In article <eIjEqLW8FHA.1148@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, nope@at.all says...
> THANKS TO ALL (accept Leythos) for the helpfull info.

Nice kenny, I explained how you could setup more than one system without
a router, explained how you could do it with a router, and then because
I called you to task for running a P2P app you don't remember the HELP
part.

Like it or not, P2P apps don't really help most people that use them -
they actually provide another LARGE entry point into your system for
malware.

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In article <7Qxhf.35060$qw.16183@fed1read07>, null@null.com says...
> I should have specifically mentioned BitTorrent, it's being used for
> software distribution TODAY.

Yes, it is being used today, and for a lot of Linux users it's a great
way to get the latest distro, but it's not the only way, and it's also a
great way to share pirated materials - but I don't imagine that you'll
admit to seeing that.

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Kenny

D-Link will have whatever you need.. this is the D-Link Europe site..

http://www.dlink.com/products/category.asp

BTW, you need a router..

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"kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message
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>I only want up to 4 computers connected.. I dont need a
> hardware firewall ( I will use XPSP2 firewall on the pcs) .. I just want
> to connect my ADSL modem (its just a simple ethernet adsl modem) so that
> its always on, and the other computers connect to the internet and between
> themselves (for file and printer sharring). I want to be able to use
> EMULE, and other programs than need ports open directly to the internet,
> without the (router, hub, switch) getting in the way. All PCs with have
> static ip addresses (internal network).
>
> I DONT WANT TO FIDDLE WIITH PORTS... I want to be as if I am directly
> connected to the internet with only the XPSP2 software firewall...
>
> Router, hub, switch... whats the best for my situation?
>
>

Thanks for the info..


"NoNoBadDog!" <no_@spam_verizon.net> wrote in message
news:eTdcpoX8FHA.2616@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>
> "kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message
> news:eGhKmIT8FHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>I only want up to 4 computers connected.. I dont need a
>> hardware firewall ( I will use XPSP2 firewall on the pcs) .. I just want
>> to connect my ADSL modem (its just a simple ethernet adsl modem) so that
>> its always on, and the other computers connect to the internet and
>> between themselves (for file and printer sharring). I want to be able to
>> use EMULE, and other programs than need ports open directly to the
>> internet, without the (router, hub, switch) getting in the way. All PCs
>> with have static ip addresses (internal network).
>>
>> I DONT WANT TO FIDDLE WIITH PORTS... I want to be as if I am directly
>> connected to the internet with only the XPSP2 software firewall...
>>
>> Router, hub, switch... whats the best for my situation?
>>
>>
>
> You can *ONLY* use a router. A switch or Hub will not facilitate sharing
> of the internet connection.
>
> In addition, the firewall that is included with windows SP2 is inbound
> only. You have no outbound protection. Most routers sold these days use
> NAT (Network Address Translation) and have firewall technology built in,
> much greater protection than the simplistic SP2 firewall.
>
> With a router, you will not have to "mess with ports" or any of the other
> things you describe.
>
> Finally, you will need serious Antivirus, adware, spyware and malware
> protection running Emule.
> Every P2P network is rife with viruses, trojans, dialers, keyloggers, etc.
> P2P is more danger than it is worth.
>
> Bobby
>
>

Thanks Mike...

I have understood that I need a router, now with all the replies. For the
time bieng I am setting up things with ICS, but I will probably get a new
adsl modem/router/wireless hub soon.
The only reason I didnt want ICS is because I had to have a pc on all the
time to work as the software router.. but I have now come to the conclusion
that one of my PCs WILL be on all the time 24/7 anyway...

One last question.. If I continue using the ICS of XP as a software router,
can I just get a "switch" and connect that to the ICS computer?

Also do you have a site as a MVP?

Thanks again.

"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mikehalll@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eWkCEJd8FHA.3380@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Kenny
>
> D-Link will have whatever you need.. this is the D-Link Europe site..
>
> http://www.dlink.com/products/category.asp
>
> BTW, you need a router..
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message
> news:eGhKmIT8FHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>I only want up to 4 computers connected.. I dont need a
>> hardware firewall ( I will use XPSP2 firewall on the pcs) .. I just want
>> to connect my ADSL modem (its just a simple ethernet adsl modem) so that
>> its always on, and the other computers connect to the internet and
>> between themselves (for file and printer sharring). I want to be able to
>> use EMULE, and other programs than need ports open directly to the
>> internet, without the (router, hub, switch) getting in the way. All PCs
>> with have static ip addresses (internal network).
>>
>> I DONT WANT TO FIDDLE WIITH PORTS... I want to be as if I am directly
>> connected to the internet with only the XPSP2 software firewall...
>>
>> Router, hub, switch... whats the best for my situation?
>>
>>
>
>

Kenny

Just go for a 4 port ADSL router.. connect the router to your modem , and
hook up all four of them to the router.. job done..

Re. my own site.. no, I don't have one one up and running at present..

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MVP - Windows Shell/User


"kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message
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> Thanks Mike...
>
> I have understood that I need a router, now with all the replies. For the
> time bieng I am setting up things with ICS, but I will probably get a new
> adsl modem/router/wireless hub soon.
> The only reason I didnt want ICS is because I had to have a pc on all the
> time to work as the software router.. but I have now come to the
> conclusion that one of my PCs WILL be on all the time 24/7 anyway...
>
> One last question.. If I continue using the ICS of XP as a software
> router, can I just get a "switch" and connect that to the ICS computer?
>
> Also do you have a site as a MVP?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mikehalll@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eWkCEJd8FHA.3380@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Kenny
>>
>> D-Link will have whatever you need.. this is the D-Link Europe site..
>>
>> http://www.dlink.com/products/category.asp
>>
>> BTW, you need a router..
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message
>> news:eGhKmIT8FHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>I only want up to 4 computers connected.. I dont need a
>>> hardware firewall ( I will use XPSP2 firewall on the pcs) .. I just want
>>> to connect my ADSL modem (its just a simple ethernet adsl modem) so that
>>> its always on, and the other computers connect to the internet and
>>> between themselves (for file and printer sharring). I want to be able to
>>> use EMULE, and other programs than need ports open directly to the
>>> internet, without the (router, hub, switch) getting in the way. All PCs
>>> with have static ip addresses (internal network).
>>>
>>> I DONT WANT TO FIDDLE WIITH PORTS... I want to be as if I am directly
>>> connected to the internet with only the XPSP2 software firewall...
>>>
>>> Router, hub, switch... whats the best for my situation?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> In article <7Qxhf.35060$qw.16183@fed1read07>, null@null.com says...
> > I should have specifically mentioned BitTorrent, it's being used for
> > software distribution TODAY.
>
> it's also a
> great way to share pirated materials - but I don't imagine that you'll
> admit to seeing that.
>

Didn't I just say that 99% of its illegitimate TODAY?!

(even when you AGREE w/ some ppl, they just don't wanna believe it, whatdaya
gonna do)

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In article <HCNhf.38109$qw.9674@fed1read07>, null@null.com says...
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:KGEhf.117894$Hs.77910@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> > In article <7Qxhf.35060$qw.16183@fed1read07>, null@null.com says...
> > > I should have specifically mentioned BitTorrent, it's being used for
> > > software distribution TODAY.
> >
> > it's also a
> > great way to share pirated materials - but I don't imagine that you'll
> > admit to seeing that.
> >
>
> Didn't I just say that 99% of its illegitimate TODAY?!
>
> (even when you AGREE w/ some ppl, they just don't wanna believe it, whatdaya
> gonna do)

Maybe I just didn't read it that way you thought you expressed it. It
happens from time to time.

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