Heather

It sounds like you are stopping automatic compaction when you close
Outlook Express. Unfortunately this is one way to cause corruption of
folders.dbx. You have to allow it complete.

Automatic compaction is instigated by the system after Outlook Express
has closed 100 times. Allowing compaction to complete resets the
counter, whereas if compaction is stopped the counter is not reset.

It is a stupid idea introduced by Microsoft to encourage compaction.
It was intended to replace another silly idea -Compact messages in
background.

Many Outlook Express users are frustrated by this feature.

http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#auto


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"Heather Westrick" <HeatherWestrick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:0B123ECB-A6E4-4251-B3B9-B71ACA9FEA00@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Gerry. I followed both options you suggested, neither solved the
> problem. I still have to end process on msimn.exe after one or two
> starts/shut downs.
>
> "Gerry Cornell" wrote:
>
>> Heather
>>
>> It sounds like corruption of folders.dbx.
>>
>> Try placing the cursor on Outlook Express in the Folder List, select
>> File,
>> Work Offline followed by File, Folder, Compact All. Then reboot and test
>> to see whether the problem is cured.
>>
>> If the problem is still there you will need to delete folders.dbx, which
>> will
>> lose your folder structure but should eliminate the problem.
>>
>> Using Windows XP you need to enable show hidden files. Start, Control
>> Panel, Folder Options, View, Advanced Settings. Next enter Windows
>> Explorer. Using Tools, Find, Files and Folders search your C drive with
>> "folder*.dbx" without quotes as the search criteria and delete
>> folders.dbx.
>>
>> http://www.insideoe.com/problems/performance.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>>
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Heather Westrick" <HeatherWestrick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:E72A643F-C999-4DBF-A93E-D75DEA147802@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks, Uncle Grumpy. I don't have this problem with any other
>> > software
>> > either. It's unbelieveably frustrating.
>> >
>> > "Uncle Grumpy" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Doug Kanter wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I asked because most software does not release the memory it uses
>> >> > after
>> >> > you
>> >> > shut it down. Little by little, as the day goes on, you end up with
>> >> > less
>> >> > memory ("resources") available.
>> >>
>> >> Not the cause. I dunno what is, but that is definitely not the cause.
>> >>
>> >> I have a six-year old home-built with only 256mb of RAM that is on
>> >> 24x7
>> >> and I've NEVER had that problem. NEVER. And I open and close
>> >> programs
>> >> repeatedly over the course of a week or two (between reboots).
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Bill

The David Candy here looks like an impersonator not the real one.

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"bill" <bill@ibulls.com> wrote in message
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> David Candy you have proved yourself to be a real prick. Congratulations.
>

Why would you say that. I make a point of taking on people who spread untruths. Someone didn't challenge the morons this person listened too and we got an extra moron in the world. If you allow them to get away with spreading untruth it affects other simple minded people. They see the untruths not being challenged and start believing it to be true.

This year is my 10th anniversary of finding the newsgroup (in about a months time). We have had these claims the whole bloody time.
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"Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@tenretnitb.com> wrote in message news:eFvCaiWEGHA.516@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Bill
>
> The David Candy here looks like an impersonator not the real one.
>
> --
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
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> Stourport, England
>
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> "bill" <bill@ibulls.com> wrote in message
> news:dph5qq$pt3$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
>> David Candy you have proved yourself to be a real prick. Congratulations.
>>
>
>

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
news:O57RcoWEGHA.644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Why would you say that. I make a point of taking on people who spread
untruths. Someone didn't challenge the morons this person listened too and
we got an extra moron in the world. If you allow them to get away with
spreading untruth it affects other simple minded people. They see the
untruths not being challenged and start believing it to be true.

This year is my 10th anniversary of finding the newsgroup (in about a months
time). We have had these claims the whole bloody time.
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

I guess the morons you describe must also write for InfoWorld, PC Magazine,
Microsoft Press, Brady Press, and a host of others which publish articles
and books on programming. When these people see evidence of the problem
right in front of them, what do you think they're mistaking it for?

You haven't been able to find any examples. And journalists have no credibility here. They read your dribbles here and report it as fact. After all the idiot jerry pournelle wrote an article in 1995 or 96 on how to edit the registry files direct. He had not ever heard of Regedit. Is this one of your authoritive sources? I can't tell you the last year I read a computer magazine. They are filled with lies masquarading as fact.

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"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:K9Wuf.2759$OU3.1829@news01.roc.ny...
> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
> news:O57RcoWEGHA.644@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Why would you say that. I make a point of taking on people who spread
> untruths. Someone didn't challenge the morons this person listened too and
> we got an extra moron in the world. If you allow them to get away with
> spreading untruth it affects other simple minded people. They see the
> untruths not being challenged and start believing it to be true.
>
> This year is my 10th anniversary of finding the newsgroup (in about a months
> time). We have had these claims the whole bloody time.
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>
> I guess the morons you describe must also write for InfoWorld, PC Magazine,
> Microsoft Press, Brady Press, and a host of others which publish articles
> and books on programming. When these people see evidence of the problem
> right in front of them, what do you think they're mistaking it for?
>
>

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
news:%23vAa68WEGHA.208@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
You haven't been able to find any examples. And journalists have no
credibility here. They read your dribbles here and report it as fact. After
all the idiot jerry pournelle wrote an article in 1995 or 96 on how to edit
the registry files direct. He had not ever heard of Regedit. Is this one of
your authoritive sources? I can't tell you the last year I read a computer
magazine. They are filled with lies masquarading as fact.

