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Old 01-05-2006, 02:37 AM
fastfinisher44
 
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Default Re: game runs only from f8 boot not msconfig

ahh, a worthy try. alas after starting verifier,and choosing "select all
windows drivers" finishing and rebooting, windows will not sucessfully
restart, and hard crashes back to reboot, over and over until i reboot (f8)
in safe mode, run verifier again then delete all changes. even after that
though there are problems with apps like IE. so i sys restore to an earlier
time to recover completeley from the attempt. Next?
--
My brain hurts....


"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> You can use the driver verifier to help figure out which one is causing the
> problem.
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244617
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A04E3658-30B7-4A8A-AEC8-71551DA0BBC6@microsoft.com...
> > my star wars galactic battlegrounds game hangs and crashes after 2 mins or
> > less consistantly. in normal start up or in safe boot using ms config. but
> > runs fine when booted in safe mode from an f8 restart. ms says its a
> > driver
> > prob, but doesnt say which one. but i like this game........help!
> > --
> > My brain hurts....

>
>
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:37 AM
David Candy
 
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Default Re: game runs only from f8 boot not msconfig


This is good news. You now have a crash dump file recording the problem.
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"fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:391AE672-42D8-411D-B11C-506C68E6A38E@microsoft.com...
> ahh, a worthy try. alas after starting verifier,and choosing "select all
> windows drivers" finishing and rebooting, windows will not sucessfully
> restart, and hard crashes back to reboot, over and over until i reboot (f8)
> in safe mode, run verifier again then delete all changes. even after that
> though there are problems with apps like IE. so i sys restore to an earlier
> time to recover completeley from the attempt. Next?
> --
> My brain hurts....
>
>
> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> You can use the driver verifier to help figure out which one is causing the
>> problem.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244617
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:A04E3658-30B7-4A8A-AEC8-71551DA0BBC6@microsoft.com...
>> > my star wars galactic battlegrounds game hangs and crashes after 2 mins or
>> > less consistantly. in normal start up or in safe boot using ms config. but
>> > runs fine when booted in safe mode from an f8 restart. ms says its a
>> > driver
>> > prob, but doesnt say which one. but i like this game........help!
>> > --
>> > My brain hurts....

>>
>>
>>

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:37 AM
fastfinisher44
 
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Default Re: game runs only from f8 boot not msconfig

well, i have a crash dump file that recorded THAT problem... i wonder if the
failed verifier run problem is the same as the swgb prob though. and how do i
use this crash dump(b) file to my advantage?
--
My brain hurts....


"David Candy" wrote:

>
> This is good news. You now have a crash dump file recording the problem.
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Goodbye Web Diary
> http://margokingston.typepad.com/har....html#comments
> =================================================
> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:391AE672-42D8-411D-B11C-506C68E6A38E@microsoft.com...
> > ahh, a worthy try. alas after starting verifier,and choosing "select all
> > windows drivers" finishing and rebooting, windows will not sucessfully
> > restart, and hard crashes back to reboot, over and over until i reboot (f8)
> > in safe mode, run verifier again then delete all changes. even after that
> > though there are problems with apps like IE. so i sys restore to an earlier
> > time to recover completeley from the attempt. Next?
> > --
> > My brain hurts....
> >
> >
> > "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> You can use the driver verifier to help figure out which one is causing the
> >> problem.
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244617
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best of Luck,
> >>
> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> >> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >>
> >> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:A04E3658-30B7-4A8A-AEC8-71551DA0BBC6@microsoft.com...
> >> > my star wars galactic battlegrounds game hangs and crashes after 2 mins or
> >> > less consistantly. in normal start up or in safe boot using ms config. but
> >> > runs fine when booted in safe mode from an f8 restart. ms says its a
> >> > driver
> >> > prob, but doesnt say which one. but i like this game........help!
> >> > --
> >> > My brain hurts....
> >>
> >>
> >>

>

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:37 AM
Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
 
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Default Re: game runs only from f8 boot not msconfig

