is NTFS. (created in
>>>
>>>advance)
>>>
>>>
>>>>>|>> |>3> boot from W2K server
>>>>>|>> |>4> overwrite the (W2K version) NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR by the
>>>
>>>backuped
>>>
>>>
>>>>>|>> |>NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR(WinXP version)
>>>>>|>> |>5> modify the boot.ini, append the entry for WinXP.
>>>>>|>> |>6> reboot -> then we can have a menu for selecting W2K server or
>>>
>>>WinXP
>>>
>>>
>>>>>|>> |>
>>>>>|>> |>Does the above procedure correct?
>>>>>|>> |>Thanks a lot
>>>>>|>> |>
>>>>>|>>
>>>>>|>> Sounds good, the boot.ini should update itself.
>>>>>|>>
>>>>>|>> Since your using a floppy you might take the extra step of backing
>>>
>>>up
>>>
>>>
>>>>>|>> the MBR before installing W2K, just incase.
>>>>>|>> http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/mbrtool.htm
>>>>>|>>
>>>>>|>>
>>>>>|>>
>>>>>|>> --
>>>>>|>> Time Wasting Sites on the Net
>>>>>|>> http://freebies.about.com/od/710/tp/timewasting.htm
>>>>>|>
>>>>>|>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>

>
>
>


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  #13  
Old 01-05-2006, 03:50 PM
Steve N.
 
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Default Re: WinXP dual boot with w2k server

Steve N. wrote:
> a wrote:
>
>> Single harddisk, 2 partitions.
>> Thanks

>
>
> Ok. That may make a difference, but we really need to figure out why the
> Win2K CD won't boot in your box. Will it boot in another machine? Will
> an XP CD boot in your machine? Will any bootable CD boot in your
> machine? If not have you checked the CDROM drive cabling and jumpering
> or substituted another CDROM drive?
>
> Steve N.


As a test last night I installed Win2K on the second partition of a disk
with WinXP already on the first partition. Backing up and copying back
the WinXP ntldr, netdetect.com and boot.ini files was all that was
necessary. Otherwise it was a piece of cake.

I am certain that there is something wrong with your CDROM drive or your
Win2K CD if it won't boot.

Steve N.

>
>>
>> "Steve N." <me@here.now>
>> ???????EOuf.762$WY5.710@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
>>
>>> a wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have set the BIOS to boot from CDROM as the first priority.
>>>> I expect the system will prompt me to press any key to boot from CDROM,

>>
>>
>> but
>>
>>>> it doesnt.
>>>> It just go straight to boot the XP.
>>>> What should I do to correct it?
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this a system with two physical hard disks or a single hard disk with
>>> two partitions?
>>>
>>> Steve N.
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Steve N." <me@here.now>
>>>> ???????:jtGuf.5639$nu6.1665@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Trax wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "a" <a@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> |>I have a concern here.
>>>>>> |>The boot sector of XP in C: originally is replaced by the boot
>>>>>> sector
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> of W2K
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> |>server.
>>>>>> |>Will this be a problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both will write to the MBR, if there is a problem replacing a back'd
>>>>>> up copy of the MBR is just quicker if a problem is encounter'd.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If they are two physical drives the 2K install shouldn't touch the MBR
>>>>> of the 1st drive when installing to the second disk, but it will
>>>>> overwrite ntldr, ntdetect.com and boot.ini on C: with its version of
>>>>> them. That's why the best way to create dual boot XP & 2K is to
>>>>> install
>>>>> 2K first, then XP. Still, I agree that backing up the MBR is not a bad
>>>>> move anyway. I've used a simple program named boot.com for this, but
>>>>> it's difficult to find on the net anymore. Even if drive C: and D: are
>>>>> two partitions on the same physical drive the MBR is generic for all
>>>>> Windows versions since W98, so it shouldn't really matter. What does
>>>>> matter is ntldr, boot.ini and ntdtecet.com. In the end you want the XP
>>>>> versions of these files on C:, however that is accomplished.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other, non-MS OSes (such as Linux) can install a bootloader to the
>>>>> actual MBR, but that is not appliable here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> |>There are 2 files involve in this procedure.
>>>>>> |>NTLDR (Loader) and NTDETECT.COM
>>>>>> |>what are they and what are the functions of them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One is called to run from the MBR and the other reads the boot.ini
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> loads windows. Google would explain them better.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ntldr is the boot loader, it starts the file system, reads boot.ini
>>>>> then
>>>>> starts ntdetect.com that does basic hardware and hardware profile
>>>>> detection. Ntldr then starts ntoskrnl.exe and provides it with
>>>>> information obtained from Ntdetect.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve N.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> |>"Trax" <Pennywise@DerryMaine.Gov>
>>>>>> |>???????:v4elr1di6prtpufsc7vb871o8b0ronsett@4ax.c om...
>>>>>> |>> "a" <a@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> |>>
>>>>>> |>> |>I would like to install w2k server on my WinXP installed
>>>>>> system.
>>>>>> |>> |>I come up with a procedure by gooling and I need some

>>
>>
>> confirmation
>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> |>> |>prevent disaster.
>>>>>> |>> |>Please comment it if I am wrong.
>>>>>> |>> |>1> backup the NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR (WinXP version) from
>>>>>> c:\ to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> floppy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> |>> |>2> install W2K server to a D: drive which is NTFS. (created in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> advance)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> |>> |>3> boot from W2K server
>>>>>> |>> |>4> overwrite the (W2K version) NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR by the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> backuped
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> |>> |>NTDETECT.COM and NTLDR(WinXP version)
>>>>>> |>> |>5> modify the boot.ini, append the entry for WinXP.
>>>>>> |>> |>6> reboot -> then we can have a menu for selecting W2K
>>>>>> server or
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WinXP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> |>> |>
>>>>>> |>> |>Does the above procedure correct?
>>>>>> |>> |>Thanks a lot
>>>>>> |>> |>
>>>>>> |>>
>>>>>> |>> Sounds good, the boot.ini should update itself.
>>>>>> |>>
>>>>>> |>> Since your using a floppy you might take the extra step of
>>>>>> backing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> up
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> |>> the MBR before installing W2K, just incase.
>>>>>> |>> http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/mbrtool.htm
>>>>>> |>>
>>>>>> |>>
>>>>>> |>>
>>>>>> |>> -- |>> Time Wasting Sites on the Net
>>>>>> |>> http://freebies.about.com/od/710/tp/timewasting.htm
>>>>>> |>
>>>>>> |>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

>>
>>
>>

>


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