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Old 01-05-2006, 02:35 AM
Walter R.
 
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Default Replacement for Zone Alarm?

I am using Win XP SP2 and continually have trouble with Zone Alarm Pro. The
folks at Zone Alarm are not very helpful, either. I would like to replace
Zone Alarm.

For a new Firewall, I would like to use the Windows XP firewall. However, I
will miss the anti-ad features of Zone Alarm. Are there any other programs,
preferably free, that prevent banner ads and other flashy ads?

Thank you

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:35 AM
Galen
 
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Default Re: Replacement for Zone Alarm?

In news:vaLuf.9535$ka.917@tornado.socal.rr.com,
Walter R. <wer25@example.com> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> I am using Win XP SP2 and continually have trouble with Zone Alarm
> Pro. The folks at Zone Alarm are not very helpful, either. I would
> like to replace Zone Alarm.
>
> For a new Firewall, I would like to use the Windows XP firewall.
> However, I will miss the anti-ad features of Zone Alarm. Are there
> any other programs, preferably free, that prevent banner ads and
> other flashy ads?
> Thank you


You might like to take a look here:

Firewalls - Basics:
http://kgiii.info/windows/all/securi...ls-basics.html

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http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"We approached the case, you remember, with an absolutely blank mind,
which is always an advantage. We had formed no theories. We were simply
there to observe and to draw inferences from our observations." -
Sherlock Holmes


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:35 AM
Vanguard
 
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Default Re: Replacement for Zone Alarm?

"Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:O12JYWQEGHA.3148@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
> Firewalls - Basics:
> http://kgiii.info/windows/all/securi...ls-basics.html



Note the Sygate got bought by Symantec who promptly killed the product which
was their intent (and it has been with other competing products that they
have acquired in the past). Be aware that many of the features mentioned
for firewalls in many reviews is against the paid or Pro version and not the
freebie version.

You can do a Google to find product keys published online for the Sygate
Personal Firewall Pro (stick with the prior 5.5 version and not the 5.6
version). Obviously you are cracking the product to, ahem, steal it, but
are you really stealing when you are grabbing something out of someone's
garbage that they threw away? I leave it to you to figure out your ethics
regarding digging in someone else's software trashbin and despite that doing
such will affect absolutely no loss in revenue for a product that Symantec
deliberately trashed. It's not like you can actually buy the firewall from
Symantec so they cannot lose any revenue on it. For sure they still retain
their intellectual property rights to it.

Some reviews will tout the DLL authentication feature of Sygate. However,
it had a vulnerability in version 5.5 for which there was never a report
that it got fixe in version 5.6. Also, DLL authentication is flaky. It
will report DLLs that are not called by a program so I don't know on what
event Sygate is triggering. For example, a background program that has no
I/O (no window and no keyboard or mouse input) will alert that a Logitech
DLL was called, yet if you use SysInternals' File Monitor you will not see
any calls made to that DLL. What Sygate is using for its trigger regarding
which program is calling another is flawed, so disable that flaky feature.
You'll be answering prompts forever, even after authorizing the access and
later getting the same prompt for the same program and DLL, and getting it
again and again. Otherwise, I like the Sygate firewall a lot.

The Sygate firewall is just a firewall. It is not censorware. That means
it will not block ads. It does its job very well because it did not devolve
into bloatware. It has an IDS (intrusion detection system) which will
become stale due to the lack of any updates after Symantec killed off the
product. You can use the free Prevx 1R product to compensate by adding its
IDS function (the 1R full-function version is beta, always will be, and why
they offer it for free; the old Prevx Home free but reduced functionality
version is no longer available).


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:35 AM
Ted
 
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Default Re: Replacement for Zone Alarm?


"Walter R." <wer25@example.com> wrote in message
news:vaLuf.9535$ka.917@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>I am using Win XP SP2 and continually have trouble with Zone Alarm Pro. The
>folks at Zone Alarm are not very helpful, either. I would like to replace
>Zone Alarm.
>
> For a new Firewall, I would like to use the Windows XP firewall. However,
> I will miss the anti-ad features of Zone Alarm. Are there any other
> programs, preferably free, that prevent banner ads and other flashy ads?
>
> Thank you
>
> --
> Walter
> www.rationality.net
> -

Maybe you should try Zone Alarm Free. Works great along with AdMuncher, one
of the best ad removers I have tried. Not free but only $25.
http://www.admuncher.com/
Ted


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Old 01-05-2006, 02:35 AM
Lars-Erik Østerud
 
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Default Re: Replacement for Zone Alarm?

