"Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> Doug Kanter wrote:
>
>> I asked because most software does not release the memory it uses after
>> you
>> shut it down. Little by little, as the day goes on, you end up with less
>> memory ("resources") available.
>
> Not the cause. I dunno what is, but that is definitely not the cause.
>
> I have a six-year old home-built with only 256mb of RAM that is on 24x7
> and I've NEVER had that problem. NEVER. And I open and close programs
> repeatedly over the course of a week or two (between reboots).
>

I figured it was too simple, but I still had to ask.

Doesn't Windows Messenger also use msimn.exe? If yes, perhaps Heather should
make sure WM is not set up to start automatically with Windows, which I
believe is the default.

It is also wrong. All programs release all memory when they shut down, they have no choice about it.

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"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:NXPuf.1120$qg.692@news02.roc.ny...
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> "Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:1136327087.336246.198710@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
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>> Doug Kanter wrote:
>>
>>> I asked because most software does not release the memory it uses after
>>> you
>>> shut it down. Little by little, as the day goes on, you end up with less
>>> memory ("resources") available.
>>
>> Not the cause. I dunno what is, but that is definitely not the cause.
>>
>> I have a six-year old home-built with only 256mb of RAM that is on 24x7
>> and I've NEVER had that problem. NEVER. And I open and close programs
>> repeatedly over the course of a week or two (between reboots).
>>
>
> I figured it was too simple, but I still had to ask.
>
>

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
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It is also wrong. All programs release all memory when they shut down, they
have no choice about it.


So, test results we've seen over the years, which show otherwise (to varying
degrees with different software) have all been wrong, or worse, outright
lies???

You're insane.

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"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:cyQuf.2720$OU3.1887@news01.roc.ny...
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> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
> news:e7EvXLTEGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> It is also wrong. All programs release all memory when they shut down, they
> have no choice about it.
>
>
> So, test results we've seen over the years, which show otherwise (to varying
> degrees with different software) have all been wrong, or worse, outright
> lies???
>
>

Jeez...can't you even troll with any skill? :-)

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
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You're insane.

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"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
> news:e7EvXLTEGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> It is also wrong. All programs release all memory when they shut down,
> they
> have no choice about it.
>
>
> So, test results we've seen over the years, which show otherwise (to
> varying
> degrees with different software) have all been wrong, or worse, outright
> lies???
>
>

Why waste time on someone talking about something they no nothing about and without the intellectual firepower to understand simple logic. Prove your assertion. Show me some memory that is being held by an application that has terminated.

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"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:QXQuf.2723$OU3.1506@news01.roc.ny...
> Jeez...can't you even troll with any skill? :-)
>
> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
> news:umeFknTEGHA.3984@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> You're insane.
>
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> "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cyQuf.2720$OU3.1887@news01.roc.ny...
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>> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
>> news:e7EvXLTEGHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> It is also wrong. All programs release all memory when they shut down,
>> they
>> have no choice about it.
>>
>>
>> So, test results we've seen over the years, which show otherwise (to
>> varying
>> degrees with different software) have all been wrong, or worse, outright
>> lies???
>>
>>
>
>

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
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Why waste time on someone talking about something they no nothing about and
without the intellectual firepower to understand simple logic. Prove your
assertion. Show me some memory that is being held by an application that has
terminated.
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

Let's take this a step at a time, just so I know what I'm dealing with here.

1) Are you a programmer?

2) If you are a programmer, are you saying you've never heard of this
phenomenon?

3) If you are NOT a programmer, what special knowledge (or secret
information) do you think you have, which enables you to doubt a phenomenon
which has been discussed ad nauseum in the computer press for many years?

1. Yes but is not relevent at all.
2. That is correct.
3. Idiots discussing something doesn't make it true. If you are merely saying there is less free memory after starting and then exiting a program then this does not prove your comment. Why would you assume that the application has the memory? How can it have the memory - it no longer exists.

Where is this memory? If you can't point to it you only have an unproven hypothsis. What mechanism causes this memory not to be freed?
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"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:2kRuf.2725$OU3.1394@news01.roc.ny...
> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
> news:OwptuwTEGHA.268@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Why waste time on someone talking about something they no nothing about and
> without the intellectual firepower to understand simple logic. Prove your
> assertion. Show me some memory that is being held by an application that has
> terminated.
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>
> Let's take this a step at a time, just so I know what I'm dealing with here.
>
> 1) Are you a programmer?
>
> 2) If you are a programmer, are you saying you've never heard of this
> phenomenon?
>
> 3) If you are NOT a programmer, what special knowledge (or secret
> information) do you think you have, which enables you to doubt a phenomenon
> which has been discussed ad nauseum in the computer press for many years?
>
>

What a load of crap. It's not possible. That page you sent is blank.

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"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:t5Suf.1128$qg.13@news02.roc.ny...
> "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2kRuf.2725$OU3.1394@news01.roc.ny...
>> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
>> news:OwptuwTEGHA.268@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Why waste time on someone talking about something they no nothing about
>> and
>> without the intellectual firepower to understand simple logic. Prove your
>> assertion. Show me some memory that is being held by an application that
>> has
>> terminated.
>> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>>
>> Let's take this a step at a time, just so I know what I'm dealing with
>> here.
>>
>> 1) Are you a programmer?
>>
>> 2) If you are a programmer, are you saying you've never heard of this
>> phenomenon?
>>
>> 3) If you are NOT a programmer, what special knowledge (or secret
>> information) do you think you have, which enables you to doubt a
>> phenomenon
>> which has been discussed ad nauseum in the computer press for many years?
>>
>>
>
> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
> news:e7Tc6LUEGHA.3468@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> 1. Yes but is not relevent at all.
> 2. That is correct.
> 3. Idiots discussing something doesn't make it true. If you are merely
> saying there is less free memory after starting and then exiting a program
> then this does not prove your comment. Why would you assume that the
> application has the memory? How can it have the memory - it no longer
> exists.
>
> Where is this memory? If you can't point to it you only have an unproven
> hypothsis. What mechanism causes this memory not to be freed?
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>
> Based on your responses thus far, it's clear that you are young and
> inexperienced. You also missed an entire chapter in your computer science
> curriculum, and you're bitter & defensive about things you've never heard
> of. That's too bad, since it's your responsibility as an adult to continue
> your education every single day. How is it that your professors never taught
> you about one of the most basic "gotchas" in programming? This is like a
> doctor knowing nothing about tetanus shots.
>
> Google is your friend. Here's a sample:
>
> http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-3513_11-5533338.html
> VB6 Tip: Best practices requires that you ensure all forms unload
>
> "When a Visual Basic 6 program ends, all of its forms should be unloaded and
> removed from memory. VB doesn't do this automatically; therefore, if your
> program contains a lot of forms, it's possible for one or more forms to
> remain in memory even after the program terminates."
>
>