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  #11  
Old 01-05-2006, 02:19 AM
Techdango
 
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Default RE: A simple network... possible?

Should work just fine. You can't use cross-over cables though. You must use
regular cables.

I know you don't want to here this, but if you are going to purchase a
switch, I'd look into getting a broadband router/switch. This way you don't
need to leave PC1 on all of the time to get internet access. Plus, if PC1
goes down, your Internet connection won't go down.
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--------
Ryan


"kenny" wrote:

> I want to make the following configuration...
> Please don't suggest I get a router, because I don't want a router.
>
> Can I make the network like the following image?
>
> http://www.computerboom.net/kenny/my-network.jpg
>
> PC1 plays the role of a software router with ICS and sends the
> internet connection to Pc2 and Pc3 via a SWITCH like the following NETGEAR
> one:
> http://www.netgear.com/products/details/FS605.php
>
> Will this work for internet sharing and file and printer sharing? All PCs
> have static
> IPs as shown in the image.
>
> I already have a network with ICS between 2 computers (using a crossover
> cable)..
> but I am thinking of getting the switch so I can add a third one.
>
> THANKS IN ADVANCE!
>
>
>

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  #12  
Old 01-05-2006, 02:19 AM
BMR777
 
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Default Re: A simple network... possible?

I have a very similar setup for my web server.

I have it like this:

Cable Modem>Desktop with 2 NIC and ICS > Wireless Router Connected VIA
Crossover Cable > Other PCs on my network.

It works great. All of the PCs behind the router can see each other and
share files and the printer (on a print server) . The only catch is, as far
as I know, the web server PC can't see the printer or other PCs. There may
be a way to do it, but I don't know.

BMR777
http://www.rusnakweb.com
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  #13  
Old 01-05-2006, 02:19 AM
Ian
 
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Default RE: A simple network... possible?

Yes, though why you want to do it this way I don't understand. The box
acting as the 'DMZ' will need to be firewalled as it's the frontline for any
nasty stuff coming your way.

There are advantages in working like that but with a proxy in place of ICS,
as that would allow close control over Internet access, and the option of
advert-filtering, etc. Little point with ICS though, as it offers no real
control.

Or... I'd use a router. ;-)


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  #14  
Old 01-05-2006, 02:19 AM
Papa
 
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Default Re: A simple network... possible?

What's wrong with using a router? That's really the simplist, easiest, most
versatile, way to go. I have 3 PCs, plus a wireless laptop in my home
network. It was a breeze to install, and all of these computers are totally
independent of one another in that none of them require that some particular
PC has to be up and running before another computer can access the internet.
Yet they can all share files and share output devices such as printers, not
to mention that adding more PCs to the network is a snap if the router has
enough ports.

Routers are inexpensive. For example, Amazon is selling the D-Link DI-624
Wireless Cable/DSL Router, 4-Port Switch, 802.11g, 108Mbps for about $60
right now.

And get rid of ICS. It is OK for a 2-PC network, but that's about it.


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  #15  
Old 01-05-2006, 02:19 AM
kenny
 
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Default Re: A simple network... possible?

Please, I said I dont want a router....I made tha clear in the fiirst post.
I need PC1 to be connected like that with the modem.

"Papa" <bikingis@my.fun> wrote in message
news:eIw4Wj6$FHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> What's wrong with using a router? That's really the simplist, easiest,
> most versatile, way to go. I have 3 PCs, plus a wireless laptop in my home
> network. It was a breeze to install, and all of these computers are
> totally independent of one another in that none of them require that some
> particular PC has to be up and running before another computer can access
> the internet. Yet they can all share files and share output devices such
> as printers, not to mention that adding more PCs to the network is a snap
> if the router has enough ports.
>
> Routers are inexpensive. For example, Amazon is selling the D-Link DI-624
> Wireless Cable/DSL Router, 4-Port Switch, 802.11g, 108Mbps for about $60
> right now.
>
> And get rid of ICS. It is OK for a 2-PC network, but that's about it.
>



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  #16  
Old 01-05-2006, 02:19 AM
kenny
 
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Default Re: A simple network... possible?