Ted:

> Maybe you should try Zone Alarm Free. Works great along with AdMuncher, one
> of the best ad removers I have tried. Not free but only $25.


I use ZA Free together with WebWasher (http://www.webwasher.com, free
version is accessible from a link far down to the left on the page).

WebWasher filters all commercials and stuff, needs some work to
configure what you want to filter. But then it is truly great !
--
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Old 01-05-2006, 02:36 AM
jt3
 
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Default Re: Replacement for Zone Alarm?

I share the view you suggest regarding commercial practices like Symantec's,
but the Devil's advocate in me points out how contrary this is to the good,
tried-and-true, 'capitalist model' that is so widely used as an excuse for
everything under the sun.
After all, Symantec paid good money to remove competition.
They should get value for their money.
Value for money invested is more important than the short-term general
public good, after all. Naturally staying employed is the public citizen's
most pressing interest, and who else will employ them, especially since it
is a given that only big business is efficient (at crowding out the smaller
competitors).
The Sherman and Clayton anti-trust acts, if they have not been totally
eviscerated by this time, should be ignored insofar as is possible, since
everyone knows big money would never do anything to the detriment of the
public. After all, the welfare of the country is in everyone's interest,
and they wouldn't do anything to harm their own interests, would they?
But if they happened to, by accident, of course, they could be paid money by
the government (the conservative government, of course, doing its
'conservation') to fix it. And if there were any problems in how that might
look, why just pay off a few politicians--after all, big money *has* the
money!

hth!
Joe
"Vanguard" <vanguard.code@comcastNIX.net> wrote in message
news:eIJDZoQEGHA.3920@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> "Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O12JYWQEGHA.3148@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >
> > Firewalls - Basics:
> > http://kgiii.info/windows/all/securi...ls-basics.html

>
>
> Note the Sygate got bought by Symantec who promptly killed the product

which
> was their intent (and it has been with other competing products that they
> have acquired in the past). Be aware that many of the features mentioned
> for firewalls in many reviews is against the paid or Pro version and not

the
> freebie version.
>
> You can do a Google to find product keys published online for the Sygate
> Personal Firewall Pro (stick with the prior 5.5 version and not the 5.6
> version). Obviously you are cracking the product to, ahem, steal it, but
> are you really stealing when you are grabbing something out of someone's
> garbage that they threw away? I leave it to you to figure out your ethics
> regarding digging in someone else's software trashbin and despite that

doing
> such will affect absolutely no loss in revenue for a product that Symantec
> deliberately trashed. It's not like you can actually buy the firewall

from
> Symantec so they cannot lose any revenue on it. For sure they still

retain
> their intellectual property rights to it.
>
> Some reviews will tout the DLL authentication feature of Sygate. However,
> it had a vulnerability in version 5.5 for which there was never a report
> that it got fixe in version 5.6. Also, DLL authentication is flaky. It
> will report DLLs that are not called by a program so I don't know on what
> event Sygate is triggering. For example, a background program that has no
> I/O (no window and no keyboard or mouse input) will alert that a Logitech
> DLL was called, yet if you use SysInternals' File Monitor you will not see
> any calls made to that DLL. What Sygate is using for its trigger

regarding
> which program is calling another is flawed, so disable that flaky feature.
> You'll be answering prompts forever, even after authorizing the access and
> later getting the same prompt for the same program and DLL, and getting it
> again and again. Otherwise, I like the Sygate firewall a lot.
>
> The Sygate firewall is just a firewall. It is not censorware. That means
> it will not block ads. It does its job very well because it did not

devolve
> into bloatware. It has an IDS (intrusion detection system) which will
> become stale due to the lack of any updates after Symantec killed off the
> product. You can use the free Prevx 1R product to compensate by adding

its
> IDS function (the 1R full-function version is beta, always will be, and

why
> they offer it for free; the old Prevx Home free but reduced functionality
> version is no longer available).
>
>



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  #7  
Old 01-05-2006, 02:36 AM
Wesley Vogel
 
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Default Re: Replacement for Zone Alarm?

