Ted Zieglar wrote:
> "....to hell with what people think..."
>
> That pretty much sums up your problem.

To hell with what YOU think!

Happy god-damned Holidays! ;-)

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Well, actually, almost no-one *celebrates* Christmas! Even those extra no.s
that go to church that one day of the year are just doing it for the
Christmas Rush...

This reminds me of when I was a kid, having forms filled out - as
beaurocracy exerted it's grip around our infant throats - on which I was
supposed to say 'Church of England', as it was the nearest they allowed -
apparently - to 'not religeous, actually!' Courtesy would involve not
assuming that anyone who isn't, say, Jewish, *must* be something else other
than Agnostic/Atheist!

Shane


"Ted Zieglar" <teddy.z@notmail.com> wrote in message
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>I appreciate people who don't automatically assume I celebrate Christmas.
> That's not "politically correct" - it's called "courtesy".
>
> --
> Ted Zieglar
> "You can do it if you try."
>
> "Mikie" <francisco9@att.net> wrote in message
> news:1135254191.854458.291390@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Thanks! But don't you know it's not Politically Correct to say
>> Christmas. By doing so, you may offend those that don't believe in
>> Christmas. Don't forget, majority doesn't rule in this country! So
>> there!
>> Oh, A blessed Christmas to you and those you love!!!!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>

Now now boys.....

Its time to be joyful and good will towards all..

And Ted? to actually employ a term "political correctness" with
Christmas....man....

Was Jesu a republican or democrat?

Theologians, whether Protestant or Roman Catholic, and secular
historians, do not dispute how, and why, the December 25 date was
arbitrarily chosen by the Roman church in the fourth century (i.e.
"Christmas" did not begin to be observed until hundreds of years after
Christ's birth) for no other reason than to attempt to supercede (even
though a number of the same activities from the pagan festival were
adopted into the traditional Christmas observance that is seen today,
including yule logs, mistletoe, and the Christmas tree itself) a
centuries-old Roman pagan holiday, Sol Invictus ("the invincible sun")
that was held on that date to celebrate "the return of the sun" (i.e.
longer daylight) after the passing of the Winter Solstice on December
21.

An excerpt from the highly respected Encyclopedia Britannica, 15th
Edition, provides us with independent documentation of this well-known
truth:
"The traditional customs connected with Christmas have developed from
several sources as a result of the coincidence of the celebration of
the birth of Christ with the pagan agricultural and solar observances
at mid-winter. In the Roman world, the Saturnalia, December 17, was a
time of merry-making and exchange of gifts. December 25 was also
regarded as the birth date of the Iranian mystery god Mithra, the "Sun
of Righteousness." On the Roman New Year, January 1, houses were
decorated with greenery and lights, and gifts were given to children
and the poor. To these observances were added the German and Celtic
rites when the Teutonic tribes penetrated into Gaul, Britain and
central Europe. Food and good fellowship, the Yule log and Yule cakes,
greenery and fir trees, gifts and greetings all commemorated different
aspects of this festive season. Fires and lights, symbols of warmth
and lasting life, have always been associated with the winter
festival, both pagan and Christian. Since the Middle Ages, evergreens,
as symbols of survival, have been associated with Christmas."


I'm wishiny you and your's a Merry Christmas and I don't realy care if
you have a Happy New Year or not.

hiredgun56@gmail.com wrote:
> Now now boys.....
>
> Its time to be joyful and good will towards all..

Bah! Humbug!

> And Ted? to actually employ a term "political correctness" with
> Christmas....man....
>
> Was Jesu a republican or democrat?

A liberal.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...ushvsjesus.htm

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Jay wrote:

> Wishing everyone here a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
>
> A Special Note of Appreciation for the Very Helpful People who take care to
> answer the myriad questions posed on these groups.
>
> Regards.
>
> Jay & Mobius
>
>

Merry Christmas to you and yours too, Jay! And very Happy Holidays to
all those that do not celeibrate Christmas!

God bless us, every one.