Yes indeed.. this was what I was trying to do.... but for some reason it
would not let me... after shuting down for the night and reading your post
the other day, and tried the same exact thing and it worked....

This is sufficient for my needs which are temporarily connecting a laptop
for a few days

Thanks to everyone for their input.


"Doug Sherman [MVP]" <dsherman@notampabayspamforme.rr.com> wrote in message
news:uF%23Rag2$FHA.3800@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> You 'might' be able to make this work if you bridge the connections on
> Computer 2:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...l/proddocs/en-
> us/hnw_bridge_install.mspx
>
> Doug Sherman
> MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
>
> "kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message
> news:#Q8AR51$FHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> I tried that but it did not work.... Does what you say work? because I

> could
>> not do it....
>>
>> Please give me info if you know about this..
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>>
>> "Chas" <charles(obvious)@prattindustries.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:dnkntd$oqn$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> > Hi
>> > Why not add another NIC to Computer 2 and connect to Computer 3
>> >
>> > Chas
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message
>> > news:Ok92Tr1$FHA.2256@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> >>I want to make the following configuration...
>> >> Please don't suggest I get a router, because I don't want a router.
>> >>
>> >> Can I make the network like the following image?
>> >>
>> >> http://www.computerboom.net/kenny/my-network.jpg
>> >>
>> >> PC1 plays the role of a software router with ICS and sends the
>> >> internet connection to Pc2 and Pc3 via a SWITCH like the following
>> >> NETGEAR one:
>> >> http://www.netgear.com/products/details/FS605.php
>> >>
>> >> Will this work for internet sharing and file and printer sharing? All

> PCs
>> >> have static
>> >> IPs as shown in the image.
>> >>
>> >> I already have a network with ICS between 2 computers (using a

> crossover
>> >> cable)..
>> >> but I am thinking of getting the switch so I can add a third one.
>> >>
>> >> THANKS IN ADVANCE!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>



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  #17  
Old 01-05-2006, 02:19 AM
Papa
 
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Default Re: A simple network... possible?

I don't understand. What does a PCI bus have to do with it? A router, such
as the one I described, just needs to connect to a PCs NIC card, which you
apparently already have. My external modem connects to the router, not to a
PC. Granted, it is a broadband modem.

"kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message
news:e5Hj$c7$FHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Please, I said I dont want a router....I made tha clear in the fiirst
> post.
> I need PC1 to be connected like that with the modem.
>
> "Papa" <bikingis@my.fun> wrote in message
> news:eIw4Wj6$FHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> What's wrong with using a router? That's really the simplist, easiest,
>> most versatile, way to go. I have 3 PCs, plus a wireless laptop in my
>> home network. It was a breeze to install, and all of these computers are
>> totally independent of one another in that none of them require that some
>> particular PC has to be up and running before another computer can access
>> the internet. Yet they can all share files and share output devices such
>> as printers, not to mention that adding more PCs to the network is a snap
>> if the router has enough ports.
>>
>> Routers are inexpensive. For example, Amazon is selling the D-Link DI-624
>> Wireless Cable/DSL Router, 4-Port Switch, 802.11g, 108Mbps for about $60
>> right now.
>>
>> And get rid of ICS. It is OK for a 2-PC network, but that's about it.
>>

>
>



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Old 01-05-2006, 02:19 AM
Asher_N
 
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Default Re: A simple network... possible?


On 13-Dec-2005, "kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote:

> Please, I said I dont want a router....I made tha clear in the fiirst
> post.
> I need PC1 to be connected like that with the modem.


Can you explain why you are so adamant aginst a router?

While your proposed config will work, most of us would not trust a WinXP
computer as the primary firewall to the internet. Plus, ICS can be flaky and
your internet connection will be affected by CPU load on that computer. You
can pick up a refurb router cheaper than a switch. Remeber, those $20 dollar
switches are really not reliable.
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  #19  
Old 01-05-2006, 02:20 AM
kenny
 
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Default Re: A simple network... possible?