Send it to me at rick@mvps.org, use the subject line "per req" to get past
the filters.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7DCC97AC-5029-4604-95F9-781B0BCFF185@microsoft.com...
> well, i have a crash dump file that recorded THAT problem... i wonder if
> the
> failed verifier run problem is the same as the swgb prob though. and how
> do i
> use this crash dump(b) file to my advantage?
> --
> My brain hurts....
>
>
> "David Candy" wrote:
>
>>
>> This is good news. You now have a crash dump file recording the problem.
>> --
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Goodbye Web Diary
>> http://margokingston.typepad.com/har....html#comments
>> =================================================
>> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:391AE672-42D8-411D-B11C-506C68E6A38E@microsoft.com...
>> > ahh, a worthy try. alas after starting verifier,and choosing "select
>> > all
>> > windows drivers" finishing and rebooting, windows will not sucessfully
>> > restart, and hard crashes back to reboot, over and over until i reboot
>> > (f8)
>> > in safe mode, run verifier again then delete all changes. even after
>> > that
>> > though there are problems with apps like IE. so i sys restore to an
>> > earlier
>> > time to recover completeley from the attempt. Next?
>> > --
>> > My brain hurts....
>> >
>> >
>> > "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> You can use the driver verifier to help figure out which one is
>> >> causing the
>> >> problem.
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244617
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best of Luck,
>> >>
>> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> >> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> >> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> >>
>> >> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:A04E3658-30B7-4A8A-AEC8-71551DA0BBC6@microsoft.com...
>> >> > my star wars galactic battlegrounds game hangs and crashes after 2
>> >> > mins or
>> >> > less consistantly. in normal start up or in safe boot using ms
>> >> > config. but
>> >> > runs fine when booted in safe mode from an f8 restart. ms says its a
>> >> > driver
>> >> > prob, but doesnt say which one. but i like this game........help!
>> >> > --
>> >> > My brain hurts....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>



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Old 01-05-2006, 02:37 AM
fastfinisher44
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: game runs only from f8 boot not msconfig

ah, you obviously think from my intelligent banter that i have any clue as to
what i'm doing. this is not the case. Pray tell, where is the alleged "crash
dump file" located?--
My brain hurts....


"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:

> Send it to me at rick@mvps.org, use the subject line "per req" to get past
> the filters.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7DCC97AC-5029-4604-95F9-781B0BCFF185@microsoft.com...
> > well, i have a crash dump file that recorded THAT problem... i wonder if
> > the
> > failed verifier run problem is the same as the swgb prob though. and how
> > do i
> > use this crash dump(b) file to my advantage?
> > --
> > My brain hurts....
> >
> >
> > "David Candy" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> This is good news. You now have a crash dump file recording the problem.
> >> --
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Goodbye Web Diary
> >> http://margokingston.typepad.com/har....html#comments
> >> =================================================
> >> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:391AE672-42D8-411D-B11C-506C68E6A38E@microsoft.com...
> >> > ahh, a worthy try. alas after starting verifier,and choosing "select
> >> > all
> >> > windows drivers" finishing and rebooting, windows will not sucessfully
> >> > restart, and hard crashes back to reboot, over and over until i reboot
> >> > (f8)
> >> > in safe mode, run verifier again then delete all changes. even after
> >> > that
> >> > though there are problems with apps like IE. so i sys restore to an
> >> > earlier
> >> > time to recover completeley from the attempt. Next?
> >> > --
> >> > My brain hurts....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> You can use the driver verifier to help figure out which one is
> >> >> causing the
> >> >> problem.
> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244617
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Best of Luck,
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> >> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> >> >> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >> >>
> >> >> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> message
> >> >> news:A04E3658-30B7-4A8A-AEC8-71551DA0BBC6@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > my star wars galactic battlegrounds game hangs and crashes after 2
> >> >> > mins or
> >> >> > less consistantly. in normal start up or in safe boot using ms
> >> >> > config. but
> >> >> > runs fine when booted in safe mode from an f8 restart. ms says its a
> >> >> > driver
> >> >> > prob, but doesnt say which one. but i like this game........help!
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > My brain hurts....
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:37 AM
David Candy
 
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Default Re: game runs only from f8 boot not msconfig

c:\windows\minidump

Type in Help

Small Memory Dump

for an overview.

