Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Woody <usenet@alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > You can listen to music purchased from the iTunes store on any device.
> >
> > If you want to go through hoops you probably can but it is a lot harder
> > than if you had an unprotected MP3.
> > I could play it on my car stereo but I would have to burn it to CD, then
> > rip it to mp3 and then play that, by which time it would have lost a lot
> > of quality.
>
> That seems like a lot of steps. I have stuff I have downloaded from the
> iTMS, using iTunes. To make a copy to play in the car (I don't have an
> iPod) all I do is to create a compilation in iTunes and burn that
> directly to CD. One step. It works fine and can be repeated ad
> infinitum. Quality is perfectly okay for listening in the car.

Too bad there's no easy way to burn the tracks to disk image, so you
don't have the nuisance of an actual CD.

I often buy individual tracks on impulse from ITMS, and last week I
bought a whole CD. I thought "that was easy - why don't I do that all
the time" - before I remembered that the reason is that I now have a
distinctly un-portable pile of protected files.

"Don't steal music". OK, but at least let me have what I bought.

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<1h8hmln.80m0qe1ve94ahN%real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk>,
real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) wrote:

> I have an iPod and iTunes, but I don't have a wife. So consequently,
> as you might imagine, I feel a bit left out by all this. Is there
> some way I can enjoy easy digital music file transfers without having
> a wife?

Do you have a husband? If so, just engage in role reversal. If not,
get a husband or a wife.

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real-not-anti-spam-address@apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) wrote:

> I'm perfectly happy with my old copy of Girlfren (the 1993 version,
> which I have used exclusively since then) and works perfectly well
> and does everything I want. Except - er, ah, yeah... Anyway, I don't
> want to replace it - I'm used to the package, it's pretty reliable
> and I know my way round most of its minor flaws.
>
> I can't believe I'm supposed to get a wife just because of iTunes.

No, it's because of the lack of iTunes. If you have iTunes, you don't
need a wife.

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In article <1h8hjeu.4tdq60t3h7x1N%usenet@alienrat.co.uk>,
usenet@alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote:

> > You can listen to music purchased from the iTunes store on any
> > device.
>
> If you want to go through hoops you probably can but it is a lot
> harder than if you had an unprotected MP3.

True.

> I could play it on my car stereo but I would have to burn it to CD,
> then rip it to mp3 and then play that,

I play it on my car stereo by burning it to a CD, and play that.

> by which time it would have lost a lot of quality.

Just converting it to MP3 loses a lot of quality.

Thing is that you don't have to use the iTunes music store to get music
for the iPod. You can download it from anywhere and load it into the
iPod.

> If a track on a CD costs me about £1, then a track with restrictions
> like from the iTunes store is worth (to me) about 35p, so they are
> currently too expensive.

But if you want only one or two tracks from the CD, why pay for the
entire CD?

I'm originally from New York City. About a year ago, I was feeling very
nostalgic, so I searched the iTunes music store for songs about New
York, and downloaded about 35 of them. It cost me about $35 to do so,
but if I had to buy the CDs that those songs were on, it would have cost
me hundreds of dollars.

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In article <1h8hlo7.1c89pyypkm9btN%usenet@alienrat.co.uk>,
usenet@alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote:

> You are just making a CD though with up to 20 (short) tracks - I am
> talking about an mp3 cd with 100 or so.

Oh. Well, my car's CD player doesn't handle MP3 (although the 2006
model of the car does), but it does have a six-disk CD changer, so I
don't need to put a hundred tracks on one disk.

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In article <BFDD5B60.11470%bingbong@spamcop.net>,
Bonge Boo! <bingbong@spamcop.net> wrote:

> > You can listen to music purchased from the iTunes store on any
> > device.
>
> Rubbish.

Please explain why it's rubbish.

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In article
<1h8hssu.7xz5zh2oj9s0N%southend.unitedfc.5.lukebos man@spamgourmet.com>,
southend.unitedfc.5.lukebosman@spamgourmet.com (Luke Bosman) wrote:

> > >> To be honest, I have a few hundred CDs but don't have anything
> > >> from the iTunes store. In general most of them were picked up
> > >> for less than they would be on iTunes, and I don't get the
> > >> restrictions on what I can listen to them on.
> > >
> > > You can listen to music purchased from the iTunes store on any
> > > device.
> >
> > Rubbish.
>
> Quite. I tried it on my toaster and fridge.

Oh, point taken. My bad.

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Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <BFDD5B60.11470%bingbong@spamcop.net>,
> Bonge Boo! <bingbong@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> > > You can listen to music purchased from the iTunes store on any
> > > device.
> >
> > Rubbish.
>
> Please explain why it's rubbish.

Because it isn't true. Most devices can't play iTMS protected AAC files.
If you've transcoded them into some other format (say by stripping the
DRM or burning/re-encoding) then they're no longer 'music purchased from
the iTunes store'.

Jim
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In article <1h8hyag.yhtmut1ybltj1N%jim@magrathea.plus.com>,
jim@magrathea.plus.com (Jim) wrote:

> > > > You can listen to music purchased from the iTunes store on any
> > > > device.
> > >
> > > Rubbish.
> >
> > Please explain why it's rubbish.
>
> Because it isn't true. Most devices can't play iTMS protected AAC
> files. If you've transcoded them into some other format (say by
> stripping the DRM or burning/re-encoding) then they're no longer
> 'music purchased from the iTunes store'.

It it isn't music purchased from the iTunes store, where did it come
from?

If I buy a house from American Home Builders, remove the wall between
two bedrooms to make a larger room, convert the garage to a den, add on
another room, and replace all the appliances, lift it off its
foundation, and move it 100 miles to a new site, I still bought it from
American Home builders.

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Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <1h8hyag.yhtmut1ybltj1N%jim@magrathea.plus.com>,
> jim@magrathea.plus.com (Jim) wrote:
>
> > > > > You can listen to music purchased from the iTunes store on any
> > > > > device.
> > > >
> > > > Rubbish.
> > >
> > > Please explain why it's rubbish.
> >
> > Because it isn't true. Most devices can't play iTMS protected AAC
> > files. If you've transcoded them into some other format (say by
> > stripping the DRM or burning/re-encoding) then they're no longer
> > 'music purchased from the iTunes store'.
>
> It it isn't music purchased from the iTunes store, where did it come
> from?
>
> If I buy a house from American Home Builders, remove the wall between
> two bedrooms to make a larger room, convert the garage to a den, add on
> another room, and replace all the appliances, lift it off its
> foundation, and move it 100 miles to a new site, I still bought it from
> American Home builders.

You're moving the goalposts. As I said, most devices can't play the
files you get from the iTMS _directly_. Yes, you can transcode them or
whatever but you'd be better off just buying the CD from $LOCAL_SHOP and
encoding it yourself.

Jim
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