I did not say PCI, I said Pc1 note that that is a number 1 . If you look
at my illustration on my original post you will understand!


"Papa" <bikingis@my.fun> wrote in message
news:Ovo1NB$$FHA.2320@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>I don't understand. What does a PCI bus have to do with it? A router, such
>as the one I described, just needs to connect to a PCs NIC card, which you
>apparently already have. My external modem connects to the router, not to a
>PC. Granted, it is a broadband modem.
>
> "kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message
> news:e5Hj$c7$FHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Please, I said I dont want a router....I made tha clear in the fiirst
>> post.
>> I need PC1 to be connected like that with the modem.
>>
>> "Papa" <bikingis@my.fun> wrote in message
>> news:eIw4Wj6$FHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>> What's wrong with using a router? That's really the simplist, easiest,
>>> most versatile, way to go. I have 3 PCs, plus a wireless laptop in my
>>> home network. It was a breeze to install, and all of these computers are
>>> totally independent of one another in that none of them require that
>>> some particular PC has to be up and running before another computer can
>>> access the internet. Yet they can all share files and share output
>>> devices such as printers, not to mention that adding more PCs to the
>>> network is a snap if the router has enough ports.
>>>
>>> Routers are inexpensive. For example, Amazon is selling the D-Link
>>> DI-624 Wireless Cable/DSL Router, 4-Port Switch, 802.11g, 108Mbps for
>>> about $60 right now.
>>>
>>> And get rid of ICS. It is OK for a 2-PC network, but that's about it.
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



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  #20  
Old 01-05-2006, 02:20 AM
Chuck
 
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PC-1 is the modems designation for the first "customer" device connected to
it.
CPE Connections
The data shown in the table below provides information about the
customer premise equipment
(CPE) connected to your cable modem.
CPE MAC Address IP Address Connect To
PC-1 00:xx:xx:xx:5x:xx xx.xxx.xxx.xxx Ethernet


The modem usually has two possible connection ports- a USB port and an
ethernet port. A PC NIC cable or a USB cable (possibly with a driver) will
get the job done. Generally, the modem comes with one or the other of the
cables.The modem directions will usually specify what type of ethernet cable
to use.


"kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message
news:uIbITJNAGHA.2708@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I did not say PCI, I said Pc1 note that that is a number 1 . If you look
> at my illustration on my original post you will understand!
>
>
> "Papa" <bikingis@my.fun> wrote in message
> news:Ovo1NB$$FHA.2320@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >I don't understand. What does a PCI bus have to do with it? A router,

such
> >as the one I described, just needs to connect to a PCs NIC card, which

you
> >apparently already have. My external modem connects to the router, not to

a
> >PC. Granted, it is a broadband modem.
> >
> > "kenny" <nope@at.all> wrote in message
> > news:e5Hj$c7$FHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> Please, I said I dont want a router....I made tha clear in the fiirst
> >> post.
> >> I need PC1 to be connected like that with the modem.
> >>
> >> "Papa" <bikingis@my.fun> wrote in message
> >> news:eIw4Wj6$FHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >>> What's wrong with using a router? That's really the simplist, easiest,
> >>> most versatile, way to go. I have 3 PCs, plus a wireless laptop in my
> >>> home network. It was a breeze to install, and all of these computers

are
> >>> totally independent of one another in that none of them require that
> >>> some particular PC has to be up and running before another computer

can
> >>> access the internet. Yet they can all share files and share output
> >>> devices such as printers, not to mention that adding more PCs to the
> >>> network is a snap if the router has enough ports.
> >>>
> >>> Routers are inexpensive. For example, Amazon is selling the D-Link
> >>> DI-624 Wireless Cable/DSL Router, 4-Port Switch, 802.11g, 108Mbps for
> >>> about $60 right now.
> >>>
> >>> And get rid of ICS. It is OK for a 2-PC network, but that's about it.
> >>>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>



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