"Xu" <xuxuxuxu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Richard, do you have any experience with both products? If so, which would
> you say is easier for a novice to use? Ghostsurf or TruImage?
>
> Any tutorials anywhere that you know of that explains or shows how to
> image a drive? Why does it just have to be a partition?
>

Symantec Ghost (not Ghostsurf) is the program.

I use both Ghost and True Image. Lately I have been using True Image more,
as I don't have to install it on a customers computer to make an image of
the customers Window partition. You can create an image by booting from the
CD. Ghost, on the other hand, requires that you actually install the program
on the computer you want to image.

I do this on every computer I service, as a safety net for the customer.
Then, when they bring the computer back to me, I can just restore the image
I have saved for them. They are back in business within 15-20 minutes.

In article <OyRd8sBEGHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>,
richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com says...
> I use both Ghost and True Image. Lately I have been using True Image more,
> as I don't have to install it on a customers computer to make an image of
> the customers Window partition. You can create an image by booting from the
> CD. Ghost, on the other hand, requires that you actually install the program
> on the computer you want to image.

I've never had to install Ghost on any computer I wanted to Image, it's
a boot diskette or CD and it makes a perfect image of a Drive or
Partition to another drive - nothing to install.

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Hi,

I still have real good luck with Ghost 2003. You can view a tutorial at
http://www.bay-wolf.com/ghostclone.htm You can often find it on ebay for
less than $20. Ghost does a lot more than just the option to clone things.



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Not with version 9 or later you don't!

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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> In article <OyRd8sBEGHA.3000@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>,
> richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com says...
>> I use both Ghost and True Image. Lately I have been using True Image
>> more,
>> as I don't have to install it on a customers computer to make an image of
>> the customers Window partition. You can create an image by booting from
>> the
>> CD. Ghost, on the other hand, requires that you actually install the
>> program
>> on the computer you want to image.
>
> I've never had to install Ghost on any computer I wanted to Image, it's
> a boot diskette or CD and it makes a perfect image of a Drive or
> Partition to another drive - nothing to install.
>
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In article <OLA6wLCEGHA.2436@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>,
richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com says...
> Not with version 9 or later you don't!

I'm confused, I've used Ghost since it was a Binary Research product,
before Symante Bought it - now I have the 2003 version, and it's always
been able to create a Boot disk or CD to use on any machine I wanted.

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On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:42:16 -0600, "Xu" <xuxuxuxu@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I have now had three products that I bought--including XP--give me an
>activation waring. XP is no trouble, but the other two companies cut me off
>and said I had to buy a new version of their software.

Wherever you have a choice, avoid software that uses Product
Activation or other schemes that increase the risk and fragility to
the you the user, to serve the interests of the vandor.

IOW, if you do have to "buy again", buy something else.

What were the other two software packages? If one was Norton
Whatever, it's a no-brainer; plenty of alternatives to "Norton" exist,
many of them free. YMMV if it's some crucial custom LOB app.



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The last two versions of Ghost are based on the last Powerquest DriveImage
version 7.0 software. This requires installation to XP for imaging. It
works within the XP environment for easing users afraid of non-XP
environments. Restoration is done from its boot/installation CD.

The Ghost 2003 version was the last version prior to the Ghost versions
based on DriveImage.
DriveImage 2002, version 6.0 works like 2003 in that nothing is installed to
the operating system. Some use it for XP imaging. This version is okay for
the standard PC, but not external drive image locations or imaging directly
to DVD.
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> In article <OLA6wLCEGHA.2436@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl>,
> richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com says...
> > Not with version 9 or later you don't!
>
> I'm confused, I've used Ghost since it was a Binary Research product,
> before Symante Bought it - now I have the 2003 version, and it's always
> been able to create a Boot disk or CD to use on any machine I wanted.
>
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I think much software activation looks at the drive serial number, and if
its not the one it had when it was put in in the first place, it does
something depending on what it is supposed to do.

I do think that not letting you at the very least have another set of
activations for y our money is a bit mean. I ran across this the other day
when bringing back up a friends machine with the Jaws screenreader on it.

I did all the installs, activated the screen reader, then I decided to
upgrade the ram for him, as I had a spare stick here.

Result, bloody jaws needed to be reactivated again. There are now no codes
left of course.

I personally feel that anything under 10 reinstalls is criminal given the
high cost of software and the unreliability of Windows and some hardware,
and the oversensitivity to changing hardware is just stupid.

Brian

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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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> No. Product activation is required whenever you
> reformat your hard drive and reinstall the software.
> There is a 30 day grace period before Windows XP
> actually requires activation.
>
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>
> "Xu" wrote:
>
> | I have now had three products that I bought--including XP--give me an
> | activation waring. XP is no trouble, but the other two companies cut me
> off
> | and said I had to buy a new version of their software.
> |
> | I am wondering, once I get everything set up the way I like it, can't I
> just
> | clone my HDD thereby avoiding activation in the future when I reformat?
>

> Snip
This is the clone/back-up tool I use:
'Casper XP' (http://www.fssdev.com/products/casperxp/)
It works completly _within_ Windows. It does require a second hard
drive to be installed in the machine.
Best,
Treeman


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I was wondering that as well. Being in the position I am, ie blind, I've
never had to reformat either in 98 or XP unless it has been a hardware fault
that has trashed the drive.

Brian

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"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
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> Xu wrote:
>> I have now had three products that I bought--including XP--give me an
>> activation waring. XP is no trouble, but the other two companies cut
>> me off and said I had to buy a new version of their software.
>>
>> I am wondering, once I get everything set up the way I like it, can't
>> I just clone my HDD thereby avoiding activation in the future when I
>> reformat?
>
> If you restore to the same exact hardware then you should avoid
> activation. The bigger question is why do you have to reformat so often?
>
> Kerry
>
>