Windows has to trust drivers for normal running else everything would be slow. If you turn verifier on windows starts monitoring the drivers which means it can better identify the faulty one. Of course it may be another faulty driver where the fault is not hit in normal operation, in which case fix that problem and use verifier again.
--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Goodbye Web Diary
http://margokingston.typepad.com/har....html#comments
=================================================
"fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4288456D-57DD-46A0-BFAA-38667F3A0052@microsoft.com...
> ah, you obviously think from my intelligent banter that i have any clue as to
> what i'm doing. this is not the case. Pray tell, where is the alleged "crash
> dump file" located?--
> My brain hurts....
>
>
> "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Send it to me at rick@mvps.org, use the subject line "per req" to get past
>> the filters.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7DCC97AC-5029-4604-95F9-781B0BCFF185@microsoft.com...
>> > well, i have a crash dump file that recorded THAT problem... i wonder if
>> > the
>> > failed verifier run problem is the same as the swgb prob though. and how
>> > do i
>> > use this crash dump(b) file to my advantage?
>> > --
>> > My brain hurts....
>> >
>> >
>> > "David Candy" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> This is good news. You now have a crash dump file recording the problem.
>> >> --
>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Goodbye Web Diary
>> >> http://margokingston.typepad.com/har....html#comments
>> >> =================================================
>> >> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message news:391AE672-42D8-411D-B11C-506C68E6A38E@microsoft.com...
>> >> > ahh, a worthy try. alas after starting verifier,and choosing "select
>> >> > all
>> >> > windows drivers" finishing and rebooting, windows will not sucessfully
>> >> > restart, and hard crashes back to reboot, over and over until i reboot
>> >> > (f8)
>> >> > in safe mode, run verifier again then delete all changes. even after
>> >> > that
>> >> > though there are problems with apps like IE. so i sys restore to an
>> >> > earlier
>> >> > time to recover completeley from the attempt. Next?
>> >> > --
>> >> > My brain hurts....
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You can use the driver verifier to help figure out which one is
>> >> >> causing the
>> >> >> problem.
>> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244617
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Best of Luck,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> >> >> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
>> >> >> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> news:A04E3658-30B7-4A8A-AEC8-71551DA0BBC6@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > my star wars galactic battlegrounds game hangs and crashes after 2
>> >> >> > mins or
>> >> >> > less consistantly. in normal start up or in safe boot using ms
>> >> >> > config. but
>> >> >> > runs fine when booted in safe mode from an f8 restart. ms says its a
>> >> >> > driver
>> >> >> > prob, but doesnt say which one. but i like this game........help!
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > My brain hurts....
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>

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Old 01-05-2006, 02:39 AM
fastfinisher44
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: game runs only from f8 boot not msconfig

yea! i disabled my nvidia display driver and the game now appears to run
properly. thanks so much for all your help!
--
My brain hurts....


"David Candy" wrote:

> c:\windows\minidump
>
> Type in Help
>
> Small Memory Dump
>
> for an overview.
>
> Windows has to trust drivers for normal running else everything would be slow. If you turn verifier on windows starts monitoring the drivers which means it can better identify the faulty one. Of course it may be another faulty driver where the fault is not hit in normal operation, in which case fix that problem and use verifier again.
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Goodbye Web Diary
> http://margokingston.typepad.com/har....html#comments
> =================================================
> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4288456D-57DD-46A0-BFAA-38667F3A0052@microsoft.com...
> > ah, you obviously think from my intelligent banter that i have any clue as to
> > what i'm doing. this is not the case. Pray tell, where is the alleged "crash
> > dump file" located?--
> > My brain hurts....
> >
> >
> > "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:
> >
> >> Send it to me at rick@mvps.org, use the subject line "per req" to get past
> >> the filters.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best of Luck,
> >>
> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> >> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >>
> >> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:7DCC97AC-5029-4604-95F9-781B0BCFF185@microsoft.com...
> >> > well, i have a crash dump file that recorded THAT problem... i wonder if
> >> > the
> >> > failed verifier run problem is the same as the swgb prob though. and how
> >> > do i
> >> > use this crash dump(b) file to my advantage?
> >> > --
> >> > My brain hurts....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "David Candy" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> This is good news. You now have a crash dump file recording the problem.
> >> >> --
> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> Goodbye Web Diary
> >> >> http://margokingston.typepad.com/har....html#comments
> >> >> =================================================
> >> >> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> message news:391AE672-42D8-411D-B11C-506C68E6A38E@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > ahh, a worthy try. alas after starting verifier,and choosing "select
> >> >> > all
> >> >> > windows drivers" finishing and rebooting, windows will not sucessfully
> >> >> > restart, and hard crashes back to reboot, over and over until i reboot
> >> >> > (f8)
> >> >> > in safe mode, run verifier again then delete all changes. even after
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > though there are problems with apps like IE. so i sys restore to an
> >> >> > earlier
> >> >> > time to recover completeley from the attempt. Next?
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > My brain hurts....
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You can use the driver verifier to help figure out which one is
> >> >> >> causing the
> >> >> >> problem.
> >> >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=244617
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Best of Luck,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> >> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> >> >> Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
> >> >> >> www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "fastfinisher44" <fastfinisher44@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:A04E3658-30B7-4A8A-AEC8-71551DA0BBC6@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > my star wars galactic battlegrounds game hangs and crashes after 2
> >> >> >> > mins or
> >> >> >> > less consistantly. in normal start up or in safe boot using ms
> >> >> >> > config. but
> >> >> >> > runs fine when booted in safe mode from an f8 restart. ms says its a
> >> >> >> > driver
> >> >> >> > prob, but doesnt say which one. but i like this game........help!
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > My brain hurts....
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>

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