Maybe someone could purchase Symantec and kill them. ;-) I'll chip in ten
bucks.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:eIJDZoQEGHA.3920@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
Vanguard <vanguard.code@comcastNIX.net> hunted and pecked:
> "Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O12JYWQEGHA.3148@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Firewalls - Basics:
>> http://kgiii.info/windows/all/securi...ls-basics.html

>
>
> Note the Sygate got bought by Symantec who promptly killed the product
> which was their intent (and it has been with other competing products
> that they have acquired in the past). Be aware that many of the features
> mentioned for firewalls in many reviews is against the paid or Pro
> version and not the freebie version.
>
> You can do a Google to find product keys published online for the Sygate
> Personal Firewall Pro (stick with the prior 5.5 version and not the 5.6
> version). Obviously you are cracking the product to, ahem, steal it, but
> are you really stealing when you are grabbing something out of someone's
> garbage that they threw away? I leave it to you to figure out your ethics
> regarding digging in someone else's software trashbin and despite that
> doing such will affect absolutely no loss in revenue for a product that
> Symantec deliberately trashed. It's not like you can actually buy the
> firewall from Symantec so they cannot lose any revenue on it. For sure
> they still retain their intellectual property rights to it.
>
> Some reviews will tout the DLL authentication feature of Sygate. However,
> it had a vulnerability in version 5.5 for which there was never a report
> that it got fixe in version 5.6. Also, DLL authentication is flaky. It
> will report DLLs that are not called by a program so I don't know on what
> event Sygate is triggering. For example, a background program that has no
> I/O (no window and no keyboard or mouse input) will alert that a Logitech
> DLL was called, yet if you use SysInternals' File Monitor you will not see
> any calls made to that DLL. What Sygate is using for its trigger
> regarding which program is calling another is flawed, so disable that
> flaky feature. You'll be answering prompts forever, even after
> authorizing the access and later getting the same prompt for the same
> program and DLL, and getting it again and again. Otherwise, I like the
> Sygate firewall a lot.
>
> The Sygate firewall is just a firewall. It is not censorware. That means
> it will not block ads. It does its job very well because it did not
> devolve into bloatware. It has an IDS (intrusion detection system) which
> will become stale due to the lack of any updates after Symantec killed
> off the product. You can use the free Prevx 1R product to compensate by
> adding its IDS function (the 1R full-function version is beta, always
> will be, and why they offer it for free; the old Prevx Home free but
> reduced functionality version is no longer available).


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Old 01-05-2006, 03:49 PM
Rock
 
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Vanguard wrote:

<snip>

> You can do a Google to find product keys published online for the Sygate
> Personal Firewall Pro (stick with the prior 5.5 version and not the 5.6
> version).


<snip>

What's wrong with the 5.6 version?

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MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

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Old 01-05-2006, 03:49 PM
Galen
 
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Default Re: Replacement for Zone Alarm?

In news:eIJDZoQEGHA.3920@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
Vanguard <vanguard.code@comcastNIX.net> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> "Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O12JYWQEGHA.3148@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Firewalls - Basics:
>> http://kgiii.info/windows/all/securi...ls-basics.html

