Leythos wrote:
> For some Inkjet printers refilling them is not worth the trouble. I've
> always owned Epson inkjet printers because they always had better image
> quality than Cannon or HP (IMNSHO). I print a lot, my kids print a lot,
> and I've tried every type of refill kit with them. Most times, now
> matter how careful I was (and I'm not unskilled) I got ink on the work
> area, over filled the cart, found the ink bleeding out the bottom after
> I had filled it, etc... After a week of not using the printer with a
> refill cart, the head would have a plugged nozzle or some other problem.
> It got bad enough that I kept a set of carts with Windex in them to
> clean the head (since the head is in the printer not the cart)....
>
> After more than a decade of "dealing with" inkjet printers I purchase a
> Wax Thermal printer and I've never looked back, works every time, no
> mess, print is better than ink, color is BRIGHT on all papers, etc...
> Sure, the printer cost $950 and wax cubes for 6,000 sheets costs $100,
> but, it works every time all the time and it's fast.
>
> Some after market parts are not worth the cost you pay for them.
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Hi Leythos,

This is another great idea! Thanks for taking the time to post this.
Someone else suggested that a laser color printer also doesn't have
this ink drying in the printheads problem. Another person suggested
getting a printer which didn't use particulate inks (those which are a
suspension of colored particles).

All these are great ideas. I'm sorry some people who have nothing to
offer felt compelled to say something (like a grafitti artist who has
nothing to say and even less to offer), but I'm glad for the rest of
you who have provided me and everyone who reads this with much to
consider the next time we go shopping for a home color printer
solution.

Thank you for your insight,
Susan

In article <1131992411.185240.216890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
Susan Sharm <susanshaarm@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This is another great idea! Thanks for taking the time to post this.
> Someone else suggested that a laser color printer also doesn't have
> this ink drying in the printheads problem. Another person suggested
> getting a printer which didn't use particulate inks (those which are a
> suspension of colored particles).

Be sure you carefully examine some actual prints (NOT the demo pages)
made with the color laser before purchasing. Historically, color lasers
have been best for business images (charts, graphs, etc.) and don't
really do a great job wih photos or other continuous tone images.
Reading some reviews is a good idea as well.

They've gotten better, and it depends on how demanding you are - but
me, I have both. The Epson six-color inkjet (pain in the a** that it
is) is enough better than the HP Color Laserjet that keeping it is
worthwhile.

The Xerox "solid Color" Phase printers offer an interesting alternative
to other color image printers, but there are some limitations as well as
good points to them.

Good stuff:

They are very fast

Cost per copy is lower than other options

Little environmental waste (packaging, cartridge, etc.)

Not so good stuff:

Need to be left on all the time or a lot of the solid ink is wasted, but
goes into fairly deep "sleep" modes.

Large footprint and can be noisy.

Image quality is ot quite photographic, bright overly contrast images
are normal

Image has slight texture, a waxy feel and doesn't laminate well.

Surface of image may crack is bent or scratch.

Limited sources for the solid ink.


Art


Susan Sham wrote:

> Leythos wrote:
>
>>For some Inkjet printers refilling them is not worth the trouble. I've
>>always owned Epson inkjet printers because they always had better image
>>quality than Cannon or HP (IMNSHO). I print a lot, my kids print a lot,
>>and I've tried every type of refill kit with them. Most times, now
>>matter how careful I was (and I'm not unskilled) I got ink on the work
>>area, over filled the cart, found the ink bleeding out the bottom after
>>I had filled it, etc... After a week of not using the printer with a
>>refill cart, the head would have a plugged nozzle or some other problem.
>>It got bad enough that I kept a set of carts with Windex in them to
>>clean the head (since the head is in the printer not the cart)....
>>
>>After more than a decade of "dealing with" inkjet printers I purchase a
>>Wax Thermal printer and I've never looked back, works every time, no
>>mess, print is better than ink, color is BRIGHT on all papers, etc...
>>Sure, the printer cost $950 and wax cubes for 6,000 sheets costs $100,
>>but, it works every time all the time and it's fast.
>>
>>Some after market parts are not worth the cost you pay for them.
>>spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 in order to email me)
>
>
> Hi Leythos,
>
> This is another great idea! Thanks for taking the time to post this.
> Someone else suggested that a laser color printer also doesn't have
> this ink drying in the printheads problem. Another person suggested
> getting a printer which didn't use particulate inks (those which are a
> suspension of colored particles).
>
> All these are great ideas. I'm sorry some people who have nothing to
> offer felt compelled to say something (like a grafitti artist who has
> nothing to say and even less to offer), but I'm glad for the rest of
> you who have provided me and everyone who reads this with much to
> consider the next time we go shopping for a home color printer
> solution.
>
> Thank you for your insight,
> Susan
>

In article <aumef.513652$tl2.241075@pd7tw3no>, e-printerhelp@mvps.org
says...
> The Xerox "solid Color" Phase printers offer an interesting alternative
> to other color image printers, but there are some limitations as well as
> good points to them.
>
> Good stuff:
>
> They are very fast
>
> Cost per copy is lower than other options
>
> Little environmental waste (packaging, cartridge, etc.)
>
> Not so good stuff:
>
> Need to be left on all the time or a lot of the solid ink is wasted, but
> goes into fairly deep "sleep" modes.

I always put mine in deep sleep (button on the front) so that it doesn't
waste any ink keeping it warm - it's also set to deep sleep after 60
minutes.

> Large footprint and can be noisy.

No larger than any other printer in it's class - smaller than a HP
Laserjet 4.

> Image quality is ot quite photographic, bright overly contrast images
> are normal

Not true. You have a slider for the image quality and three different
print modes also.

> Image has slight texture, a waxy feel and doesn't laminate well.

Yes, it's wax on paper, not like Ink/Toner.

> Surface of image may crack is bent or scratch.

Never seen that happen yet. We also print a 70% Wax Coverage group
newsletter for our 4H kids, we do duplex, 8 pages (16 sides), and print
20 of these every month. The ones I've seen after the meetings are not
broken/cracked after being handled for an hour by the kids.

> Limited sources for the solid ink.

Yep, you can't walk into the Mom/Pop computer places, not in Radio
Shack, not in WalMart and get Wax. I order mine online.

The Wax thermal I have is the Phaser 8400B.

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