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

I read idiots like Steve McConnell, Herbert Schildt, Marco Cantu and Charles
Simonyi. I suppose you can find fault with all of them.

Never heard of any of them. Are these kids?

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"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:gLWuf.1157$qg.508@news02.roc.ny...
> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
> news:%23vAa68WEGHA.208@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> You haven't been able to find any examples. And journalists have no
> credibility here. They read your dribbles here and report it as fact. After
> all the idiot jerry pournelle wrote an article in 1995 or 96 on how to edit
> the registry files direct. He had not ever heard of Regedit. Is this one of
> your authoritive sources? I can't tell you the last year I read a computer
> magazine. They are filled with lies masquarading as fact.
>
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>
> I read idiots like Steve McConnell, Herbert Schildt, Marco Cantu and Charles
> Simonyi. I suppose you can find fault with all of them.
>
>

If you've never heard of any of them, then you are lying. You are not a
programmer. You've just let all the air out of everything you've said today.

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
news:eciGmMXEGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Never heard of any of them. Are these kids?

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"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gLWuf.1157$qg.508@news02.roc.ny...
> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
> news:%23vAa68WEGHA.208@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> You haven't been able to find any examples. And journalists have no
> credibility here. They read your dribbles here and report it as fact.
> After
> all the idiot jerry pournelle wrote an article in 1995 or 96 on how to
> edit
> the registry files direct. He had not ever heard of Regedit. Is this one
> of
> your authoritive sources? I can't tell you the last year I read a computer
> magazine. They are filled with lies masquarading as fact.
>
> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>
> I read idiots like Steve McConnell, Herbert Schildt, Marco Cantu and
> Charles
> Simonyi. I suppose you can find fault with all of them.
>
>

It can happen if you don't follow the caveats I posted.
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Heather Westrick wrote:
> Thanks PA Bear. I am going crazy. Hopefully your suggestions will help
> (I'll try at home tonight). WHY is this happening? Like I stated
> before, I found this problem several times on google (lots mentioned
> deleting folders.dbx, which didn't solve the problem), but why does it
> happen?
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
> > Start here: http://www.insideoe.com/problems/errors.htm#crash
> >
> > General OE Caveats:
> >
> > - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
> > folders created for this purpose.
> >
> > - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
> >
> > - Disable Background Compacting [N/A in SP2] and frequently perform a
> > manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
> > http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm.
> >
> > - Do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine
> > if Automatic Compacting is taking place (WinXP SP2 only).
> >
> > - Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause
> > corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
> >
> > --
> > OE6-specific newsgroup:
> > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...tlooke xpress
> > OE General newsgroup:
> > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...xpress.general
> >
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
> >
> >
> > Heather Westrick wrote:
> > > I have a new Dell Dimension, XP Media Center Edition. I use Outlook
> > > Express
> > > 6.0 to read my email from my DSL provider. OE works fine the first
> > > time I get in and use it (after reboot); sometimes works fine a
> > > second time too. However, when I try to get in the third time, I
> > > double click the icon and it does nothing. When I do ctl-alt-del, it
> > > shows msimn.exe still running, even though I closed it. When I
> > > right-click to
> > > run via my shortcut, or via the start menu, I get the following error:
> > > "Outlook
> > > express could not be started because your computer is low on system
> > > resources.
> > > Most likely the problem is your computer is low on memory or
> > > unstable". I am using OE version 6.00.2900.2180.
> > >
> > > I've done my system updates. No viruses found either. I found this
> > > problem on google, but MS didn't mention it.
> > >
> > > Also, I can't click on 'mail here' links on Internet Explorer, because
> > > Outlook Express won't open. When I end process msimn.exe, I can get
> > > back into Outlook Express, can use 'mail here' links on the net, etc.
> > >
> > > Why isn't OE shutting down? Please help!

Why would you think I read anything, other than the PSDK, about computers? If I am going to read, and I do read a lot, I will be reading about economics, military history, social policy, and political science. I don't read idiots and only idiots write about computers. I don't even read computer stories in the paper. But I do correspond from time to time with senior MS programmers and also the MacIntosh designer.

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"Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:znXuf.2765$OU3.1312@news01.roc.ny...
> If you've never heard of any of them, then you are lying. You are not a
> programmer. You've just let all the air out of everything you've said today.
>
> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
> news:eciGmMXEGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Never heard of any of them. Are these kids?
>
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> "Doug Kanter" <ancientangler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gLWuf.1157$qg.508@news02.roc.ny...
>> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
>> news:%23vAa68WEGHA.208@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> You haven't been able to find any examples. And journalists have no
>> credibility here. They read your dribbles here and report it as fact.
>> After
>> all the idiot jerry pournelle wrote an article in 1995 or 96 on how to
>> edit
>> the registry files direct. He had not ever heard of Regedit. Is this one
>> of
>> your authoritive sources? I can't tell you the last year I read a computer
>> magazine. They are filled with lies masquarading as fact.
>>
>> ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
>>
>> I read idiots like Steve McConnell, Herbert Schildt, Marco Cantu and
>> Charles
>> Simonyi. I suppose you can find fault with all of them.
>>
>>
>
>