>
>
> Note the Sygate got bought by Symantec who promptly killed the
> product which was their intent (and it has been with other competing
> products that they have acquired in the past). Be aware that many of
> the features mentioned for firewalls in many reviews is against the
> paid or Pro version and not the freebie version.
>
> You can do a Google to find product keys published online for the
> Sygate Personal Firewall Pro (stick with the prior 5.5 version and
> not the 5.6 version). Obviously you are cracking the product to,
> ahem, steal it, but are you really stealing when you are grabbing
> something out of someone's garbage that they threw away? I leave it
> to you to figure out your ethics regarding digging in someone else's
> software trashbin and despite that doing such will affect absolutely
> no loss in revenue for a product that Symantec deliberately trashed. It's
> not like you can actually buy the firewall from Symantec so they
> cannot lose any revenue on it. For sure they still retain their
> intellectual property rights to it.
> Some reviews will tout the DLL authentication feature of Sygate. However,
> it had a vulnerability in version 5.5 for which there was
> never a report that it got fixe in version 5.6. Also, DLL
> authentication is flaky. It will report DLLs that are not called by
> a program so I don't know on what event Sygate is triggering. For
> example, a background program that has no I/O (no window and no
> keyboard or mouse input) will alert that a Logitech DLL was called,
> yet if you use SysInternals' File Monitor you will not see any calls
> made to that DLL. What Sygate is using for its trigger regarding
> which program is calling another is flawed, so disable that flaky
> feature. You'll be answering prompts forever, even after authorizing
> the access and later getting the same prompt for the same program and
> DLL, and getting it again and again. Otherwise, I like the Sygate
> firewall a lot.
> The Sygate firewall is just a firewall. It is not censorware. That
> means it will not block ads. It does its job very well because it
> did not devolve into bloatware. It has an IDS (intrusion detection
> system) which will become stale due to the lack of any updates after
> Symantec killed off the product. You can use the free Prevx 1R
> product to compensate by adding its IDS function (the 1R
> full-function version is beta, always will be, and why they offer it
> for free; the old Prevx Home free but reduced functionality version
> is no longer available).


Alas, another link to remove from the page... I'll be down to just one
pretty soon from the looks of things or I'm going to have to start
recommending shareware products.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/
http://kgiii.info/

"We approached the case, you remember, with an absolutely blank mind,
which is always an advantage. We had formed no theories. We were simply
there to observe and to draw inferences from our observations." -
Sherlock Holmes


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Old 01-05-2006, 03:49 PM
Rock
 
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Galen wrote:

> In news:eIJDZoQEGHA.3920@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
> Vanguard <vanguard.code@comcastNIX.net> had this to say:
>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
>
>>"Galen" <galennews@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:O12JYWQEGHA.3148@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Firewalls - Basics:
>>>http://kgiii.info/windows/all/securi...ls-basics.html

>>
>>
>>Note the Sygate got bought by Symantec who promptly killed the
>>product which was their intent (and it has been with other competing
>>products that they have acquired in the past). Be aware that many of
>>the features mentioned for firewalls in many reviews is against the
>>paid or Pro version and not the freebie version.
>>
>>You can do a Google to find product keys published online for the
>>Sygate Personal Firewall Pro (stick with the prior 5.5 version and
>>not the 5.6 version). Obviously you are cracking the product to,
>>ahem, steal it, but are you really stealing when you are grabbing
>>something out of someone's garbage that they threw away? I leave it
>>to you to figure out your ethics regarding digging in someone else's
>>software trashbin and despite that doing such will affect absolutely
>>no loss in revenue for a product that Symantec deliberately trashed. It's
>>not like you can actually buy the firewall from Symantec so they
>>cannot lose any revenue on it. For sure they still retain their
>>intellectual property rights to it.
>>Some reviews will tout the DLL authentication feature of Sygate. However,
>>it had a vulnerability in version 5.5 for which there was
>>never a report that it got fixe in version 5.6. Also, DLL
>>authentication is flaky. It will report DLLs that are not called by
>>a program so I don't know on what event Sygate is triggering. For
>>example, a background program that has no I/O (no window and no
>>keyboard or mouse input) will alert that a Logitech DLL was called,
>>yet if you use SysInternals' File Monitor you will not see any calls
>>made to that DLL. What Sygate is using for its trigger regarding
>>which program is calling another is flawed, so disable that flaky
>>feature. You'll be answering prompts forever, even after authorizing
>>the access and later getting the same prompt for the same program and
>>DLL, and getting it again and again. Otherwise, I like the Sygate
>>firewall a lot.
>>The Sygate firewall is just a firewall. It is not censorware. That
>>means it will not block ads. It does its job very well because it
>>did not devolve into bloatware. It has an IDS (intrusion detection
>>system) which will become stale due to the lack of any updates after
>>Symantec killed off the product. You can use the free Prevx 1R
>>product to compensate by adding its IDS function (the 1R
>>full-function version is beta, always will be, and why they offer it
>>for free; the old Prevx Home free but reduced functionality version
>>is no longer available).

>
>
> Alas, another link to remove from the page... I'll be down to just one
> pretty soon from the looks of things or I'm going to have to start
> recommending shareware products.
>


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