Steve N.

kurttrail wrote:

> hiredgun56@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>Now now boys.....
>>
>>Its time to be joyful and good will towards all..
>
>
> Bah! Humbug!
>
>
>>And Ted? to actually employ a term "political correctness" with
>>Christmas....man....
>>
>>Was Jesu a republican or democrat?
>
>
> A liberal.
>
> http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...ushvsjesus.htm
>

LOL! I love it! Thanks Kurt! And Merry Christmas to you! Yeah, that's
right, MERRY FREAKING ***CHRISTMAS***!!!

Peace Bro,
Steve N.

"Mungo Bulge" <NO.SPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:exB2XO2BGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Theologians, whether Protestant or Roman Catholic, and secular
> historians, do not dispute how, and why, the December 25 date was
> arbitrarily chosen by the Roman church in the fourth century (i.e.
> "Christmas" did not begin to be observed until hundreds of years after
> Christ's birth) for no other reason than to attempt to supercede (even
> though a number of the same activities from the pagan festival were
> adopted into the traditional Christmas observance that is seen today,
> including yule logs, mistletoe, and the Christmas tree itself) a
> centuries-old Roman pagan holiday, Sol Invictus ("the invincible sun")
> that was held on that date to celebrate "the return of the sun" (i.e.
> longer daylight) after the passing of the Winter Solstice on December
> 21.
>

The way I understood it, it was a emperor edict to choose one particular day
to celebrate the birthday of various religious gods in the Roman Empire.
Apparently, this Roman emperor was tired of too many religious holidays and
chose December 25. And this included the birthday of the christian's son of
god, Jesus Christ.

Have you noticed that Sol Invictus day occured after the third day of the
winter soltice? Could this be the basis of the resurrection of Jesus Christ
from the dead, that is, was Easter based from the Sol Invictus day?

As an altar boy during Vatican I, the name of Jesus Christ was always
pronounced in the Latin mass as "jeh-soo" and not "yeh-soo." I think the
correct spelling in Latin was "Gesu" and not "Jesu."

So, Happy Sol Invictus Day to everybody!


Orinello

Orin Oríg wrote:

> As an altar boy during Vatican I, the name of Jesus Christ was always
> pronounced in the Latin mass as "jeh-soo" and not "yeh-soo." I think
> the correct spelling in Latin was "Gesu" and not "Jesu."


There was no "J" in Latin. The Latin spelling was "Iesu." The Italian
spelling is "Gesu."

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Orin Oríg wrote:
> "Mungo Bulge" <NO.SPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:exB2XO2BGHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
>>Theologians, whether Protestant or Roman Catholic, and secular
>>historians, do not dispute how, and why, the December 25 date was
>>arbitrarily chosen by the Roman church in the fourth century (i.e.
>>"Christmas" did not begin to be observed until hundreds of years after
>>Christ's birth) for no other reason than to attempt to supercede (even
>>though a number of the same activities from the pagan festival were
>>adopted into the traditional Christmas observance that is seen today,
>>including yule logs, mistletoe, and the Christmas tree itself) a
>>centuries-old Roman pagan holiday, Sol Invictus ("the invincible sun")
>>that was held on that date to celebrate "the return of the sun" (i.e.
>>longer daylight) after the passing of the Winter Solstice on December
>>21.
>>
>
>
> The way I understood it, it was a emperor edict to choose one particular day
> to celebrate the birthday of various religious gods in the Roman Empire.
> Apparently, this Roman emperor was tired of too many religious holidays and
> chose December 25. And this included the birthday of the christian's son of
> god, Jesus Christ.
>
> Have you noticed that Sol Invictus day occured after the third day of the
> winter soltice? Could this be the basis of the resurrection of Jesus Christ
> from the dead, that is, was Easter based from the Sol Invictus day?
>
> As an altar boy during Vatican I, the name of Jesus Christ was always
> pronounced in the Latin mass as "jeh-soo" and not "yeh-soo." I think the
> correct spelling in Latin was "Gesu" and not "Jesu."
>
> So, Happy Sol Invictus Day to everybody!
>
>
> Orinello
>
>

Let's not forget Diwali, the Festival of Lights in India:

http://www.gsia.cmu.edu/afs/andrew/g...29/diwali.html

Steve N.