Has anyone seen this article about MS ending free security updates in
2007?

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060103-5891.html

I bought box/cd of Home Edition 3 weeks ago. I just installed the OS
two days ago.

Does this mean that after Jan 1 my system will be unable to do any kind
of automatic updating of Windows XP Home?

If true, I am outraged. None of the marketing information mentioned
anything about the fact that you wouldn't be eligible for security
updates after a year.


Robert Nagle
http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/

The mainstream support ends December 31, 2006. Extended support ends
December 31, 2011. During extended support, you still get security updates.
Visit the MS site for details of product lifecycle.

Tom
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| Has anyone seen this article about MS ending free security updates in
| 2007?
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| http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060103-5891.html
|
| I bought box/cd of Home Edition 3 weeks ago. I just installed the OS
| two days ago.
|
| Does this mean that after Jan 1 my system will be unable to do any kind
| of automatic updating of Windows XP Home?
|
| If true, I am outraged. None of the marketing information mentioned
| anything about the fact that you wouldn't be eligible for security
| updates after a year.
|
|
| Robert Nagle
| http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/
|

By extended support, I assume you mean paid support for security
updates.

However, because Home edition is a consumer edition (instead of a
professional edition), it does not include a period for extended
support.

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3221

It is unclear whether that saves MS the trouble of deliver security
updates. I don't care about new features or stability. I just want
patches against the multitude of Windows exploits that are out there.
Because I just bought the Home Edition, it seems I am only going to
have that for a year.

The real issue is labelling. MS sold a product without disclosing an
important bit of consumer information. It shouldn't have done this.

I'm sorry if I sound angry. But I'm facing the prospect of having to
buy a second license just because MS never revealed when it would stop
including security updates.

(On a positive note, though, my hardware is all Vista friendly so far).


Robert Nagle
Houston, Texas
http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/

Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2
17-Sep-2004
[[Support ends either 12 months after the next service pack releases or at
the end of the product's support lifecycle, whichever comes first.]]

Windows XP Home Edition
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3221

Windows XP Professional
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3223

Microsoft Support Lifecycle Policy FAQ
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:1136407021.118854.274710@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com,
idiotprogrammer <idiotprogrammer@gmail.com> hunted and pecked:
> Has anyone seen this article about MS ending free security updates in
> 2007?
>
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060103-5891.html
>
> I bought box/cd of Home Edition 3 weeks ago. I just installed the OS
> two days ago.
>
> Does this mean that after Jan 1 my system will be unable to do any kind
> of automatic updating of Windows XP Home?
>
> If true, I am outraged. None of the marketing information mentioned
> anything about the fact that you wouldn't be eligible for security
> updates after a year.
>
>
> Robert Nagle
> http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/

as far as I can tell, the links you provided all seem to confirm what
the original article said.

MS documentation is unusually vague. What is support? Paid? UNpaid?
Automatic updates? Hotfix downloads? Will anybody from MS even be
working in the XP Home user space.

If consumer editions don't have "extended support", does that mean that
MS will not be providing security fixes to anybody? Does it mean that
XP professional hotfixes would generally work on Home Editions? Does it
mean that consumers will have to rely on 3rd parties for
security/hotfixes? How would a consumer install these third party
security fixes?

This ambiguity helps MS indirectly because it causes people like me to
pay for an additional OS.

The information here http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3221 is
important information, yet nowhere to be found on its promotional
pages.

I hate to sound like an anti-MS dweeb, but MS has definitely not been
straightforward here. If they don't want to extend free access to their
Security Updates, then no computer store should be selling Home Edition
to ANYBODY. That includes HP, Dell, Comp USA, Walmart. Doing so would
be absolutely irresponsible.

Robert Nagle
Houston, Texas
http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/

"idiotprogrammer" <idiotprogrammer@gmail.com> wrote:

>Has anyone seen this article about MS ending free security updates in
>2007?
>
>http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060103-5891.html
>
>I bought box/cd of Home Edition 3 weeks ago. I just installed the OS
>two days ago.
>
>Does this mean that after Jan 1 my system will be unable to do any kind
>of automatic updating of Windows XP Home?
>
>If true, I am outraged. None of the marketing information mentioned
>anything about the fact that you wouldn't be eligible for security
>updates after a year.
>
>
>Robert Nagle
>http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/


This is pure speculation with no real substance behind it.

Microsoft is still providing critical security updates for Windows 98
and Windows Me but if you check back through previously published
support guidelines you will quickly discover that this support was
supposed to have ended years ago. But it didn't.

Secondly, Windows XP Home and Windows XP Pro (also Media Center and
Tablet versions) are all compiled from the same source code base. So
it is difficult for me to envisage that Microsoft would go to the
extra work and expense necessary so as to prevent a security update
from being installed on XP Home while still allowing it to be
installed on Pro and Tablet (and Media Center?) versions.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

On 01/04/2006 "idiotprogrammer" <idiotprogrammer@gmail.com> wrote:
>By extended support, I assume you mean paid support for security
>updates.
>
>However, because Home edition is a consumer edition (instead of a
>professional edition), it does not include a period for extended
>support.
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy
>http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3221
>
>It is unclear whether that saves MS the trouble of deliver security
>updates. I don't care about new features or stability. I just want
>patches against the multitude of Windows exploits that are out there.
>Because I just bought the Home Edition, it seems I am only going to
>have that for a year.
>
>The real issue is labelling. MS sold a product without disclosing an
>important bit of consumer information. It shouldn't have done this.
>
>I'm sorry if I sound angry. But I'm facing the prospect of having to
>buy a second license just because MS never revealed when it would stop
>including security updates.
>
>(On a positive note, though, my hardware is all Vista friendly so far).
>
>
>Robert Nagle
>Houston, Texas
> http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/
>

As with "other" versions of Windows, it seems that 'extended" support seems to
mean technical support with a Microsoft agent and or download updates way pass
"End of Life" of the problems. As with Windows 98SE, you can still get
"updates" but you can not contact Tech support for help, unless you are on
extended support contract.


If you expect MS to support any version of Windows for every, you are
dreaming. How else will MS get us to "move" to the next version (level) of
Windows??

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Y.

idiotprogrammer wrote:

> Has anyone seen this article about MS ending free security updates in
> 2007?
>
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060103-5891.html
>
> I bought box/cd of Home Edition 3 weeks ago. I just installed the OS
> two days ago.
>
> Does this mean that after Jan 1 my system will be unable to do any kind
> of automatic updating of Windows XP Home?
>
> If true, I am outraged. None of the marketing information mentioned
> anything about the fact that you wouldn't be eligible for security
> updates after a year.
>
>
> Robert Nagle
> http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/
>

You will get security updates. You might have to buy Vista to get
Windows Media 11 or the new version of Outlook Express. Me and 98 still
get security updates. If MS didn't do that, the net would fall apart and
that would not be in MS' interests.

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Yves Leclerc wrote:
>
>
> If you expect MS to support any version of Windows for every, you are
> dreaming. How else will MS get us to "move" to the next version (level) of
> Windows??
>
> --
> ---
>
> Y.
>

By writing a better program? At this point, I see little reason to
upgrade to Vista. And, if I do, it will a year or so after it comes out.

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